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« Reply #1035 on: March 11, 2006, 03:11:00 PM »
This is stupid. I just talked to him. He is doing good. He has goal set and is moving towards them. He will post when ready. One of his goals is to be with his parents. They are talking and working towards it. Of course Alex has things he has to deal with right now, and always will it is called life. We all do. So saying things about his parents and aunts I don't believe is helping you at all. He does no us and if he doesn't agree he still realizes that we do love him will always be here for him no matter what. Sorry you didn't have that with your family.

He mentioned no abuse to me. When he is ready he will post if what he says by then changes well then it does but as of now he said there was no abuse. Which should be a good thing. But not on this site! I am done for now.

Alex, if you do read this. I love you and will always be here you can call anytime. I know I told you that on the phone a few hours ago. Just so you remember! Keep up the great work on moving forward you can do anything once you set your mind to it.

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« Reply #1036 on: March 11, 2006, 03:14:00 PM »
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"Eudora, what part offended you? What part have you contrubuted to helping the young man? Other than your past experiences.  If you can't bring anything to the table, then get off.  This is where your forum is screwed up.  A narrow minded mentality. "


I SECONED THIS. Just a way to try to get back at her parents maybe? Who knows.
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« Reply #1037 on: March 11, 2006, 03:28:00 PM »
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On 2006-03-11 11:46:00, Anonymous wrote:

"Eudora, what part offended you? What part have you contrubuted to helping the young man? Other than your past experiences.  If you can't bring anything to the table, then get off.  This is where your forum is screwed up.  A narrow minded mentality. "


She gave you all a forum to discuss all this stuff, if it weren't for her you wouldn't be here. So CIM and A.S. are you grateful to those who provided you with information here or not? Didn't Eudora help you in this way? You say -if you didn't bring anything to the table, then get off- she owns the table you are eating on, get a clue!
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« Reply #1038 on: March 11, 2006, 03:29:00 PM »
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On 2006-03-11 11:46:00, Anonymous wrote:


"Eudora, what part offended you? What part have you contrubuted to helping the young man? Other than your past experiences.  If you can't bring anything to the table, then get off.  This is where your forum is screwed up.  A narrow minded mentality. "




I SECONED THIS. Just a way to try to get back at her parents maybe? Who knows. "


Did anyone force you to come here? This site mostly attracts program survivors but then there's the small group of parents who come here DAY AFTER DAY and insist how much they hate this forum. IF you don't like it leave, what is so hard to figure out about this?????????
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« Reply #1039 on: March 11, 2006, 03:31:00 PM »
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" This is stupid. I just talked to him. He is doing good. He has goal set and is moving towards them. He will post when ready. One of his goals is to be with his parents. They are talking and working towards it. Of course Alex has things he has to deal with right now, and always will it is called life. We all do. So saying things about his parents and aunts I don't believe is helping you at all. He does no us and if he doesn't agree he still realizes that we do love him will always be here for him no matter what. Sorry you didn't have that with your family.



He mentioned no abuse to me. When he is ready he will post if what he says by then changes well then it does but as of now he said there was no abuse. Which should be a good thing. But not on this site! I am done for now.



Alex, if you do read this. I love you and will always be here you can call anytime. I know I told you that on the phone a few hours ago. Just so you remember! Keep up the great work on moving forward you can do anything once you set your mind to it.



over and out,

THE FUN COP"


Why are you still obsessed with this forum? That kid should move on with his life and not worry about posting on this forum. Nobody here needs to hear from him, he's out, thats good. Now he needs to get on with his life. Why bring him into your web of internet hate?
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« Reply #1040 on: March 11, 2006, 06:27:00 PM »
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On 2006-03-11 11:46:00, Anonymous wrote:


"Eudora, what part offended you? What part have you contrubuted to helping the young man? Other than your past experiences.  If you can't bring anything to the table, then get off.  This is where your forum is screwed up.  A narrow minded mentality. "




She gave you all a forum to discuss all this stuff, if it weren't for her you wouldn't be here. So CIM and A.S. are you grateful to those who provided you with information here or not? Didn't Eudora help you in this way? You say -if you didn't bring anything to the table, then get off- she owns the table you are eating on, get a clue!"


I do understand that she runs this site.  Never said any different.  Yes, the information here was helpful in some ways and detrimental in others.  I am here to defend things that have been said about this family.  Awful things that had no business being said here.  Having done that I will make CCM girl happy and be done with it.  There is nothing to be accomplished here by me anymore.
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« Reply #1041 on: March 12, 2006, 12:48:00 PM »
You all need to shut the fuck up. According to his girlfriend, Alex is being brought back to Michigan.

There.
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« Reply #1042 on: March 12, 2006, 03:55:00 PM »
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"You all need to shut the fuck up. According to his girlfriend, Alex is being brought back to Michigan.



There. "



Dah he is already here
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« Reply #1043 on: March 12, 2006, 05:50:00 PM »
What makes you think anything offended me? Just making a point. I think the most cruel thing these programs do is to turn families against one another; to supercede normal, vital familial love and acceptance w/ fidelity to the sacred doctrine. Doesn't matter if that mythology is more stepcraft or more newage spirit name stuff. Hell, I wouldn't be terribly surprised to see one of these groups develop around something really, really silly like snow boarding as a path to spiritual enlightenment.

This entire project of mine, forums, mainstream media contact, lists, protests, books, art, music, concerts and every other damned thing I ever have or will do in regard to the Program are all themed on the same rediculously simple idea.

Every single high demand cult ever in all of history depends on controlling communications. They cut the inductee off from the world, in many ways even from self (no time to reflect, always on eggshells, etc.) they're cut off from friends and family while the Program devout go about the insidiously sick game of convincing themselves and everyone they contact that the kid who's locked up is a horrible, dangerous person who's not to be fully trusted EVER, but most especially if they diviate from program Dogma in word or deed or even subtle jestures like hairstyle, fashion or taste in music.

I seek to undermine that control and let the chips fall where they may. That's the whole thing. RAMPANT talking out in group is the key to undoing the whole mindfuck.

Now, I would LOVE to hear from Alex, either privately or publicly. But I don't presume any claim to compel him or you or anyone to speak to me at me or about me or not. It's entirely up to him if and how he wants to engage here.

I would imagine the kid's got a whole lot to think about these days. I know I did when I was in similar circumstance. I didn't even KNOW what I thought, I really had to take a good long while and sort myself out. Maybe he's a good deal smarter and more adept than I was. I sure can't say. But I certainly respect the prerogative of the individual to do and say as they see fit.

I do have to throw just one more brick bat, though. Aunt Shelly said " I am here to defend things that have been said about this family. "

Bwoohahahahaha!!! OMFG! Do you have any idea how completely hypocritical a statement that is? My God, woman! Go back and look at some of the fucked up things you and/or your family said about these nice people early on in this thread. And let's assume that it really was just the sibs and cousins spouting off. In what kind of environment does a kid get the idea that that's a proper, decent way to treat their cousin? Fuck! Talk about a kick em while they're down mentality.

You people have NO room to talk about trashing someone's character or family. But then, that's what the entire troubled parent industry is all about; scapegoating kids who are too "disordered" to be compliant little sychophants, eager to support your illusions.

Of course, it doesn't work so good when everybody's got access to all the info and plenty of time to think and check your stories.
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« Reply #1044 on: March 12, 2006, 10:54:00 PM »
You know, Alex is probably more forgiving of his parents than I would have been if this had been done to me.  However, I know if *I* was a minor and had just gotten out of being kidnapped to a place full of scary cult people, and I still had a few months where I theoretically could be sent back---or a court date where I maybe could get court-ordered back---I would sure tell my parents as much of what they wanted to hear as I could stomach.

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« Reply #1045 on: March 12, 2006, 11:00:00 PM »
That doesn't mean it's what Alex is doing--like I say, I'm constantly amazed at the capacity of kids to forgive their parents.  I'm not trying to say Alex is just telling his parents what they want to hear.  I'm just saying that other kids back from programs have been known to be so scared that somebody might be able to send them back as to be very inclined to tell anyone in any position of authority exactly what they want to hear, and to do so for years.

Whichever, it's good that he's home and doing well.

Julie
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« Reply #1046 on: March 13, 2006, 07:11:00 AM »
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Go back and look at some of the fucked up things you and/or your family said about these nice people early on in this thread. And let's assume that it really was just the sibs and cousins spouting off. In what kind of environment does a kid get the idea that that's a proper, decent way to treat their cousin? Fuck! Talk about a kick em while they're down mentality.


You really make yourself look stupid. You don't know these people you only know they wouldn't send there kid into a WWASPS program. Which makes you like them! They are liars, losers, FUCKED UP people. Half of the shit they put in early in thread where major lies but lets over look that. Lets only look at what the family of Alex said. Talk about closed minded.
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« Reply #1047 on: March 13, 2006, 10:55:00 AM »
Boy, you obviously hate Ashley and her parents very much.  You don't look like a very unbiased source of information about them.  

You did point out that they *didn't* send their kid to WWASPS.  That is one positive data point.

Their postings online have seemed reasonable and moderately educated.  Ashley and her parents seem to get along with each other and seem supportive of each other.

I think for anything else about them, I'll reserve judgment.  Especially since it doesn't really matter to anybody what I think of them one way or the other.

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« Reply #1048 on: March 13, 2006, 01:12:00 PM »
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Go back and look at some of the fucked up things you and/or your family said about these nice people early on in this thread. And let's assume that it really was just the sibs and cousins spouting off. In what kind of environment does a kid get the idea that that's a proper, decent way to treat their cousin? Fuck! Talk about a kick em while they're down mentality.




You really make yourself look stupid. You don't know these people you only know they wouldn't send there kid into a WWASPS program. Which makes you like them! They are liars, losers, FUCKED UP people. Half of the shit they put in early in thread where major lies but lets over look that. Lets only look at what the family of Alex said. Talk about closed minded."


I don't know these people and I don't know you, except what I can gather based on what you've all written and done. Are you trying to tell me that all those nasty lies and slander didn't come from you and yours? If you like, I could clear this up right quick and just tie all those anon posts from your ISP accounts to your username. Would that help?

Have you considered that system of holy lies and pious frauds that has raged and triumphed for 1500 years.
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« Reply #1049 on: March 13, 2006, 01:43:00 PM »
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I don't know these people and I don't know you, except what I can gather based on what you've all written and done. Are you trying to tell me that all those nasty lies and slander didn't come from you and yours? If you like, I could clear this up right quick and just tie all those anon posts from your ISP accounts to your username. Would that help?


Don't know about her, but it would help me.  How 'bout it?  That certainly would clear things up and prove you're telling the truth, correct?
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