On 2005-07-20 15:50:00, Anonymous wrote:
"First, I must apologize about the Lexi remark and getting over being molested. I'm just frustrated at the level of maturity on some of these postings.
I know, it's difficult dealing w/ independent minded people when you're so used to the stark black-n-white world of program dogma. Hang in there, you'll get used to it.
Just because Lexi was molested, that doesn't give her the right to screw up her life.
Just because Lexi's parents allowed her to be molested doesn't give them the right to determine whether or not she's screwing up her life. Sadly, there are no do-overs. It's not only wrong, but patently impossible to try to turn your young adult kid back into a toddler just so you can have another shot at raising them "right".
Hopefully, she will get the help she needs to believe in herself again.
Yeah, and hopefully she'll be able to undo the program damage too.
Whatever she was doing, her parents were desperate.
Exactly! She may very well have been handling things admirably and competently. It's her
parents who lost their grip.
That doesn't mean they were pawning her off for someone else to parent.
That's exactly what it means.
You people have no idea what these parents have tried.
You have no idea who you're talking to. Got grandkids yet?
You people think there should be no consequences at all for bad behavior.
Moot point. There are consequences, good and bad, for all kinds of behavior. No getting around that. You people seem to think it's perfectly sane and reasonable to contrive bad consequences where God forgot to provide them.
You think staying up all night waiting for your drunk, loaded, meth-infested kid to come home is part of parenting?
Sometimes it is. Oh, did you not read the fine print when you bought your kid? What were you thinking! No guarantees. Sometimes kids screw up.
Where is the kid's responsibility?
WTF are you talking about? The kid is the one puking, head throbbing, dealing w/ whatever damned fool think he did the night before. You're just a bystander. You could try to be helpful. But no, you're too busy feeling sorry for yourself, thinking your kid owes you something, thinking about what
you deserve. You're pathetic!
Oh, that's right, you don't think there should be any because you're kids.
To you? No. You made the choice to bring a child into this world. The kid had no choice in the matter. One way in which the Program has actually helped me is that it taught me to never, ever, in any way, subltle or overt, betray my kids faith as was done to me. I'm thankful for every little kindness and proud of every accomplishment my kids make. My kids will never have to lay awake at night wondering if I'm going to send them off to be brainwashed.
What a joke. Use language people understand because I thought you were complimenting me when you called me a cunt. I'm sure you'll all be terrific parents to your kids because obviously you have all the answers. You know more than every parent, and everyone who disagrees with you is a moron, cunt, etc. Wow. You must be so proud. "
I know a good deal more than you do about what it's like to be on the receiving end of your brand of benevolence. Your kid does too. Unfortunately, you've been instructed to disregard anything he or she may say that challenges program dogma. And you're very obedient. So they'll just have to wait to get free and find what they need from someone else. So sad.
Totalitarianism is like a specter which drinks the blood of the living and so achieves reality, while the victims go on existing as a mass of living corpses.
http://www.whitecloud.com/fight_vs_totalitarianism.htm' target='_new'>Karl Jaspers, The Fight Against Totalitarianism (1963)
