ISAC SUED BY WWASP/BOB LITCHFIELD

[Anonymous]

On 2005-03-23 13:44:00, Anonymous wrote:

"Maybe ask someone at ISAC, or of course we could just ask Sue."

We could ask your Mother :lol:

[Anonymous]

On 2005-03-23 14:13:00, Anonymous wrote:

"

On 2005-03-23 13:44:00, Anonymous wrote:


"Maybe ask someone at ISAC, or of course we could just ask Sue."

We could ask your Mother :lol: "

LMAO!

[Anonymous]

Ok, I'm not familiar with where Whitemore is.  That post in the beginning says Whitemore is suing ISAC.  So I'm guessing the suit is filed wherever Whitemore is, or wherever its parent company is.  Not sure.  But yes, a Complaint would be a matter of public record.  If it is in federal court, you can look for it online at PACER, but it costs $.  I'm sure we'll be seeing a copy of it online sometime soon, since a lot of people are interested.  

But seriously, a case against ISAC?  All they do is put up documents.  All of their statements are signed and sworn to be true.  And as long as ISAC believes that what they have put up is true, they'll be fine.  These lawsuits are all about intimidation, but get a jury involved and no one is ruling for the big-ass money-making corporations accused of abusing children.  I honestly don't even think a case against ISAC could make it that far.  In that Sue Scheff case, they accused her of bad-mouthing WWASPS because she was getting $ from competitor facilities.  This is totally different, and I don't think it would even make it into a courtroom.  

I could be wrong, but that's just my opinion.

On 2005-03-23 10:44:00, Erinys wrote:

"Thanks, Anon above!  I considered adding some similar info but thought it would be a bore. Do you have more legal knowledge to share?



Maybe I've missed something but ...

Has there actually been a suit filed by WWASPS against ISAC?  Or is it just a rumor?  The 1st post gave a case #, but not where the suit was filed.



Would  the documents filing the suit be public record?  That is would a private citizen be able to review the allegations?

What damages or injury is WWASPS claiming?

If anyone knows please answer.

The time appears to me to have come when it is the duty of all to make their dissent from religion known.
--John Stuart Mill

"

[Erinys]

On 2005-03-24 12:07:00, Anonymous wrote:

"Ok, I'm not familiar with where Whitemore is.  That post in the beginning says Whitemore is suing ISAC.  So I'm guessing the suit is filed wherever Whitemore is, or wherever its parent company is.

On 2005-03-23 10:44:00, Erinys wrote:


Thanks again!  I asked a paralegal aquaintance of mine, and she said pretty much the same.  Though she indicated that the suit would be filed in the jurisdiction where the offense occured.

As I understand it, the suit is  Bob Litchfield/WWASPS (Worldwide Association of Specialty Schools) versus ISAC. Not the Whitmore versus ISAC.

ISAC is out of Virginia, so if my paralegal pal is correct the suit would be filed there.  (If Litchfield filed in his jurisdicton, which would be St. George Utah.)

Virginia has online access to public court records. I'll be busy!

 ::read::

Standby for more legalese!

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-- John Muir

[ This Message was edited by: Erinys on 2005-03-24 16:39 ]

[Anonymous]

Can anyone sue ISAC?  I mean, they are full of "my opinions" and "Alleged", etc.,

Is WWASPS currently being sued by anyone?  If so, provide proof, please.

[Antigen]

On 2005-04-07 21:45:00, Anonymous wrote:

"Can anyone sue ISAC?  I mean, they are full of "my opinions" and "Alleged", etc.,



Is WWASPS currently being sued by anyone?  If so, provide proof, please.



"

Well, sure. Technically, almost anybody can sue almost anybody for anything or nothing. You know that already. I think what you're asking, though, is can anybody sue ISAC successfully for publishing opinions and allegations. The answer is probably not. Long as they're doing it right and stating opinions as opinions and facts as facts that damnable First Amendment protects them legally. Sorry!  :wave:

 

Marihuana influences Negroes to look at white people in the eye, step on white men's shadows and look at a white woman twice.



--Hearst newspapers nationwide, 1934

[Dr Fucktard]

I want to sue ISAC, just for the hell of it.

[Anonymous]

It seems foolish to me that WWASP once again will be exposing all of their dirty laundry in the court proceedings. More documentation of abuse for the public records.

Go Isac.  You have my permission to share my story.

I'll be a witness too. Just ask.

[Anonymous]

Lichfield v. ISAC, Shelby Earnshaw, William Earnshaw

5th Judicial District Court of Washington County, Utah

Case No. 050500 370

Complaint filed 2/28/05; 30 days to answer

Attorney representing Lichfield:
Fred R. Silvester, Esq. (3862)
Spencer Siebers, Esq. (8320)
1371 East 2100 South, Suite 200
Salt Lake City, Utah 84105
Tel: (801) 532-2266

Causes of Action:
1.   Defamation
2.   Invasion of Privacy
3.   Intentional Interference with Prospective Economic Advantage

Prayer:
1.   For special damages to his business relationships
2.   For the additional costs of rebutting the false information
3.   For general damages
4.   For injunctive relief
5.   For cost and attorney?s fees as allowed by law
6.   For punitive damages
7.   For such other and further relief as is just

Plaintiff demands jury trial on all issues triable to a jury


MOVED TO FEDERAL COURT (ATTEMPT TO MOVE):

U.S. District Court

District of Utah (Central)

CIVIL DOCKET FOR CASE #: 05-CV-254

Lichfield v. Intl Survivors Actio, et al

Filed: 03/24/05
Assigned to: Judge Tena Campbell
Jury demand: Both
Demand: $0,000
Nature of Suit: 320
Lead Docket: None
Jurisdiction: Diversity
Dkt # in 5th Dist, Wash Cnty : is 050500370
Cause: 28:1332 Diversity-Notice of Removal

ROBERT B. LICHFIELD               Fred R. Silvester, Mr.
     plaintiff                    EMAIL
                                  [COR LD NTC]
                                  Spencer C. Siebers
                                  JFAX 9,5322270
                                  [COR]
                                  SILVESTER & CONROY LC
                                  1371 E 2100 S STE 200
                                  SALT LAKE CITY, UT 84105
                                  (801)532-2266

   v.

INTERNATIONAL SURVIVORS ACTION
COMMITTEE, a Florida
Corporation
     defendant

SHELBY EARNSHAW, an individual    Michael L. Humiston
     defendant                    [COR LD NTC]
                                  23 W CENTER ST
                                  PO BOX 486
                                  HEBER CITY, UT 84032
                                  (435)654-1152

WILLIAM EARNSHAW, an              Michael L. Humiston
individual                        (See above)
     defendant                    [COR LD NTC]

[miseducated]

Erinys, could you put up the link to where VA has court papers online? Thanks!

[Anonymous]

On 2005-04-09 05:55:00, miseducated wrote:

"Erinys, could you put up the link to where VA has court papers online? Thanks!"

I don't think that will help you much in this instance.  The case is with the Utah courts.  As WWASP vs PURE demonstrated, since defamation (particularly if it is on the internet) takes place everywhere, the plaintiff can sue anywhere.  Obviously Bob Lichfield wants to sue in his own back yard.  Since Lichfield lives in Utah the alleged invasion of privacy must have taken place there too and the intentional interference with prospective economic advantage is, I assume, a follow-on from the alleged defamation.

In any case, if they were to move it to the state of the defendant then which defendant?  The Earnshaws live in Virginia but ISAC (technically) is in Florida.

[Erinys]

On 2005-04-09 05:55:00, miseducated wrote:

"Erinys, could you put up the link to where VA has court papers online? Thanks!"

OK, here's the links to VA courts:

Start here
http://www.courts.state.va.us/cc/circuit.htm

Good informative page on types of cases, civil,  criminal and chancery.  I think it would be  Farquier County Circuit Court

My next step took me here:

http://208.210.219.132/vacircuit/select ... Q:ulnfn1uq

Then here:
http://208.210.219.132/vacircuit/select ... Q:ulnfn1uq

Found nothing and abandoned the project.

The Anon above is probably correct. The case was filed in Utah.  I tried to search Utah cases but it's a lotta web slogging.

You know, if Mama Cass Elliot would have shared that damn sandwich
with Karen Carpenter, they would both still be alive today!!!!!!!

--chongo

[Anonymous]

Use your stories inflmate them, use you and hide?
Shelby seek psychological help, you must help yourself before you can help others.
 :wstupid:

[Anonymous]

im sick of this WWASP is so stupid they are suing Shelby for "interfearing" with their buiness pracitices by telling Boonville the about WWASP and how the operate. What is so funny Shelby did not do it at all!

I DID! I was the one who approached Boonville City officials originally and told them about WWASP! I have the proof too in the form of E-Mails even!

WWASP needs to examin itself before they go suing people esoexially the wrong person for somthing they didnt do!

[Anonymous]

Well if that is the case then kudo's to you for coming forward that still doesn't change the minds of most that Shelby needs to address her own problems, stop trying to ride on the coat tails of others, taking credit for work of others, and get help..  ISAC or Shelby are not all they are cracked up to be, as a matter of fact word is an audit due to their non profit and inaccountibility with any funds they get is going to happen.  Be careful!