Honestly, I'm not sure if I knew about that or not LOL. What I mean is that I had heard about it, didn't know whether to believe it or not and I can't recall if I'd ever seen anything convincing like a filing or something.
As far as the suit against me, I'd rather not discuss it too much. It's still a tempest in a teapot in the midst of a serious storm. That storm is a lot more interesting to me.
But you don't really assume that anyone who's critical of WWASP must be just one of Sue's puppets, do you? I mean, it flies in the face of a mountain of evidence. I'm pretty sure that when Karen Lile Bean (I think that's her name) made her report of the WWASP seminar, Sue was still working for WWASP, wasn't she? There's just so damned much.
And I don't assume that, just because Sue's got it in for you that you
must be an advocate of WWASP. That just wouldn't make sense, even if I weren't a target as well.
It's just so much more complicated than that.
Let me dredge up an old argument that I made back when the Carey Sucks club was the dominant force in these forums. Hitler hated Stalin, Stalin hated Hitler and neither one was redeemed by it. WWASP hates PURE and PURE hates WWASP. That still doesn't tell us anything useful about either organization.
"What are ya' gonna believe, your eyes or what I tell ya'?"
I knew to look a little closer because it all seems so familiar. I spent a couple of hours in the intake room at LIFE listening to a couple of teenagers try and convince me that LIFE was just completely different from Straight, Inc. I didn't buy it then and I don't buy it now when anybody tries to play the same old song and dance by me again.
But
that doesn't mean they're lying! Are you starting to understand that?
Check out this new forum:
http://fornits.com/wwf/viewforum.php?forum=35&282Now, I can't say with certainty that Sue is sending kids to Whitmore. I
think it's true, but that's not the same as
knowing it, ya' know?
If you read what those kids have to say and maybe look over their website (if they haven't made it private by now) you can learn a whole lot.
They talk about kids going into town relatively soon after starting at the Whitmore. That would
never happen in a WWASP program. They're in Utah, not out of country (small distinction in many ways, I know, but still a distinction) They don't seem to be affiliated in any way w/ Resource Realizations. In fact I don't even think they do parent support groups.
I can see where, to someone who hadn't seen it happen before, this would look like a great alternative to WWASP.
But I have seen it before. So when some of these kids describe violence and threats of voiolence and being told to lie to protect the program operators, I can't swear it's true any more than I can swear that Sue is sending kids there. But, based on my experience, it seems perfectly plausible. In fact, based on my experience and my research, it seems a whole lot more plausible than the idea that there's some good, effective, safe and secure facility somewhere that can change a kid's behavior and attitude to the parents' likeing against the kid's will w/o breaking them.
But not everyone has my experience, and I wouldn't wish it on everybody. So it also seems perfectly reasonable that Sue believes she's the good guy and Montel's staff believe it too and so does David Pollack.
People are never any more convincing than when they're tryig to convince themselves.
Fear is the parent of cruelty, therefore it is no wonder if religion and cruelty have gone hand-in-hand.
--Bertrand Russell, British philosopher, educator, mathemetician, and social critic
