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Offline Antigen

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« Reply #15 on: September 11, 2004, 11:37:00 PM »
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On 2004-09-11 11:12:00, BuzzKill wrote:

I know they are victims of group think - but it still seems strange this doesn't wake more of them up. How effective IS this brain washing anyway? Its really kinda scary.


I will not argue with you on that one. I only hope that, one day, you and your kid will be able to look back on this and laugh. I know he will, if sardonically.

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« Reply #16 on: September 11, 2004, 11:37:00 PM »
***Whats amazing to me is the Programmed parents.
Wouldn't you think this would wake more of them Up?

You're expecting a miracle. Most program parents do not want their kid home. They are enjoying the peace and quiet. They feel victimized by the media, as much as they felt victimized by their teen.
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« Reply #17 on: September 12, 2004, 03:09:00 AM »
http://www.strugglingteens.com/archives ... /np01.html

What's the story here?  They were one of the programs ousted.
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« Reply #18 on: September 12, 2004, 11:00:00 AM »
After a surprise inspection Friday of the three treatment centers for teenagers with behavior and drug-related problems, the Mexican immigration agency reported that four children at Casa by the Sea showed signs of physical and emotional mistreatment, according to the San Diego Union-Tribune.

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Posted on Sun, Sep. 12, 2004
   
 
 


Mexico closes schools, sends hundreds of teens back to U.S.

SOUTH BAY PARENTS SURPRISED BY ALLEGATIONS OF ABUSE


MEXICO CITY (AP) - Parents picked up hundreds of U.S. teenagers Saturday from northern Mexico after state and federal authorities closed down three schools for troubled youths, according to a U.S. consular official.

About 538 teenagers -- the vast majority U.S. citizens -- were being returned home after authorities shut down Casa by the Sea in Ensenada, on the Pacific coast about 60 miles south of San Diego, said Liza Davis, public affairs officer with the U.S. Consulate in Tijuana.

About 50 teenagers from two other facilities -- Casa de la Esperanza in Ensenada and Genesis in Rosarito, about 15 miles south of the U.S. border -- already had left Mexico on Saturday after the schools were closed, Davis said.

After a surprise inspection Friday of the three treatment centers for teenagers with behavior and drug-related problems, the Mexican immigration agency reported that four children at Casa by the Sea showed signs of physical and emotional mistreatment, according to the San Diego Union-Tribune.

``At this point we don't have any substantiated cases of abuse,'' Davis said.

Casa by the Sea is operated by the Utah-based World Wide Association of Specialty Programs and Schools and has been the subject of abuse allegations in the past.

``We're really at a loss right now to understand why the government would take such an irresponsible action,'' said association president Ken Kay. *He accused Mexican authorities of shutting down Casa by the Sea without first attempting to verify any abuse complaints.*

Other schools affiliated with Kay's group have run into problems. A school in Costa Rica eventually closed last year after visits by the Costa Rican child welfare agency. Previously, two other schools -- in the Czech Republic and Cancun, Mexico -- suddenly closed after they became the subjects of investigations.

Several local families whose children were sent to Casa by the Sea said they were surprised to hear the school had closed, since they and their children had had a positive experience with the program.

Juana and Alfonso Guevara of Sunnyvale, who sent their daughter to Casa by the Sea in 2002 after she threatened suicide, said they never heard any claims of mistreatment.

``When we put her into the facility we got a tour,'' Juana Guevara said. ``Of course you can't know everything that goes on. It appeared clean and neat. The children appeared to be fine.''

Chelsey Mahan, 18, of Saratoga, returned from Casa by the Sea less than a month ago after a *2 1/2-year stay.* It was a tough but good experience, she said.

``It was a program that helped us so much,'' Mahan said of her fellow students. ``I've never experienced any kind of abuse at all. The only thing I can think of is people would say that if they wanted to come home.''
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« Reply #19 on: September 12, 2004, 12:25:00 PM »
"First if the issue was terrorist threat dont you think that the Mexican Goverment would take credit for temorarly relocting the kids and state the was the reason why they was related to make themselves look even better in the mainstream public."

Surprise!  The Mexican Government DID transport the remainder of the kids from Casa by the Sea last night to San Diego.
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« Reply #20 on: September 12, 2004, 12:38:00 PM »
Yes, we know.
WHY is the question.
Mx says because of abuse and neglect. One form of terrorism.
You say the other - Arabs, I suppose.

I think your an idiot.
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« Reply #21 on: September 12, 2004, 12:44:00 PM »
//I am not surprised that ISAC is taking credit for this! OMG! //

ISAC has only made a report on what is happening.
There has been no crowing about "credit" by anyone.
You sound a lot like Carey, with your "OMG" and your jumping to unwarranted conclusions.

I think you are also an idiot.
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« Reply #22 on: September 12, 2004, 03:32:00 PM »
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Most program parents do not want their kid home. They are enjoying the peace and quiet.


The kids are being held at the Town and Country Hotel in San Diego.  David Gilcrease (the WWASPS seminar person) is coordinating efforts to contact parents.  An observer there says there is a lot of crying, as children learn that their parents don't want them back. Psychologist Roderick Hall, long a critic of Casa, as well as CPS is expected to intervene today.
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« Reply #23 on: September 12, 2004, 03:37:00 PM »
The police, CPS, news media, and a few children who have been exposed to wwasps are currently onsite.

The hotel management is requesting that they all leave & let wwasp handle their own problems.  Of course they would...this is where they hold their "graduations".  Can the hotel spell "revenue lose" anyway since CASA is no longer open!

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« Reply #24 on: September 12, 2004, 04:17:00 PM »
The hotel management is requesting that they all leave & let wwasp handle their own problems. Of course they would...this is where they hold their "graduations".


Ha, its almost funny. Yes, naturally they are trying to help pull the covers over the mess.

I hear police are there; and I hope they inform those kids what their rights are under CA law.

I hope the press digs deeper than the well programed hand picked parents wwasp feeds them.
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« Reply #25 on: September 12, 2004, 05:36:00 PM »
Wow, someone is stepping in as soon as they got deported?

YES! Hopefully this will see the light of day!

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DannyB on the internet:I CALLED A LAWYER TODAY TO SEE IF I COULD SUE YOUR ASSES FOR DOING THIS BUT THAT WAS NOT POSSIBLE.

CCMGirl on program restraints: "DON\'T TAZ ME BRO!!!!!"

TheWho on program survivors: "From where I sit I see all the anit-program[sic] people doing all the complaining and crying."

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« Reply #26 on: September 12, 2004, 05:49:00 PM »
***David Gilcrease (the WWASPS seminar person) is coordinating efforts to contact parents.

So, he's more than a consultant or workshop designer? Sounds like he's a staff member.

***An observer there says there is a lot of crying, as children learn that their parents don't want them back. Psychologist Roderick Hall, long a critic of Casa, as well as CPS is expected to intervene today.

That is so sad. I have to wonder if this is the stance the sheeple were told to take by W or if the parents truly do not want their kids back.
Either way, where are the child advocate attorneys helping file lawsuits against parents, and the program if they experienced abuse????
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« Reply #27 on: September 12, 2004, 05:50:00 PM »
Lets all write to local colleges http://forums.greekchat.com/gcforums/sh ... adid=56574 link to the local GREEK LIFE BOARDS http://sdcommunities.net/YouthConnect.a ... Code=92182 Local Youth Message boards
http://sdcommunities.net/community.aspx?ZipCode=92182 San Diego area communities link
http://www.authenticrock.com/aboutus.htm the local radio station,

ACLU of San Diego & Imperial Counties
P.O. Box 87131
San Diego, CA 92138-7131
PHONE: 619-232-2121
http://aclusandiego.org/index.html

or anyone else we know in the San Diego area who will listen and tell them the where-abouts of all the kids removed from Mexico and what is going on at the Town and Country Motel Phone: 619-291-7131 address: 500 Hotel cir N. San Diego CA.

Lets see how the motel likes this. Maybe get everyone protesting at the motel? Also keep calling local law enforcement personnel http://www.sandiego.gov/police/

 DHS 1-800-527-3223 and anyone else who will listen and the motel where they are keeping the kids 619-291-7131 and telling them as long as they are harboring and protecting child abusers they will be no longer have your business and you will tell your friends not to go there either.[ This Message was edited by: Devlin on 2004-09-12 15:23 ]
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« Reply #28 on: September 12, 2004, 06:25:00 PM »
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"***David Gilcrease (the WWASPS seminar person) is coordinating efforts to contact parents.



So, he's more than a consultant or workshop designer? Sounds like he's a staff member.



***An observer there says there is a lot of crying, as children learn that their parents don't want them back. Psychologist Roderick Hall, long a critic of Casa, as well as CPS is expected to intervene today.



That is so sad. I have to wonder if this is the stance the sheeple were told to take by W or if the parents truly do not want their kids back.

Either way, where are the child advocate attorneys helping file lawsuits against parents, and the program if they experienced abuse????

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As to Gilcrease, he is the designer of the seminars.  Former HP software designer, devout Mormom, greedy bastard...what better credentials do you need?  As to his "role" in WWASPS or TeenHelp or Resource Realizations [since renamed something], I can't say for sure.  I know he is personally in attendance at a lot of seminars for parents.  His picture is all over The Source magazine, hugging shoulders of beaming parents who seem absolutely flushed with validation.  Since he is now at the Town and Country Hotel in Room 1010 and shepherding the Casa kids, one can only surmise that he is into the WWASPS corporate structure big-time (and has a lot to lose).  Is he staff?  What, exactly, is staff as compared to investor, etc.?  Probably doesn't make any difference.  I expect lawyer J. Atkins, the airline owner/aboriginal WWASPie, is also fuming and shuffling legal papers back at the Lichfield ranch.

And, yes, the brutal parents exist, and I don't even think WWASPS has to contact them to encourage them to continue their abandonment of their kids.  They just have the accountant write another check for next month and leave the facility name blank for now.  

The only way to stop this insanity, since evil parents will always exist, is to make it illegal to offer such services.  Shut 'em down!
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« Reply #29 on: September 12, 2004, 06:27:00 PM »
do it up dev...i like your style...those kids need people like you on the outside helping...i'm sure any publicity would greatly be appreciated at this point
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