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Offline Anonymous

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« on: July 16, 2004, 01:22:00 AM »
OK. Don't laugh. I'm not tech savvy. What does it mean to clean your cache/cookies or whatever after you post to these sites? How do you do that? What is a cache and what are cookies?
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« Reply #1 on: July 16, 2004, 03:25:00 AM »
mmm... cookies..
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« Reply #2 on: July 16, 2004, 11:20:00 AM »
I wasn't talking about chocolate chip.  I am serious about cache and cookies. Are cookies the equivelent of a paper trail but on the computer? So how do you guard your privacy online and what do cookies and cache have to do w/it?
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« Reply #3 on: July 16, 2004, 11:28:00 AM »
I'm no techie either, but cookies are what enables your computer to remember screen names and passwords, as far as I know.  You can delete them in your control panel, under internet options.

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« Reply #4 on: July 16, 2004, 04:18:00 PM »
It might be very wise to lay low, stay anonymous and avoid tracing here. There is some kind of lawsuit going on involving this site. See

http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?to ... forum=1&84
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« Reply #5 on: July 16, 2004, 04:33:00 PM »
Please.  No one is going to sue you (at least not successfully) for what you post here.  My God people.

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« Reply #6 on: July 16, 2004, 04:34:00 PM »
Thanks for the info on the lawsuit, it was the first I've heard of it, and it may help explain why some people post anonymously.

I don't know if posting anonymously is a total guarantee of not being traced, however, I've read elsewhere in a completely different context that the FBI and some other police agencies have methods that, while more indirect and costly, can trace the source of messages that could, in the past, not be traced.  I think it's technology that has to do with terrorism surveillance.  But it is definitely not an area where I have any competence at all.

It doesn't affect me since I never do things anonymously but I've seen anonymous posts at this site that talk about such things as assault rifles and karma and going after old school personnell and even their children.  May just be talk but I would not be surprised if this kind of stuff was being looked into and is a factor in the lawsuit you refer to.

Does anyone, who unlike me, does have a clue about computers, know the scope of the detection methods now available to track down the source of anonymous messages?
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« Reply #7 on: July 16, 2004, 04:39:00 PM »
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"Please.  No one is going to sue you (at least not successfully) for what you post here.  


Well with CEDU there are already enough cases against them that they can't really call you slanderous . I think that case with Ginger (the site owner) involves a facility that claims it is clean.
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« Reply #8 on: July 16, 2004, 04:40:00 PM »
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"Thanks for the info on the lawsuit, it was the first I've heard of it, and it may help explain why some people post anonymously.


And pray tell, what is the difference between "Anonymous" and "ottawa5"??? They both seem pretty anonymous to me.
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« Reply #9 on: July 16, 2004, 05:29:00 PM »
This is what comes of working on two computer screens at once, when you are really, really a computer klutz.. of course it is me.  

People tell me my style of writing, which developed from attending a very correct and grammar-driven school up there in Canada, is definitive, even without the apparent ability to always remember to enter the proper info when I post, so that's helpful at least in keeping plumb and square on standing behind for what I say.

But the questions of anonymity and tracing methods are of great interest, as is the very recent post pertaining to what is the scope of  "freedom of speech".  

There are in fact limitations to such freedoms: issues of "shouting fire in a crowded theater", the ever growing exception for what might be construed in a variety of ways as "terroristic threats", and specific or semi-specific threats to do harm to a person or group of persons.  As well as the idea of conspiracy to bring any of these things about, by, say, allowing them to be posted on your web site.

I don't know how any of these relate to the suit that someone said concerns this site. Perhaps someone else does. I do know that it costs a lot to go to court even if you aren't found guilty, so it pays not to say dangerous, threatening things (I'm not talking about profanity, rudeness, vulgarity, I'm talking about threats, even made broadly).

Could anyone reasonable disagree with that?
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« Reply #10 on: July 16, 2004, 05:39:00 PM »
Oh, I get what you mean: anonymous and ottawa5 are both the same to you--I thought you were suggesting that I had forgotten to enter my username, something that I am wont to do at times--I then saw that I had not--good for me!

Yes, I see what you mean, but at the same time, a little information is better than none.  If you post anonymously, there is little chance to see what you've said before, to get a broader context for your position; there is the possibility, when there is absolutely no constant identifier, of a person taking different positions, playing games about things.  And when anonymous, people may well say things that they would be ashamed to say if they had to be known, even a little.

I just think that some level of certainty is better than nothing, so I much prefer to have a username. And in general it is difficult for me to take someone seriously who can't even be known to that extent.



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« Reply #11 on: July 16, 2004, 10:07:00 PM »
What's the difference betwen ottawa and annomous???????????? Both are annomouse posts from a specific IP address.
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« Reply #12 on: July 16, 2004, 10:18:00 PM »
this is stupid.  you guys have taken a simple question about cookies and turned it into an arguement.   :roll:
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« Reply #13 on: July 16, 2004, 10:20:00 PM »
there is no difference between ottawa and anonymous, either way it's just some guy from Canada blowing smoke up your asses.  we still don't know if this guy is a cedu sheep or not!

hey, otto, if you really want to prove yourself as being any better than the anonymous posters,
why don't you tell us who you really are already?
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« Reply #14 on: July 16, 2004, 10:23:00 PM »
SON OF SERBIA wrote the last post.
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