Ridge Creek "School" - Serious Safety Issues/ORS Violation

[RobertBruce]

the rest you just make up or take from other people stories who actually did some work to straighten themselves out

Provide a link to someone who claims to have been "straightened out" at HLA.

You didnt provide one link in you post by the way.

To what Johnny? Be specific now son.

[Whooter]

And the six other girls who made the same complaint against the same kid, were they just flirting as well?

Read the complaint.  they witnessed it as well.  It was resident #11 that was involved.

The truth is Johnny, you don't know what happened, other than it was something worth reporting, and something the ORS agent felt it worth writing up. That sounds like it might be a little more than flirting.

exactly, I think we can agree here,  The ORS never said anyone was raped.  thank you, Bruce.

As far as backround checks go, remember that letter from Clarke Poole? Remember that kid he mentioned, the Hanibal Lector, whom I believe raped his little sister. I wonder if a backround check would have been a good idea with him. What do you think?

We can talk about Columbine too if you like, Bruce.  what is your point?  I agree that every kid that turns 18 should have a background check done on him/her.  but there is going to be some time of non compliance until the work gets done and it is not a critical item in my opinion.


 

Of course no matter how heinous the incident might be you will forever attempt to water it down in an effort to not scare off parents or investors due to your fiduciary interest. Right buddy?

Oh, yea I forgot, everyone has an agenda.  yours is spending your life trying to get back at HLA because you ran away while all the other people got the help they needed and moved on with their lives while you are stuck here on fornits crying all day.  Mine is you think I get paid for post here.  That sounds credible?  lol



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[Whooter]

The lesson learned here is that the ORS inspectors are professionals and they were there for the interviews.  If they felt someone was raped they would have called the police right then and there.  But they didn’t.  We need to keep in mind the backgrounds of DJ/control Troll and Robert Bruce:


Both Robert Bruce and Dysfunction Junction self admittedly failed at HLA and are obviously still frustrated by this.  Bruce refused to be accountable for his actions and subsequently ran away after a few weeks and Dysfunction Junction was fired when they found out he lied on his application, he was previously arrested and convicted for selling drugs to kids which was a felony.



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[RobertBruce]

The 3 weeks you spent at HLA, you mean.

Whoops. Looks like you forgot to post a link.  :seg:

[Whooter]

The 3 weeks you spent at HLA, you mean.

Whoops. Looks like you forgot to post a link.  :seg:

You edited it out remember?  but I got confirmation from someone who knew you at HLA.



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[RobertBruce]

Lets not move past this right now Bruce.

So you're finally going to back up your lie Johnny? It's about time.

We both know that you are lying and the readers are not going to buy it.

How do you know I'm lying Johnny? You've provided zero evidence so far. Also at what age did you begin to think you could read people's minds? Just curious.

You told me a story about how you kicked a staff person in the face and ran away and the police picked you up.

Whoops. Looks like you forgot to provide a link.  :seg:

This was after being there 3 weeks.

Whoops. Looks like you forgot to provide a link.  :seg:

You never had to endure anything at HLA. you never applied yourself and your MO has always been to run away

Whoops. Looks like you forgot to provide a link.  :seg:

You have since edited your post and I understand why.

Because you're a liar who routinely edits his post in an attempt to cover up the truth. We all know that already John. In the meantime if this edited posts exist as you claim, you should have no trouble finding it, and linking to it. Get on it now Johnny.

I received confirmation from someone who knew you from HLA.

You mean this confirmation?

Re: John D. Reuben and SavingTeens.org
by Whooter » Tue Oct 13, 2009 12:39 am

Guest wrote:


John calls everyone who nails his ass to the wall "Bruce"

Its Still......Wiggle, wiggle, Bruce, as thewho would say. You have been owned for years by this guy and you just cant let it go. I have watched this guy string you along and make you jump thru hoops, Bruce. The last straw was when he got the ear of a staff member from HLA and found out you had issues about being a coward.

You should try to change your writting style if you really expect to fool anyone.

http://http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=48&t=27903&p=348141&hilit=hla#p348128

There's you telling on yourself for a blatent HIPPA violation John (something you later lied about). Discussing personal information about a former student with a staffer. Never a good idea John. You shouldn't have let yourself be FunctionJunctions stoolie. You did his dirty work for him, and in the end they never even had the right person to begin with. You just looked stupid on every front Johnny, and you came out a liar.


Oh and just as a forewarning, I'm not going to get tired of holding you accountable. I know you hate it, but I truly find it to be hilarious. This isn't going to stop John, until you get banned for good. Just letting you know.


 Also you may want to familiarize yourself with the phrases, "kicked his ass" and "kicked his teeth in". You're having trouble keeping your lies straight and learning something may help you in your day to day life in the future.

[RobertBruce]

You edited it out remember? but I got confirmation from someone who knew you at HLA.

The staffer from HLA you mean. Yeah, they had the wrong guy John, I told you that years ago. In any event go ahead and link to this edited post you claim exists.

[Whooter]

Oh and just as a forewarning, I'm not going to get tired of holding you accountable. I know you hate it, but I truly find it to be hilarious. This isn't going to stop John, until you get banned for good. Just letting you know.

Why would you start to get tired now?  I'll be here long after you are banned, but you could still email me if you like.


 

Also you may want to familiarize yourself with the phrases, "kicked his ass" and "kicked his teeth in". You're having trouble keeping your lies straight and learning something may help you in your day to day life in the future.

They are both painful and I doubt I would lie about either one of them.  Kicking you ass could mean the actual physical act or just winning a race or a debate.  Kicking his teeth in is typically just a physical act and does not carry a metaphorical meaning that I am aware of.  So I believe I am familiar enough with both of them to carry myself through a conversation.



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[RobertBruce]

John now that you've been sufficently shamed and exposed as a liar once again I'm going to give you your one warning. Stay on topic. Do not attempt to derail this thread with your lies and sad attempts at personal attacks. This is the only time I'm going to say this to you. This thread is dedicated to discussing Ridge Creek and the ORS violations. Nothing else. Keep the rest of your garbage restricted to either OFFA or your garbage depot. If you attempt to derail the conversation again you will be banned.

[Whooter]

John now that you've been sufficently shamed and exposed as a liar once again I'm going to give you your one warning. Stay on topic. Do not attempt to derail this thread with your lies and sad attempts at personal attacks. This is the only time I'm going to say this to you. This thread is dedicated to discussing Ridge Creek and the ORS violations. Nothing else. Keep the rest of your garbage restricted to either OFFA or your garbage depot. If you attempt to derail the conversation again you will be banned.

Are you mentally ill?  You just wrote 4 threads on yourself and how you think I am John Reubn.  lol  I could not derail this thread anymore than you just did if I tried.  Since when did you gain the authority to ban anyone?   If you cannot lay off the attacks then move it to the OFFA.



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[Whooter]

Back on Topic:

I reviwed the ORS report. I was a staff at RCS during part of this time frame. Though I did not have a good experience at RCS as an employee, some of the citations are rediculous!

 I have to agree with you and can see why some of these schools want to avoid regulation altogether.



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[RobertBruce]

I'll go ahead and respond to this since you got it in before my warning. You may respond to my comments in either OFFA or John Reubens Garbage Depot.

Why would you start to get tired now? I'll be here long after you are banned, but you could still email me if you like.

 :roflmao: What is it you think I'll be banned for Johnny? It's ironic coming you considering you've been banned already three times, and you had to cry and beg to be allowed back on, plus you may end up being banned permanetly in short order.

They are both painful and I doubt I would lie about either one of them. Kicking you ass could mean the actual physical act or just winning a race or a debate. Kicking his teeth in is typically just a physical act and does not carry a metaphorical meaning that I am aware of. So I believe I am familiar enough with both of them to carry myself through a conversation

I imagine you could fill whole libraries with the things you aren't aware of. That aside, you probably should familiarize yourself with the phrase. Again, if you can't even keep your own lies straight, you're only embarrassing yourself further.

Now that that's said and done you would be wise (first time for everything) to heed my warning. Stay on topic. Last time I'm telling you Johnny.

[Whooter]

I'll go ahead and respond to this since you got it in before my warning. You may respond to my comments in either OFFA or John Reubens Garbage Depot.

Why would you start to get tired now? I'll be here long after you are banned, but you could still email me if you like.

 :roflmao: What is it you think I'll be banned for Johnny? It's ironic coming you considering you've been banned already three times, and you had to cry and beg to be allowed back on, plus you may end up being banned permanetly in short order.

They are both painful and I doubt I would lie about either one of them. Kicking you ass could mean the actual physical act or just winning a race or a debate. Kicking his teeth in is typically just a physical act and does not carry a metaphorical meaning that I am aware of. So I believe I am familiar enough with both of them to carry myself through a conversation

I imagine you could fill whole libraries with the things you aren't aware of. That aside, you probably should familiarize yourself with the phrase. Again, if you can't even keep your own lies straight, you're only embarrassing yourself further.

Now that that's said and done you would be wise (first time for everything) to heed my warning. Stay on topic. Last time I'm telling you Johnny.

You are a strange little fellow Bruce, still trying to derail the thread?  Even after your own warning  tsk,tsk,tsk.  I think we should ban you.



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[Whooter]

Back on topic.  We were talking about wilderness:

I reviwed the ORS report. I was a staff at RCS during part of this time frame. Though I did not have a good experience at RCS as an employee, some of the citations are rediculous! Especially in regards to the Wilderness Intervention. First, the students were all provided with a sleeping pad and a down sleeping bag in addition to thermal layers in case it got cold. The students were required to assist in the preparation of food but staff helped with food prep and were provided 3 square meals and two snacks each day. Students were also provided two, one litre water bottles and a were given access to water coolers and were encouraged to fill up many times throughout the day. The Solo was a 24 hour period where students slept in individual tents, closely monitored by staff. Students could not talk to other students but could talk to staff any time they wanted...this was about self-control, learning to delay gratification and having time to reflect about what behaviors they did that got them sent to intervention. Once solo was over the group slept in a group shelter called a Tabin (not a tavern). The beds were indeed metal frames with a wood slab on top...like a box spring. Students had sleeping pads, sleeping bags and their pillows. This may have been one of the most therapeutic things that happened on campus during my short time there. Students had to learn about self-reliance and independant thinking--not following peers who are doing negative behaviors. Each day students engaged in therapeutic groups, community projects and worked on academics and therapeutic assignments and learned how to hold each other accountable. As you can tell i am a big believer in the power of outdoor therapeutic programs! Many students returning from those interventions made huge progress behaviorally even after only 7 days and many of them have continued on that path of sucess. Also know that the interventions occured during warm months.

Though many a shadey thing has happened on that campus the staff members who work directly with the students are good people who during my time there made the best effort they could to support students given their limited training and supports. The biggest limitations to the program are the decision makers and higher-ups in Administration.

 :soapbox:

ok...I will get off my soap box now!

[Dysfunction Junction]

It was documented that Resident #11
appeared upset and stated that what occurred between herself (R11) and the male resident was
an unwelcome encounter.

In other words, she was raped.

So based on this definition, 99% of all kids in highschool are raped !! OMG!!! Lets wait for the swat team to come in. 2 teenagers had sex with one another.

No one teenaged boy raped a younger girl.
 
You mean that 99% of highschool students are victims of "unwanted sexual contact"?  I'd have to see your stats on that load of BS.

I don't think it's funny that you are making light of this girl being raped by a male inmate.  In fact, I find it thoroughly disgusting and shows you have a really sick mind.  You need help, man.  Look at what you are posting.

You have previously described another poster's rape at the tender age of 15 years old as "unprotected sex" as well.  Maybe you should educate yourself about what rape is and what a serious crime it is.  Your comments are disgusting.

Whooter, you really should educate yourself about what sexual assault is.  It isn't "flirting," bro.