Cataloging TheWho/John Reuben's Lies

[Troll Control]

RB, I never did any of those things anyway, so it's moot.  But Whooter has done all of them, repeatedly.

Man, this dude is all ate up. :roflmao:  "Bob, make DJ be nice to me and then I'll answer you!" :cry:

How many people think Whooter/SUCK IT would last a week in any program he pimps?  He'd be sitting in the corner rocking back and forth sucking his thumb.

This is child's play compared to what they do at Aspen programs to children.  He can't even hack it on a message board even though everything I posted was quoted and linked back to his OP's.  Imagine how he would react if I actually started getting creative?  

First, I wouldn't.  I just post straight up quotations from Whooter (although he has been hacking up/copying/pasting all sorts of stuff with no attribution) and second, there's no need!  He's so feeble and weak that just throwing his own words up here with a link completely wrecks him.  

He's just a butt-hurt ass-clown that wasted five years of his sorry life on Fornits for a net effect of zero.  Or maybe negative zero if there were such a thing.

[Whooter]

Whoops, DJ, caught in another lie.  DJ's MO is falsifying posts to make it seem like I wrote them.  You should ask him to show you a post where Ottawa5 and I were speaking together... hint  (it doesnt exist).  I can show you that one later.

Whooter he does bring a good point regarding your post concerning a son and not a daughter. Can you explain this discrepancy?

Well take a look at your friend DJ’s post and see what is written:
Link to DJ's post

Then compare it to this post on an ASR chat board (Look at the 7th post)... Ha,Ha,Ha caught red handed again:

Link to ASR chat board

This is what your buddy Dysfunction Junction tries to pass along as proof.   He deals with deception and he has a burning need to try to discredit those who disagree with him.  The site was his link originally and he started referring to them and even started a thread based on them.  But when I referenced them he claims they were written by me.

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[Troll Control]

Whoops, DJ, caught in another lie. DJ's MO is falsifying posts to make it seem like I wrote them.

Go ahead and post some of them so we can see, Whooter.  I'll be glad to review these posts for accuracy.

Here's one we can begin with while we wait for you to put up the ones you claim aren't yours:

When is this supposed to take place?

Well the  announcement takes place after the lawyers sign off on the deal, but they usually wait until the transfer is ready to take place.
The legal transfer typically takes place at the beginning of the new quarter (or fiscal year).
So based on this I would expect the announcement would come at anytime and the transfer could occur on Tuesday October 1, 2007 or early January 2008.



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How is it that you are in a position to have knowledge about the acquisition of HLA?

I apologize for being vague, I have a fiduciary duty which prevents me from speaking in any specific terms in this area and can only comment on information which is first made public by either party involved,  this could be misconstrued as Tipping

Link to origninal FIduciary Duty post  :rofl:

[Whooter]

Are you ashamed of this. DJ?  Why not explain why you lied?

Uh, yeah, like there's no industry types on Fornits.  Wait a sec...one of them is you, Mr. Aspen Fiduciary!

Remember when you claimed to have access to RB's treatment records via an HLA staff member on this board?  Or your true love, Ottawa5 whose stated goal was to open her "own program along the lines of CEDU"?  

Your explanation is laughable, troll boy :rofl: .

….. do you have LINKS to the original posts for all this material? Or are you just making this up as you go along?

Great catch, Ursus, you are on to his MO too I see.   I dont even know who Ottawa5 is.  I did a search on ottawa5 and it turns out that I never had any contact with this poster, not even one post! DJ is starting to lose it I think.  Why does he continue to make this stuff up?  What is the point?  No wonder he didnt provide links its all just fabricated.

Does anyone even know who this Ottawa5 poster is?




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[Whooter]

Again, lets wait until DJ comes clean, then I will answer your questions.  Look at the title of this thread ( and a few others)and try to tell the readers that DJ didnt flood the forum for years trying to build a case against me because I wouldnt agree with his thinking.


1.He fabricated posts and put my name on them.
2.  He lied about his education and when confronted cleaned up his history.
3. He fabricated a PM and put my user-name on it
4. He previously admitted to abusing kids in programs and now is changing his mind
5.He ended up in jail and lost his job at HLA, why?  Was it for child abuse?
6. He lied about Ottawa5 being a friend of mine and planning to open up a program together.
7.  He fabricated a post saying I admitted to working for a program.
8. He fabricated a post which stated I had a son at ASR.

See, your friend DJ, was being a prick all these years because he couldnt stand living a lie.  Telling everyone that all programs are abusive and having to live with the fact that he abused kids himself.  Taking a professional oath of protecting children and promising to report abuse, yet working at several programs himself and never saying anything to help all these kids that were being abused around him.
His logic and argument just falls apart around him as he keeps a white knuckled grip on all the strings that hold up the facade around him.  How can he change his mind and start telling us now he never abused a child and then say all programs are abusive?  If he had all this training and degrees he would know that he was obligated to call the department of social services the first day he walked through the door.

None of it adds up.



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[Troll Control]

Whoops!  Whooter is caught blatantly altering the very post he claims I altered.  Ursus even pinched you for it and linked back to his own OP that you jacked up.  Oh, you're a fucking genius, Whooter.  Quit while you're behind, crybaby.

Uh, yeah, like there's no industry types on Fornits.  Wait a sec...one of them is you, Mr. Aspen Fiduciary!

Remember when you claimed to have access to RB's treatment records via an HLA staff member on this board?  Or your true love, Ottawa5 whose stated goal was to open her "own program along the lines of CEDU"?  

Your explanation is laughable, troll boy :rofl: .

….. do you have LINKS to the original posts for all this material? Or are you just making this up as you go along?

Good Catch, Ursus.  Links are not his strength it appears.
ouch!!!  lol

Actually, Whooter, my post was in response to your posting of various falacious Dysfunction Junction posts which apparently are the sole creation of your imagination. Moreover, my original quote, before you altered it, read as follows:

Whooter, do you have LINKS to the original posts for all this material? Or are you just making this up as you go along?

PLUS... Your original reply to my post, before you altered it, read as follows:

Whooter, do you have LINKS to the original posts for all this material? Or are you just making this up as you go along?

Sure, just like everyone else.

[Whooter]

Whoops, DJ, caught in another lie.  DJ's MO is falsifying posts to make it seem like I wrote them.  You should ask him to show you a post where Ottawa5 and I were speaking together... hint  (it doesnt exist).  I can show you that one later.

Whooter he does bring a good point regarding your post concerning a son and not a daughter. Can you explain this discrepancy?

Well take a look at your friend DJ’s post and see what is written:
Link to DJ's post

Then compare it to this post on an ASR chat board (Look at the 7th post)... Ha,Ha,Ha caught red handed again:

Link to ASR chat board

This is what your buddy Dysfunction Junction tries to pass along as proof.   He deals with deception and he has a burning need to try to discredit those who disagree with him.  The site was his link originally and he started referring to them and even started a thread based on them.  But when I referenced them he claims they were written by me.

Link



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[Whooter]

Are you ashamed of this. DJ?  Why not explain why you lied?

Uh, yeah, like there's no industry types on Fornits.  Wait a sec...one of them is you, Mr. Aspen Fiduciary!

Remember when you claimed to have access to RB's treatment records via an HLA staff member on this board?  Or your true love, Ottawa5 whose stated goal was to open her "own program along the lines of CEDU"?  

Your explanation is laughable, troll boy :rofl: .

….. do you have LINKS to the original posts for all this material? Or are you just making this up as you go along?

Great catch, Ursus, you are on to his MO too I see.   I dont even know who Ottawa5 is.  I did a search on ottawa5 and it turns out that I never had any contact with this poster, not even one post! DJ is starting to lose it I think.  Why does he continue to make this stuff up?  What is the point?  No wonder he didnt provide links its all just fabricated.

Does anyone even know who this Ottawa5 poster is?




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[Troll Control]

Whooter's trolling too furiously to stop and see he has been busted red-handed posting a hacked up post by Ursus.  Have a read of Whooter's complete and total fabrication of Ursus' post...  This guy is an idiot!

Whoops!  Whooter is caught blatantly altering the very post he claims I altered.  Ursus even pinched you for it and linked back to his own OP that you jacked up.  Oh, you're a fucking genius, Whooter.  Quit while you're behind, crybaby.

Uh, yeah, like there's no industry types on Fornits.  Wait a sec...one of them is you, Mr. Aspen Fiduciary!

Remember when you claimed to have access to RB's treatment records via an HLA staff member on this board?  Or your true love, Ottawa5 whose stated goal was to open her "own program along the lines of CEDU"?  

Your explanation is laughable, troll boy :rofl: .

….. do you have LINKS to the original posts for all this material? Or are you just making this up as you go along?

Good Catch, Ursus.  Links are not his strength it appears.
ouch!!!  lol

Actually, Whooter, my post was in response to your posting of various falacious Dysfunction Junction posts which apparently are the sole creation of your imagination. Moreover, my original quote, before you altered it, read as follows:

Whooter, do you have LINKS to the original posts for all this material? Or are you just making this up as you go along?

PLUS... Your original reply to my post, before you altered it, read as follows:

Whooter, do you have LINKS to the original posts for all this material? Or are you just making this up as you go along?

Sure, just like everyone else.

[Whooter]

DJ, anyone can do what you do.  We just dont chose to do it.  You have been trolling here on fornits for years and finally you are getting a taste of your own.  We forced you to log in and you chose not to partake in any conversations, now look at the crap that you post all day.  You claim to have all this education yet you cannot have a civil conversation about the industry you claimed to have worked in (on any level except to discredit other posters).

Fact One: This post shows Dysfunction Junction worked at Daytop at one time. It also shows that he had a felony conviction and prison sentance.

Fact Two: He no longer works in the TBS field. According to him he got disillusioned with the industry. I suspect he isn't allowed to be employed by them with a previous felony conviction as most TBS's do background checks for most of their employees usually.

I'll bust your fucking teeth down your throat, choke you until you nearly fall unconscious, then give you a wake-up kick to the temple and send you on your merry way.  Your pain, suffering and disfigurement wouldn't matter .......

Look, DJ, you dont need to threaten everyone that disagrees with you.  I think we all know that if it were not for your criminal past that you would still be working in the TT industry instead of posting here on fornits to establish a resume that doesnt exist in real life.  Maybe when you took this anger of yours out on the kids is why HLA decide to release you.  I believe you have a past post where you admitted this unless you edited it out all ready.



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[Whooter]

Whooter he does bring a good point regarding your post concerning a son and not a daughter. Can you explain this discrepancy?

Well take a look at your friend DJ’s post and see what is written:
Link to DJ's post

Then compare it to this post on an ASR chat board (Look at the 7th post)... Ha,Ha,Ha caught red handed again:

Link to ASR chat board

This is what your buddy Dysfunction Junction tries to pass along as proof.   He deals with deception and he has a burning need to try to discredit those who disagree with him.  The site was his link originally and he started referring to them and even started a thread based on them.  But when I referenced them he claims they were written by me.



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[Whooter]

How was I suppose to figure out that Wilderness programs run an average of 2 weeks and cost $6,000 and TBS’s run an average of 12 – 16 months and cost 70,000 – to -$100,000.  If I knew that,  then yeah I could agree that the TBS was "where the real money is"

You have thought that since I “knew where the real money was” then that meant I was an industry person.  But what it really revealed is that there is a really good chance that you never earned an MBA to not figure out basic business math like that.  Anyone with any business knowledge could figure that out in their head, DJ.  So you see you shot yourself in the foot by claiming only and industry person could figure this out and by saying that you showed us that you had no business degree.

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[Troll Control]

I'm just trying to address your "concerns" Whooter.  You posted a fabricated post as "evidence" I was fabricating.  And you got pinched...again.

Whooter's trolling too furiously to stop and see he has been busted red-handed posting a hacked up post by Ursus.  Have a read of Whooter's complete and total fabrication of Ursus' post...  This guy is an idiot!

Whoops!  Whooter is caught blatantly altering the very post he claims I altered.  Ursus even pinched you for it and linked back to his own OP that you jacked up.  Oh, you're a fucking genius, Whooter.  Quit while you're behind, crybaby.

Uh, yeah, like there's no industry types on Fornits.  Wait a sec...one of them is you, Mr. Aspen Fiduciary!

Remember when you claimed to have access to RB's treatment records via an HLA staff member on this board?  Or your true love, Ottawa5 whose stated goal was to open her "own program along the lines of CEDU"?  

Your explanation is laughable, troll boy :rofl: .

….. do you have LINKS to the original posts for all this material? Or are you just making this up as you go along?

Good Catch, Ursus.  Links are not his strength it appears.
ouch!!!  lol

Actually, Whooter, my post was in response to your posting of various falacious Dysfunction Junction posts which apparently are the sole creation of your imagination. Moreover, my original quote, before you altered it, read as follows:

Whooter, do you have LINKS to the original posts for all this material? Or are you just making this up as you go along?

PLUS... Your original reply to my post, before you altered it, read as follows:

Whooter, do you have LINKS to the original posts for all this material? Or are you just making this up as you go along?[/size]

Sure, just like everyone else.

 :cheers:  :feedtrolls:

[Whooter]

Whooter he does bring a good point regarding your post concerning a son and not a daughter. Can you explain this discrepancy?

Well take a look at your friend DJ’s post and see what is written:
Link to DJ's post

Then compare it to this post on an ASR chat board (Look at the 7th post)... Ha,Ha,Ha caught red handed again:

Link to ASR chat board

This is what your buddy Dysfunction Junction tries to pass along as proof.   He deals with deception and he has a burning need to try to discredit those who disagree with him.  The site was his link originally and he started referring to them and even started a thread based on them.  But when I referenced them he claims they were written by me.



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[Whooter]

How was I suppose to figure out that Wilderness programs run an average of 2 weeks and cost $6,000 and TBS’s run an average of 12 – 16 months and cost 70,000 – to -$100,000.  If I knew that,  then yeah I could agree that the TBS was "where the real money is".

I thought you said you had a Masters in Business Administration? MBA

Screw you whootie, I have more degrees than you do.  Your an industry shill.  I could have figured out the math too because yes I did get my MBA, its just that my calculator on my laptop is not functioning.

Look, DJ, calm down.  You are the one claiming that I must have all this inside knowledge because I can figure out that TBS's cost more than Wilderness therapy.  I just did the math for you thats all.  If you feel only industry people have that type of knowledge than that is your right to think that way.  I just think your wrong thats all.  Any person claiming to have an MBA should be able to figure where the real money is between TBS and Wilderness.

Just stating my opinion, thats all.



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