Cataloging TheWho/John Reuben's Lies

[Whooter]

Whooter he does bring a good point regarding your post concerning a son and not a daughter. Can you explain this discrepancy?

Well take a look at your friend DJ’s post and see what is written:
Link to DJ's post

Then compare it to this post on an ASR chat board (Look at the 7th post)... Ha,Ha,Ha caught red handed again:

Link to ASR chat board

This is what your buddy Dysfunction Junction tries to pass along as proof.   He deals with deception and he has a burning need to try to discredit those who disagree with him.  The site was his link originally and he started referring to them and even started a thread based on them.  But when I referenced them he claims they were written by me.



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[Whooter]

Are you ashamed of this. DJ?  Why not explain why you lied?

Uh, yeah, like there's no industry types on Fornits.  Wait a sec...one of them is you, Mr. Aspen Fiduciary!

Remember when you claimed to have access to RB's treatment records via an HLA staff member on this board?  Or your true love, Ottawa5 whose stated goal was to open her "own program along the lines of CEDU"?  

Your explanation is laughable, troll boy :rofl: .

….. do you have LINKS to the original posts for all this material? Or are you just making this up as you go along?

Great catch, Ursus, you are on to his MO too I see.   I dont even know who Ottawa5 is.  I did a search on ottawa5 and it turns out that I never had any contact with this poster, not even one post! DJ is starting to lose it I think.  Why does he continue to make this stuff up?  What is the point?  No wonder he didnt provide links its all just fabricated.

Does anyone even know who this Ottawa5 poster is?




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[RobertBruce]

Whooter what is your intent in flooding the boards? It doesn't much to move the conversation forward.

[Whooter]

Are you ashamed of this. DJ?  Why not explain why you lied?

Uh, yeah, like there's no industry types on Fornits.  Wait a sec...one of them is you, Mr. Aspen Fiduciary!

Remember when you claimed to have access to RB's treatment records via an HLA staff member on this board?  Or your true love, Ottawa5 whose stated goal was to open her "own program along the lines of CEDU"?  

Your explanation is laughable, troll boy :rofl: .

….. do you have LINKS to the original posts for all this material? Or are you just making this up as you go along?

Great catch, Ursus, you are on to his MO too I see.   I dont even know who Ottawa5 is.  I did a search on ottawa5 and it turns out that I never had any contact with this poster, not even one post! DJ is starting to lose it I think.  Why does he continue to make this stuff up?  What is the point?  No wonder he didnt provide links its all just fabricated.

Does anyone even know who this Ottawa5 poster is?




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[RobertBruce]

Are you unwilling to answer the question Whooter?

[Whooter]

Are you unwilling to answer the question Whooter?

Sure, right after DJ comes clean and explains why he lied about Ottawa5 being a friend of mine, why he fabricated posts and put my name on them, why he lied about his education, why he fabricated a PM with my user-name on it and why he previously admitted to abusing kids in programs and now is changing his mind, why he ended up in jail and lost his job at HLA.

After those are answered I will address your issues.  Okay Bob?  He is interested in my past posts, so I think it only fair that he come clean himself.


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[Troll Control]

But you posted this, Whooter.  No "fabrication."  It's still in the DB for everyone to enjoy.  If you can't even get over your own posts, how can we "move on"?  :roflmao:

This is the plain and simple statement, written by Whooter, that has set off this spate of trolling due to its reposting by me:

When is this supposed to take place?

Well the  announcement takes place after the lawyers sign off on the deal, but they usually wait until the transfer is ready to take place.
The legal transfer typically takes place at the beginning of the new quarter (or fiscal year).
So based on this I would expect the announcement would come at anytime and the transfer could occur on Tuesday October 1, 2007 or early January 2008.



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How is it that you are in a position to have knowledge about the acquisition of HLA?

I apologize for being vague, I have a fiduciary duty which prevents me from speaking in any specific terms in this area and can only comment on information which is first made public by either party involved,  this could be misconstrued as Tipping

Whooter made this statement several years ago and subsequently auctioned off his account, rendering him unable to change this information he wants nobody to see.  The fact is that he said it of his own volition and was bragging about it.  

The problem is that if everyone knows about this fiduciary duty, Whooter feels like five years of his time here posing as "just a regular parent" have been wasted, and indeed they are.

When I started quoting this post and linking to it, Whooter got increasingly more upset and now spends all day every day being my personal troll in various guises: Whooter, SUCK IT, Mitt Romney, Sarah Palin, John McCain, et al.

My purpose in quoting this damning statement is twofold: one, it exposes Whooter for who and what he really is, a figure whose income is derived from Aspen Education; and two, to draw him out of his carefully crafted image to expose him for the desperate Aspen Education troll he is.  Both objectives are complete.

Watch as Whooter logs in and out with his various sockpuppets, accusing me of abusing and raping children because he has been definitively linked to Aspen Education and its systemic abuse problems.  It's interesting to note also that Whooter accuses me of the very things that Aspen Education programs have been being shut down for recently. He is simply trying to project qualities onto me that have been legally proven against Aspen Education.

Industry people always squeal the loudest when they've been stuck in the wallet.  Look at this piggy squeal.

This is a desperate troll, folks.  Whooter/SUCK IT/et al is an exemplar of the people to whom you might have entrusted your child's welfare at Aspen Education programs.  If their marketing people behave this way, doesn't that provide a window into their corporate culture and strategy, as Ed Con Tom Croake recently exposed on his FamilyLights website?  Even Ed Cons who make their living referring kids to Aspen are turning on it due to their recent spate of killings, abuse and neglect resulting in facility closures. This is how Aspen Education employees behave in public.  Now just imagine how they behave in private, behind closed doors, alone with your child.  Think about that for a while.

Caveat emptor, parents.

I went into Whooter's administrative tools and gave myself "full control." :nods:

[Whooter]

Are you ashamed of this. DJ?  Why not explain why you lied?

Uh, yeah, like there's no industry types on Fornits.  Wait a sec...one of them is you, Mr. Aspen Fiduciary!

Remember when you claimed to have access to RB's treatment records via an HLA staff member on this board?  Or your true love, Ottawa5 whose stated goal was to open her "own program along the lines of CEDU"?  

Your explanation is laughable, troll boy :rofl: .

….. do you have LINKS to the original posts for all this material? Or are you just making this up as you go along?

Great catch, Ursus, you are on to his MO too I see.   I dont even know who Ottawa5 is.  I did a search on ottawa5 and it turns out that I never had any contact with this poster, not even one post! DJ is starting to lose it I think.  Why does he continue to make this stuff up?  What is the point?  No wonder he didnt provide links its all just fabricated.

Does anyone even know who this Ottawa5 poster is?




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[Whooter]

Whooter he does bring a good point regarding your post concerning a son and not a daughter. Can you explain this discrepancy?

Well take a look at your friend DJ’s post and see what is written:
Link to DJ's post

Then compare it to this post on an ASR chat board (Look at the 7th post)... Ha,Ha,Ha caught red handed again:

Link to ASR chat board

This is what your buddy Dysfunction Junction tries to pass along as proof.   He deals with deception and he has a burning need to try to discredit those who disagree with him.  The site was his link originally and he started referring to them and even started a thread based on them.  But when I referenced them he claims they were written by me.



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[Whooter]

All those years of you doing this to me, I have to admit it is fun!!!   lol

Well lets take a look at what is real or not.  Hmmmm...

Someone challenged your education history and you got pissed off and started editing and updating your history.

After you edited your posts you wrote this:  which is your education history:

DJ, On June 30, 2010 you posted this:

June 30 post on DJ's education

A few hours before you posted the above you went and cleaned up your history going back 5 years.  Here is an example.  Notice the edit stamp at the bottom says:

June 30, 2010

DJ cleaned up all his history going back 5 years

Another one!  Oh No! DJ was busy cleaning.

Why would you go back 5 years and start editing all your education history just before you posted an update if you have been honest all along?

Just asking.  Why do you accuse others of lying when you deceive the posters here on fornits for 5 years about yourself and education history.

Do you want to tell everyone why you left the industry?  Were you truthful about that too?  Did you have a change of heart or were you forced out because of background checks?  Do you want to take a  look at that next?

See anyone can play the same game you do, DJ.  You have just spent years fabricating an image under the user name Dysfunction junction.



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sting!!!!  wont go away.  lol

[RobertBruce]

Are you unwilling to answer the question Whooter?

Sure, right after DJ comes clean and explains why he lied about Ottawa5 being a friend of mine, why he fabricated posts and put my name on them, why he lied about his education, why he fabricated a PM with my user-name on it and why he previously admitted to abusing kids in programs and now is changing his mind, why he ended up in jail and lost his job at HLA.

After those are answered I will address your issues.  Okay Bob?  He is interested in my past posts, so I think it only fair that he come clean himself.


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Trying to force DJ to answering questions the way you want him to isn't going to amount to anything. It also has nothing to do with my questions to you regarding why you flood the boards.

That aside for the moment though, let me ask you this: Can you honestly claim that you have not done or treated others (myself included) with the exact same actions or manner that you're now accusing DJ of doing? Honestly, why begrudge or even attempt to hold someone else accountable for something you yourself have done on countless occasions?

[DannyB II]

Are you unwilling to answer the question Whooter?

Sure, right after DJ comes clean and explains why he lied about Ottawa5 being a friend of mine, why he fabricated posts and put my name on them, why he lied about his education, why he fabricated a PM with my user-name on it and why he previously admitted to abusing kids in programs and now is changing his mind, why he ended up in jail and lost his job at HLA.

After those are answered I will address your issues.  Okay Bob?  He is interested in my past posts, so I think it only fair that he come clean himself.


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Trying to force DJ to answering questions the way you want him to isn't going to amount to anything. It also has nothing to do with my questions to you regarding why you flood the boards.

That aside for the moment though, let me ask you this: Can you honestly claim that you have not done or treated others (myself included) with the exact same actions or manner that you're now accusing DJ of doing? Honestly, why begrudge or even attempt to hold someone else accountable for something you yourself have done on countless occasions?

Robert didn't I tell you a few days ago to stop with all this nonsense. Didn't I?.....
Nobody cares for your persona here, it is stupid and your not even Scottish.
Go away....now.

[Whooter]

Are you unwilling to answer the question Whooter?

Sure, right after DJ comes clean and explains why he lied about Ottawa5 being a friend of mine, why he fabricated posts and put my name on them, why he lied about his education, why he fabricated a PM with my user-name on it and why he previously admitted to abusing kids in programs and now is changing his mind, why he ended up in jail and lost his job at HLA.

After those are answered I will address your issues.  Okay Bob?  He is interested in my past posts, so I think it only fair that he come clean himself.


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Trying to force DJ to answering questions the way you want him to isn't going to amount to anything. It also has nothing to do with my questions to you regarding why you flood the boards.

That aside for the moment though, let me ask you this: Can you honestly claim that you have not done or treated others (myself included) with the exact same actions or manner that you're now accusing DJ of doing? Honestly, why begrudge or even attempt to hold someone else accountable for something you yourself have done on countless occasions?

Again, lets wait until DJ comes clean.  Look at the title of this thread ( and a few others)and try to tell the readers that DJ didnt flood the forum for years trying to build a case against me because I wouldnt agree with his thinking.


1.He fabricated posts and put my name on them.
2.  He lied about his education and when confronted cleaned up his history.
3. He fabricated a PM and put my user-name on it
4. He previously admitted to abusing kids in programs and now is changing his mind
5.He ended up in jail and lost his job at HLA, why?  Was it for child abuse?
6. He lied about Ottawa5 being a friend of mine and planning to open up a program together.
7.  He fabricated a post saying I admitted to working for a program.
8. He fabricated a post which stated I had a son at ASR.

See, your friend DJ, was being a prick all these years because he couldnt stand living a lie.  Telling everyone that all programs are abusive and having to live with the fact that he abused kids himself.  Taking a professional oath of protecting children and promising to report abuse, yet working at several programs himself and never saying anything to help all these kids that were being abused around him.
His logic and argument just falls apart around him as he keeps a white knuckled grip on all the strings that hold up the facade around him.  How can he change his mind and start telling us now he never abused a child and then say all programs are abusive?  If he had all this training and degrees he would know that he was obligated to call the department of social services the first day he walked through the door.

None of it adds up.



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[RobertBruce]

Again, lets wait until DJ comes clean. Look at the title of this thread ( and a few others)and try to tell the readers that DJ didnt flood the forum for years trying to build a case against me because I wouldnt agree with his thinking.


1.He fabricated posts and put my name on them.
2. He lied about his education and when confronted cleaned up his history.
3. He fabricated a PM and put my user-name on it
4. He previously admitted to abusing kids in programs and now is changing his mind
5.He ended up in jail and lost his job at HLA, why? Was it for child abuse?
6. He lied about Ottawa5 being a friend of mine and planning to open up a program together.
7. He fabricated a post saying I admitted to working for a program.

See, your friend DJ, was being a prick all these years because he couldnt stand living a lie. Telling everyone that all programs are abusive and having to live with the fact that he abused kids himself. Taking a professional oath of protecting children and promising to report abuse, yet working at several programs himself and never saying anything to help all these kids that were being abused around him.
His logic and argument just falls apart around him as he keeps a white knuckled grip on all the strings that hold up the facade around him. How can he change his mind and start telling us now he never abused a child and then say all programs are abusive? If he had all this training and degrees he would know that he was obligated to call the department of social services the first day he walked through the door.

None of it adds up.

Again though Whooter, can you honestly claim you haven't done similar actions yourself on here?

[Whooter]

Again, lets wait until DJ comes clean. Look at the title of this thread ( and a few others)and try to tell the readers that DJ didnt flood the forum for years trying to build a case against me because I wouldnt agree with his thinking.


1.He fabricated posts and put my name on them.
2. He lied about his education and when confronted cleaned up his history.
3. He fabricated a PM and put my user-name on it
4. He previously admitted to abusing kids in programs and now is changing his mind
5.He ended up in jail and lost his job at HLA, why? Was it for child abuse?
6. He lied about Ottawa5 being a friend of mine and planning to open up a program together.
7. He fabricated a post saying I admitted to working for a program.

See, your friend DJ, was being a prick all these years because he couldnt stand living a lie. Telling everyone that all programs are abusive and having to live with the fact that he abused kids himself. Taking a professional oath of protecting children and promising to report abuse, yet working at several programs himself and never saying anything to help all these kids that were being abused around him.
His logic and argument just falls apart around him as he keeps a white knuckled grip on all the strings that hold up the facade around him. How can he change his mind and start telling us now he never abused a child and then say all programs are abusive? If he had all this training and degrees he would know that he was obligated to call the department of social services the first day he walked through the door.

None of it adds up.

Again though Whooter, can you honestly claim you haven't done similar actions yourself on here?

Again, lets wait until DJ comes clean, then I will answer your questions.  Look at the title of this thread ( and a few others)and try to tell the readers that DJ didnt flood the forum for years trying to build a case against me because I wouldnt agree with his thinking.


1.He fabricated posts and put my name on them.
2.  He lied about his education and when confronted cleaned up his history.
3. He fabricated a PM and put my user-name on it
4. He previously admitted to abusing kids in programs and now is changing his mind
5.He ended up in jail and lost his job at HLA, why?  Was it for child abuse?
6. He lied about Ottawa5 being a friend of mine and planning to open up a program together.
7.  He fabricated a post saying I admitted to working for a program.
8. He fabricated a post which stated I had a son at ASR.

See, your friend DJ, was being a prick all these years because he couldnt stand living a lie.  Telling everyone that all programs are abusive and having to live with the fact that he abused kids himself.  Taking a professional oath of protecting children and promising to report abuse, yet working at several programs himself and never saying anything to help all these kids that were being abused around him.
His logic and argument just falls apart around him as he keeps a white knuckled grip on all the strings that hold up the facade around him.  How can he change his mind and start telling us now he never abused a child and then say all programs are abusive?  If he had all this training and degrees he would know that he was obligated to call the department of social services the first day he walked through the door.

None of it adds up.



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