Cataloging TheWho/John Reuben's Lies

[Whooter]

Lets take a look at the education post that DJ fabricated for himself.  Let me see if I can dig it up.




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[Troll Control]

Butt-hurt troll, Whooter, gets caught in another whopper while holding it out as "proof" I "fabricated" it.  Links and all...

Whoops, DJ, caught in another lie.  DJ's MO is falsifying posts to make it seem like I wrote them.  You should ask him to show you a post where Ottawa5 and I were speaking together... hint  (it doesnt exist).  I can show you that one later.

Whooter he does bring a good point regarding your post concerning a son and not a daughter. Can you explain this discrepancy?

Well take a look at your friend DJ’s post and see what is written:
Link to DJ's post

Then compare it to this post on an ASR chat board (Look at the 7th post)... Ha,Ha,Ha caught red handed again:

Link to ASR chat board

This is what your buddy Dysfunction Junction tries to pass along as proof.   He deals with deception and he has a burning need to try to discredit those who disagree with him.  The site was his link originally and he started referring to them and even started a thread based on them.  But when I referenced them he claims they were written by me.  

Link

Lol, this is a good one, Whooter.

Whooter's OP, Fri Aug 06, 2010 10:09 am.

I know it's hard to choose a school or program when your kid is in a crisis and you don't see any other alternative. You kind of have to go on your gut feeling, after doing all the checking and questioning possible. ASR wasn't perfect, but I believe they save our son's life. Overall we were pleased, ...  Read more but there were some things we wish had gone smoother. He got his education, lots of therapy, both private and group, learned how to get along with others and had many experiences unique to ASR. Plus there were many recreational and other non-curricular activities. He clearly needed to be there for at least 14 months. The staff was terrific and communication mostly good. We were very involved in the therapuetic proces.




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My response, Fri Aug 06, 2010 10:18 am.

Then WhooterEDITS THE POST: Last edited by Whooter on Fri Aug 06, 2010 11:45 am, edited 2 times in total.  

Then goes on to say I "fabricated" his quote.  This guy is greasy lying weasel, but hey, all you have to do is look at the OP's and everyone can see exactly who's lying and who isn't.  

Nice try, douche.  Got any more you'd like me to address?

Whooter posts at 10:09, I quote it and link to it at 10:18 then Whooter edits it twice by 11:45 and starts claiming I "fabricated" it.  You can't make it up, folks!

[Pile of Dead Kids]

Dig this up instead.

[Joel]

Edited: Wednesday, October 06, 2010

[Whooter]

Are you ashamed of this. DJ?  Why not explain why you lied?

Uh, yeah, like there's no industry types on Fornits.  Wait a sec...one of them is you, Mr. Aspen Fiduciary!

Remember when you claimed to have access to RB's treatment records via an HLA staff member on this board?  Or your true love, Ottawa5 whose stated goal was to open her "own program along the lines of CEDU"?  

Your explanation is laughable, troll boy :rofl: .

….. do you have LINKS to the original posts for all this material? Or are you just making this up as you go along?

Great catch, Ursus, you are on to his MO too I see.   I dont even know who Ottawa5 is.  I did a search on ottawa5 and it turns out that I never had any contact with this poster, not even one post! DJ is starting to lose it I think.  Why does he continue to make this stuff up?  What is the point?  No wonder he didnt provide links its all just fabricated.

Does anyone even know who this Ottawa5 poster is?




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[Whooter]

All those years of you doing this to me, I have to admit it is fun!!!   lol

Well lets take a look at what is real or not.  Hmmmm...

Someone challenged your education history and you got pissed off and started editing and updating your history.

After you edited your posts you wrote this:  which is your education history:

DJ, On June 30, 2010 you posted this:

June 30 post on DJ's education

A few hours before you posted the above you went and cleaned up your history going back 5 years.  Here is an example.  Notice the edit stamp at the bottom says:

June 30, 2010

DJ cleaned up all his history going back 5 years

Another one!  Oh No! DJ was busy cleaning.

Why would you go back 5 years and start editing all your education history just before you posted an update if you have been honest all along?

Just asking.  Why do you accuse others of lying when you deceive the posters here on fornits for 5 years about yourself and education history.

Do you want to tell everyone why you left the industry?  Were you truthful about that too?  Did you have a change of heart or were you forced out because of background checks?  Do you want to take a  look at that next?

See anyone can play the same game you do, DJ.  You have just spent years fabricating an image under the user name Dysfunction junction.



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sting!!!!  wont go away.  lol

[Troll Control]

Whoops!  Whooter is caught blatantly altering the very post he claims I altered.  Ursus even pinched you for it and linked back to his own OP that you jacked up.  Oh, you're a fucking genius, Whooter.  Quit while you're behind, crybaby.

Uh, yeah, like there's no industry types on Fornits.  Wait a sec...one of them is you, Mr. Aspen Fiduciary!

Remember when you claimed to have access to RB's treatment records via an HLA staff member on this board?  Or your true love, Ottawa5 whose stated goal was to open her "own program along the lines of CEDU"?  

Your explanation is laughable, troll boy :rofl: .

….. do you have LINKS to the original posts for all this material? Or are you just making this up as you go along?

Good Catch, Ursus.  Links are not his strength it appears.
ouch!!!  lol

Actually, Whooter, my post was in response to your posting of various falacious Dysfunction Junction posts which apparently are the sole creation of your imagination. Moreover, my original quote, before you altered it, read as follows:

Whooter, do you have LINKS to the original posts for all this material? Or are you just making this up as you go along?

PLUS... Your original reply to my post, before you altered it, read as follows:

Whooter, do you have LINKS to the original posts for all this material? Or are you just making this up as you go along?

Sure, just like everyone else.

:twofinger:  :notworthy:  :suicide:

[Whooter]

Are you ashamed of this. DJ?  Why not explain why you lied?

Uh, yeah, like there's no industry types on Fornits.  Wait a sec...one of them is you, Mr. Aspen Fiduciary!

Remember when you claimed to have access to RB's treatment records via an HLA staff member on this board?  Or your true love, Ottawa5 whose stated goal was to open her "own program along the lines of CEDU"?  

Your explanation is laughable, troll boy :rofl: .

….. do you have LINKS to the original posts for all this material? Or are you just making this up as you go along?

Great catch, Ursus, you are on to his MO too I see.   I dont even know who Ottawa5 is.  I did a search on ottawa5 and it turns out that I never had any contact with this poster, not even one post! DJ is starting to lose it I think.  Why does he continue to make this stuff up?  What is the point?  No wonder he didnt provide links its all just fabricated.

Does anyone even know who this Ottawa5 poster is?




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[Whooter]

All those years of you doing this to me, I have to admit it is fun!!!   lol

Well lets take a look at what is real or not.  Hmmmm...

Someone challenged your education history and you got pissed off and started editing and updating your history.

After you edited your posts you wrote this:  which is your education history:

DJ, On June 30, 2010 you posted this:

June 30 post on DJ's education

A few hours before you posted the above you went and cleaned up your history going back 5 years.  Here is an example.  Notice the edit stamp at the bottom says:

June 30, 2010

DJ cleaned up all his history going back 5 years

Another one!  Oh No! DJ was busy cleaning.

Why would you go back 5 years and start editing all your education history just before you posted an update if you have been honest all along?

Just asking.  Why do you accuse others of lying when you deceive the posters here on fornits for 5 years about yourself and education history.

Do you want to tell everyone why you left the industry?  Were you truthful about that too?  Did you have a change of heart or were you forced out because of background checks?  Do you want to take a  look at that next?

See anyone can play the same game you do, DJ.  You have just spent years fabricating an image under the user name Dysfunction junction.



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sting!!!!  wont go away.  lol

[Whooter]

How was I suppose to figure out that Wilderness programs run an average of 2 weeks and cost $6,000 and TBS’s run an average of 12 – 16 months and cost 70,000 – to -$100,000.  If I knew that,  then yeah I could agree that the TBS was "where the real money is".

I thought you said you had a Masters in Business Administration? MBA

Screw you whootie, I have more degrees than you do.  Your an industry shill.  I could have figured out the math too because yes I did get my MBA, its just that my calculator on my laptop is not functioning.

Look, DJ, calm down.  You are the one claiming that I must have all this inside knowledge because I can figure out that TBS's cost more than Wilderness therapy.  I just did the math for you thats all.  If you feel only industry people have that type of knowledge than that is your right to think that way.  I just think your wrong thats all.  Any person claiming to have an MBA should be able to figure where the real money is between TBS and Wilderness.

Just stating my opinion, thats all.



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[Whooter]

DJ, anyone can do what you do.  We just dont chose to do it.  You have been trolling here on fornits for years and finally you are getting a taste of your own.  We forced you to log in and you chose not to partake in any conversations, now look at the crap that you post all day.  You claim to have all this education yet you cannot have a civil conversation about the industry you claimed to have worked in (on any level except to discredit other posters).

Fact One: This post shows Dysfunction Junction worked at Daytop at one time. It also shows that he had a felony conviction and prison sentance.

Fact Two: He no longer works in the TBS field. According to him he got disillusioned with the industry. I suspect he isn't allowed to be employed by them with a previous felony conviction as most TBS's do background checks for most of their employees usually.

I'll bust your fucking teeth down your throat, choke you until you nearly fall unconscious, then give you a wake-up kick to the temple and send you on your merry way.  Your pain, suffering and disfigurement wouldn't matter .......

Look, DJ, you dont need to threaten everyone that disagrees with you.  I think we all know that if it were not for your criminal past that you would still be working in the TT industry instead of posting here on fornits to establish a resume that doesnt exist in real life.  Maybe when you took this anger of yours out on the kids is why HLA decide to release you.  I believe you have a past post where you admitted this unless you edited it out all ready.



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[Troll Control]

I demand that Whooter posts several spams, right now!  Make it so...   :rofl:

[Whooter]

I demand that Whooter posts several spams, right now!  Make it so...   :rofl:

Sorry, DJ,  you cannot control everyone.  You spent years trolling those who disagreed with you and now you have lost the ability to even have a conversation.  It is sad actually.

Why not create another thread about John Reubens lies or thewhos lies!!!  lol  and then call everyone else a troll!!!



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[Pile of Dead Kids]

So, Whooter, if you'd like to have a conversation, tell us- how much money did you make from Aspen, directly or indirectly, so far?

[Troll Control]

I demand that Whooter posts several spams, right now!  Make it so...   :rofl:

Sorry, DJ,  you cannot control everyone.  You spent years trolling those who disagreed with you and now you have lost the ability to even have a conversation.  It is sad actually.

Why not create another thread about John Reubens lies or thewhos lies!!!  lol  and then call everyone else a troll!!!



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So says the controllee to the contoller, right on cue.  Brilliant!  You WILL post again in 30 seconds.  I don't care if you need a rest.  You'll do as I say you'll do.

This is the plain and simple statement, written by Whooter, that has set off this spate of trolling due to its reposting by me:

When is this supposed to take place?

Well the  announcement takes place after the lawyers sign off on the deal, but they usually wait until the transfer is ready to take place.
The legal transfer typically takes place at the beginning of the new quarter (or fiscal year).
So based on this I would expect the announcement would come at anytime and the transfer could occur on Tuesday October 1, 2007 or early January 2008.



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How is it that you are in a position to have knowledge about the acquisition of HLA?

I apologize for being vague, I have a fiduciary duty which prevents me from speaking in any specific terms in this area and can only comment on information which is first made public by either party involved,  this could be misconstrued as Tipping

Whooter made this statement several years ago and subsequently auctioned off his account, rendering him unable to change this information he wants nobody to see.  The fact is that he said it of his own volition and was bragging about it.  

The problem is that if everyone knows about this fiduciary duty, Whooter feels like five years of his time here posing as "just a regular parent" have been wasted, and indeed they are.

When I started quoting this post and linking to it, Whooter got increasingly more upset and now spends all day every day being my personal troll in various guises: Whooter, SUCK IT, Mitt Romney, Sarah Palin, John McCain, et al.

My purpose in quoting this damning statement is twofold: one, it exposes Whooter for who and what he really is, a figure whose income is derived from Aspen Education; and two, to draw him out of his carefully crafted image to expose him for the desperate Aspen Education troll he is.  Both objectives are complete.

Watch as Whooter logs in and out with his various sockpuppets, accusing me of abusing and raping children because he has been definitively linked to Aspen Education and its systemic abuse problems.  It's interesting to note also that Whooter accuses me of the very things that Aspen Education programs have been being shut down for recently. He is simply trying to project qualities onto me that have been legally proven against Aspen Education.

Industry people always squeal the loudest when they've been stuck in the wallet.  Look at this piggy squeal.

This is a desperate troll, folks.  Whooter/SUCK IT/et al is an exemplar of the people to whom you might have entrusted your child's welfare at Aspen Education programs.  If their marketing people behave this way, doesn't that provide a window into their corporate culture and strategy, as Ed Con Tom Croake recently exposed on his FamilyLights website?  Even Ed Cons who make their living referring kids to Aspen are turning on it due to their recent spate of killings, abuse and neglect resulting in facility closures. This is how Aspen Education employees behave in public.  Now just imagine how they behave in private, behind closed doors, alone with your child.  Think about that for a while.

Caveat emptor, parents.