John D. Reuben and SavingTeens.org

[Whooter]

Using Mikey's obit as a marketing tool for STICC:

REUBEN, Michael Joshua Age 22, of Sudbury, MA. Beloved son of John D. Reuben. Brother of Max H. Reuben. Musician, artist and sales executive. We will miss our child and the young man he became. Addiction was the illness that took him, but never the essence of who he was. Also survived by his loving grandmother, and numerous dear aunts, uncles, cousins and friends, including the Abreu and Reuben/Glanzman families of Somerville and the Frias family of Hudson. Donations may be made in his memory to: Saving Teens in Crisis Collaborative, a non-profit organization founded by John Reuben to assist troubled teens and their families struggling with substance abuse and other emotional issues. http://www.savingteens.org <http://www.savingteens.org/> P.O. Box 441363, West Somerville, MA 02144

John ran several paid obit's accross the country, each one used as a donation portal for the TTI.

If you dont feel up for donating then get yourself some unbiased information (or at least check out an opposing view):

Independent "Book" on the Industry

[Anonymous]

John D. Reuben is a wanna-be EdCon 'who' started a business making referrals to known abusive programs.  He has linked up with some of the most familiar bogeymen of the TTI such as Lon Woodbury, Martha Kolbe and many others, like NATSAP and Aspen Education.

John's son, 'who' was forced into two abusive programs, SUWS and ASR, did not receive the help he desperately needed from the unlicensed, unseducated staff of SUWS and ASR, but he was able to make it through, getting out at age 18.  Since the boy's legitimate psychological issues were never addressed while he was detained by for-profit quacks, his family bond was destroyed and when he came home from ASR he estranged himself from John and went back to his old behaviors (as almost every teen does after being detained by quacks) and got much more deeply into much harder drugs, turning to heroin to get his fix and escape from his terrible problems that his father refused to seek legitimate treatment for.

Eventually Michael Joshua Reuben overdosed on heroin and died due to his father's neglect in his time of need.

John's son Max H. Reuben is also a program veteran, but John declines to say which program.

Please lend your support in researching John's connections to the TTI and those of his firm STICC.

John, if you had followed sound medical advice, Mike would still be with us today.  Max, although still living, is deeply scarred by his experiences that you forced him into.  Now you want other people to follow your example which leads to psychological destruction or even death.  John used paid death notices in newspapers accross the country to draw attention to STICC and to get donations to send other kids to SUWS and ASR, a particularly misguided and disgusting thing to do.

Thank you to Mike's roommate [name withheld] who sought me out to tell Mike's story here and ask us here at Fornits to try to cripple STICC as a referral source to programs that verifiably kill children and are 100% ineffective.

R.I.P., Mike.  Your dad let you down, but your friends love you eternally.   :peace:

Please add your thoughts to this topic.

[Whooter]

John D. Reuben is a wanna-be EdCon 'who' started a business making referrals to known abusive programs.  He has linked up with some of the most familiar bogeymen of the TTI such as Lon Woodbury, Martha Kolbe and many others, like NATSAP and Aspen Education.

John's son, 'who' was forced into two abusive programs, SUWS and ASR, did not receive the help he desperately needed from the unlicensed, unseducated staff of SUWS and ASR, but he was able to make it through, getting out at age 18.  Since the boy's legitimate psychological issues were never addressed while he was detained by for-profit quacks, his family bond was destroyed and when he came home from ASR he estranged himself from John and went back to his old behaviors (as almost every teen does after being detained by quacks) and got much more deeply into much harder drugs, turning to heroin to get his fix and escape from his terrible problems that his father refused to seek legitimate treatment for.

Eventually Michael Joshua Reuben overdosed on heroin and died due to his father's neglect in his time of need.

John's son Max H. Reuben is also a program veteran, but John declines to say which program.

Please lend your support in researching John's connections to the TTI and those of his firm STICC.

John, if you had followed sound medical advice, Mike would still be with us today.  Max, although still living, is deeply scarred by his experiences that you forced him into.  Now you want other people to follow your example which leads to psychological destruction or even death.  John used paid death notices in newspapers accross the country to draw attention to STICC and to get donations to send other kids to SUWS and ASR, a particularly misguided and disgusting thing to do.

Thank you to Mike's roommate [name withheld] who sought me out to tell Mike's story here and ask us here at Fornits to try to cripple STICC as a referral source to programs that verifiably kill children and are 100% ineffective.

R.I.P., Mike.  Your dad let you down, but your friends love you eternally.   :peace:

Please add your thoughts to this topic:

Whooter

[Anonymous]

"In 2004, when I found out Michael had drug problems, I founded Saving Teens in Crisis Collaborative to help disadvantaged youths participate in programs too expensive for them."

John, when you discovered Mike had a drug problem, instead of founding STICC to help other kids, you should have supported your son by getting him medically-based treatment for his drug problem.  Why would anyone faced with this situation start a business instead of focusing on their own child's problem?  Don't you see that your refusal to get directly involved in Mike's life is what drove him to drugs in the first place?  Then your solution to this was to have him locked up instead of put into scientifically proven therapy?

John, is this one of the "STICCy results that last a lifetime"?  I guess it is if "lifetime" means "22 years."

[Whooter]

"In 2004, when I found out Michael had drug problems, I founded Saving Teens in Crisis Collaborative to help disadvantaged youths participate in programs too expensive for them."

John, when you discovered Mike had a drug problem, instead of founding STICCto help other kids, you should have supported your son by getting him medically-based treatment for his drug problem.  Why would anyone faced with this situation start a business instead of focusing on their own child's problem?  Don't you see that your refusal to get directly involved in Mike's life is what drove him to drugs in the first place?  Then your solution to this was to have him locked up instead of put into scientifically proven therapy?

John, is this one of the "SICCy results that last a lifetime"?  I guess it is if "lifetime" means "22 years."

[Whooter]

Ha,Ha,Ha

[Anonymous]

From: John Reuben [mailto:jreuben@savingteens.org] Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2008 10:16 PMTo: VentureFuel@msn.com
Subject: Passing Away Of My Son Michael

Friends & Associates,Many of you may have already heard about the passing of my son, Michael, this past weekend as the result of substance abuse related issues. As much as I have tried these many years, I could not help Mike escape the grip of his drugs of choice. And now I am faced with a void in my life that will be impossible to replace.Substance abuse is a horrid disease, a plague on our society. In 2004 I realized that my son had this problem and looked for a constructive way to channel my energies from worrying about my son. I formed a non-profit called Saving Teens In Crisis Collaborative (STICC) to help disadvantaged families with their children.

This is when TheWho's research into teen programming really began.  He trolled Fornits as a way to avoid "worrying about (his) son."  Somehow I doubt all of this trolling will bring any kind of resolution for TheWho.

Anyway, this is the timeline for TheWho's arrival on Fornits, which became full-blown incessant, vapid trolling soon thereafter, culminating in directly attacking a kid who was abused at HLA, a favorite program of his key associate, Martha Kolbe, who continues to refer children to the abusive teen shitpit to this day.

Personally, I wouldn't be seeking help from a man with no conscience or morals, like John.  Reading his posts here make me cringe and some make me feel sick to my stomach from the rationalization of hurting kids to 'help' them.

[Whooter]

Ha,Ha,Ha

[Troll Control]

From: John Reuben [mailto:jreuben@savingteens.org] Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2008 10:16 PMTo: VentureFuel@msn.com
Subject: Passing Away Of My Son Michael

Friends & Associates,Many of you may have already heard about the passing of my son, Michael, this past weekend as the result of substance abuse related issues. As much as I have tried these many years, I could not help Mike escape the grip of his drugs of choice. And now I am faced with a void in my life that will be impossible to replace.Substance abuse is a horrid disease, a plague on our society. In 2004 I realized that my son had this problem and looked for a constructive way to channel my energies from worrying about my son. I formed a non-profit called Saving Teens In Crisis Collaborative (STICC) to help disadvantaged families with their children.

This is when TheWho's research into teen programming really began.  He trolled Fornits as a way to avoid "worrying about (his) son."  Somehow I doubt all of this trolling will bring any kind of resolution for TheWho.

Anyway, this is the timeline for TheWho's arrival on Fornits, which became full-blown incessant, vapid trolling soon thereafter, culminating in directly attacking a kid who was abused at HLA, a favorite program of his key associate, Martha Kolbe, who continues to refer children to the abusive teen shitpit to this day.

Personally, I wouldn't be seeking help from a man with no conscience or morals, like John.  Reading his posts here make me cringe and some make me feel sick to my stomach from the rationalization of hurting kids to 'help' them.

Apparently, TheWho thinks this child's sad death is funny.  I don't.  Please don't degrade his memory with childish link-spamming.

[Whooter]

From: John Reuben [mailto:jreuben@savingteens.org] Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2008 10:16 PMTo: VentureFuel@msn.com
Subject: Passing Away Of My Son Michael

Friends & Associates,Many of you may have already heard about the passing of my son, Michael, this past weekend as the result of substance abuse related issues. As much as I have tried these many years, I could not help Mike escape the grip of his drugs of choice. And now I am faced with a void in my life that will be impossible to replace.Substance abuse is a horrid disease, a plague on our society. In 2004 I realized that my son had this problem and looked for a constructive way to channel my energies from worrying about my son. I formed a non-profit called Saving Teens In Crisis Collaborative (STICC) to help disadvantaged families with their children.

This is when TheWho's research into teen programming really began.  He trolled Fornits as a way to avoid "worrying about (his) son."  Somehow I doubt all of this trolling will bring any kind of resolution for TheWho.

Anyway, this is the timeline for TheWho's arrival on Fornits, which became full-blown incessant, vapid trolling soon thereafter, culminating in directly attacking a kid who was abused at HLA, a favorite program of his key associate, Martha Kolbe, who continues to refer children to the abusive teen shitpit to this day.

Personally, I wouldn't be seeking help from a man with no conscience or morals, like John.  Reading his posts here make me cringe and some make me feel sick to my stomach from the rationalization of hurting kids to 'help' them.

Apparently, TheWho thinks this child's sad death is funny.  I don't.  Please don't degrade his memory with childish link-spamming.

[Whooter]

Try not to get upset on what is being said so much.  Lets just try to maximize the number of hits on Dave Marcus' blog.  You wouldn’t believe how this has increased over the past 2 days.
Lets all try to keep this thread at the top (or at least top 10).  If you don’t have anything to add just type Bump.

[Anonymous]

John D. Reuben is a wanna-be EdCon 'who' started a business making referrals to known abusive programs.  He has linked up with some of the most familiar bogeymen of the TTI such as Lon Woodbury, Martha Kolbe and many others, like NATSAP and Aspen Education.

John's son, 'who' was forced into two abusive programs, SUWS and ASR, did not receive the help he desperately needed from the unlicensed, unseducated staff of SUWS and ASR, but he was able to make it through, getting out at age 18.  Since the boy's legitimate psychological issues were never addressed while he was detained by for-profit quacks, his family bond was destroyed and when he came home from ASR he estranged himself from John and went back to his old behaviors (as almost every teen does after being detained by quacks) and got much more deeply into much harder drugs, turning to heroin to get his fix and escape from his terrible problems that his father refused to seek legitimate treatment for.

Eventually Michael Joshua Reuben overdosed on heroin and died due to his father's neglect in his time of need.

John's son Max H. Reuben is also a program veteran, but John declines to say which program.

Please lend your support in researching John's connections to the TTI and those of his firm STICC.

John, if you had followed sound medical advice, Mike would still be with us today.  Max, although still living, is deeply scarred by his experiences that you forced him into.  Now you want other people to follow your example which leads to psychological destruction or even death.  John used paid death notices in newspapers accross the country to draw attention to STICC and to get donations to send other kids to SUWS and ASR, a particularly misguided and disgusting thing to do.

Thank you to Mike's roommate [name withheld] who sought me out to tell Mike's story here and ask us here at Fornits to try to cripple STICC as a referral source to programs that verifiably kill children and are 100% ineffective.

R.I.P., Mike.  Your dad let you down, but your friends love you eternally.   :peace:

Please add your thoughts to this topic.

[Whooter]

John D. Reuben is a wanna-be EdCon 'who' started a business making referrals to known abusive programs.  He has linked up with some of the most familiar bogeymen of the TTI such as Lon Woodbury, Martha Kolbe and many others, like NATSAP and Aspen Education.

John's son, 'who' was forced into two abusive programs, SUWS and ASR, did not receive the help he desperately needed from the unlicensed, unseducated staff of SUWS and ASR, but he was able to make it through, getting out at age 18.  Since the boy's legitimate psychological issues were never addressed while he was detained by for-profit quacks, his family bond was destroyed and when he came home from ASR he estranged himself from John and went back to his old behaviors (as almost every teen does after being detained by quacks) and got much more deeply into much harder drugs, turning to heroin to get his fix and escape from his terrible problems that his father refused to seek legitimate treatment for.

Eventually Michael Joshua Reuben overdosed on heroin and died due to his father's neglect in his time of need.

John's son Max H. Reuben is also a program veteran, but John declines to say which program.

Please lend your support in researching John's connections to the TTI and those of his firm STICC.

John, if you had followed sound medical advice, Mike would still be with us today.  Max, although still living, is deeply scarred by his experiences that you forced him into.  Now you want other people to follow your example which leads to psychological destruction or even death.  John used paid death notices in newspapers accross the country to draw attention to STICC and to get donations to send other kids to SUWS and ASR, a particularly misguided and disgusting thing to do.

Thank you to Mike's roommate [name withheld] who sought me out to tell Mike's story here and ask us here at Fornits to try to cripple STICC as a referral source to programs that verifiably kill children and are 100% ineffective.

R.I.P., Mike.  Your dad let you down, but your friends love you eternally.   :peace:

Please add your thoughts to this topic:

Whooter

[Anonymous]

The depths of your callousness and deflection never cease to amaze me. I hope that this shit is so tagged that anyone looking up this cold, opportunistic asshole sees him for what he is. A calculating businessman willing to exploit his own sons death to his financial advantage. How much lower can you go?

I don't think the question was ever answered as to whether or not this kid was allowed to attend his mother's funeral. Was he? What is the status of the other kid?

[Whooter]

The depths of your callousness and deflection never cease to amaze me. I hope that this shit is so tagged that anyone looking up this cold, opportunistic asshole sees him for what he is. A calculating businessman willing to exploit his own sons death to his financial advantage. How much lower can you go?

I don't think the question was ever answered as to whether or not this Kid was allowed to attend his mother's funeral. Was he? What is the status of the other kid?

Its great that we are working together on this.  You want to keep it tagged so that people will see his name on the Google search and enter this thread.  You may even get Rueben himself to visit fornits which would be interesting.
But I have recently found that the top threads  under the “new posts” button get an incredible number of first time hits so I will be tagging your posts with the links back to DaveMarcus.com.  This will not interfere with your quest and will in fact help move this thread further up the Google chain (win,win), you help me I'll help you.  Lets try to keep this in the top 10 and I'll count the hits I get on the other end against how high it is on the "New Post" list.

As far as the kid attending the funeral a friend mentioned that he did attend.  It was in the HLA forum I believe.
http://www.davemarcus.com/content/what-it-takes-pull-me-through-about-book