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Re: CALO Ropes Course
« Reply #30 on: June 19, 2009, 07:45:29 PM »
I've got a ropes course for CALO.

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Re: CALO Ropes Course
« Reply #31 on: June 19, 2009, 10:08:04 PM »
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Did some reading up on ropes courses and here is what I found"

Purpose
Ropes course programs can be designed to meet a number of educational, developmental, and recreational goals. High ropes course and climbing programs generally focus on personal achievements and ask participants to confront their personal fears and anxieties. Challenges may be physical and/or emotional. In certain cases, high element programs involve the development and mastery of technical skills to manage rope belay systems used to secure other climbers as they move through the course. In such cases, outcomes often include exploring the fundamentals of trust, craftsmanship, and coaching. Programs using low ropes course elements or group initiatives are most often designed to explore group interaction, problem-solving, and leadership. Some of the commonly claimed outcomes include enhancement of:
•   Cooperation
•   Decision making
•   Self confidence
•   Positive Risk Taking
•   Cohesion
•   Trust
•   Self esteem
•   Leadership
•   Goal setting
•   Teamwork

Did some reading on sex. Here is what I found:

10 Surprising Health Benefits of Sex
The health benefits of sex extend well beyond the bedroom. Turns out sex is good for you in ways you may never have imagined.
By Kathleen Doheny
WebMD FeatureReviewed by Louise Chang, MDWhen you're in the mood, it's a sure bet that the last thing on your mind is boosting your immune system or maintaining a healthy weight. Yet good sex offers those health benefits and more.

That's a surprise to many people, says Joy Davidson, PhD, a New York psychologist and sex therapist. "Of course, sex is everywhere in the media," she says. "But the idea that we are vital, sexual creatures is still looked at in some cases with disgust or in other cases a bit of embarrassment. So to really take a look at how our sexuality adds to our life and enhances our life and our health, both physical and psychological, is eye-opening for many people."

Sex does a body good in a number of ways, according to Davidson and other experts. The benefits aren't just anecdotal or hearsay -- each of these 10 health benefits of sex is backed by scientific scrutiny.

Among the benefits of healthy loving in a relationship:

1. Sex Relieves Stress
A big health benefit of sex is lower blood pressure and overall stress reduction, according to researchers from Scotland who reported their findings in the journal Biological Psychology. They studied 24 women and 22 men who kept records of their sexual activity. Then the researchers subjected them to stressful situations -- such as speaking in public and doing verbal arithmetic -- and noted their blood pressure response to stress.

Those who had intercourse had better responses to stress than those who engaged in other sexual behaviors or abstained.

Another study published in the same journal found that frequent intercourse was associated with lower diastolic blood pressure in cohabiting participants. Yet other research found a link between partner hugs and lower blood pressure in women.

2. Sex Boosts Immunity
Good sexual health may mean better physical health. Having sex once or twice a week has been linked with higher levels of an antibody called immunoglobulin A or IgA, which can protect you from getting colds and other infections. Scientists at Wilkes University in Wilkes-Barre, Pa., took samples of saliva, which contain IgA, from 112 college students who reported the frequency of sex they had.

Those in the "frequent" group -- once or twice a week -- had higher levels of IgA than those in the other three groups -- who reported being abstinent, having sex less than once a week, or having it very often, three or more times weekly.

3. Sex Burns Calories
Thirty minutes of sex burns 85 calories or more. It may not sound like much, but it adds up: 42 half-hour sessions will burn 3,570 calories, more than enough to lose a pound. Doubling up, you could drop that pound in 21 hour-long sessions.

"Sex is a great mode of exercise," says Patti Britton, PhD, a Los Angeles sexologist and president of the American Association of Sexuality Educators and Therapists. It takes work, from both a physical and psychological perspective, to do it well, she says.


That sex can be "healthy" does not make it therapy. Likewise, that ropes courses can be “healthy” does not make them therapy. CALO pretending "ropes courses" constitutes therapy is fraudulent.

 Further, sex or ropes courses are “healthy” depending on their CONTEXT. For example, if one is forced to have sex, its "health benefits" are neutralized. Likewise, if one is forced to traverse a ropes course, or does it in the context of being a prisoner in a gulag, its "health benefits" are neutralized. In fact, depending on the context of these activities, they can be seriously psychologically or physically damaging.
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Re: CALO Ropes Course
« Reply #32 on: June 20, 2009, 12:24:47 AM »
"That sex can be "healthy" does not make it therapy"
Except as practiced by sex therapists.
Ropes courses are fun and perhaps healthy, and not necessarily therapeutic. But recreational therapists can use them therapeutically.

But perhaps you are confused. Are you concerned that ropes might be being used in sex therapy?
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Re: CALO Ropes Course
« Reply #33 on: June 20, 2009, 12:39:00 AM »
Ropes courses can be used for a lot of things. They are merely one part of the regime offered at CALO. Call it one tool in their box of torture implements. Let me browse my survivor list and I'll see if anyone has stories about restraints/wrist locks and other regroupings/punishments resulted from the ropes course.

The key thing to remember here is Ropes course really can be good for anyone in the right place, with the right people, and if you have the right motivation for doing one.

I did one along time ago and I mostly cured my fear of heights. I also learned to trust others a bit more.

Not much mind you.

However, I went willingly and there were no consequences attached to the ropes course. I'd bet money that CALO has all sorts of things attached to the completion of the ropes course.

such as:

Don't complete it you don't advance..

Don't do this you get this..

etc..

That's not doing something voluntarily..

That's being forced to do it by threats.

That kills any possible good that can come out of it.


BTW.. a ropes course isn't a substitute for proper therapy. If you have an actual psychological issue go see a real shrink.
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Re: CALO Ropes Course
« Reply #34 on: June 21, 2009, 09:30:52 PM »
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I'm not the one who posted the link to a soft-porn foto on this thread! So save it, asshole.
Liar. You did so with the intention of setting up your posting that very jackass inquiry. You muckraking liar. Just because Ywohu0 don’t see how obvious you are doesn’t mean others can’t spot it.[/quote][/quote][/quote][/quote]

Can you translate that into literate English, please?
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Re: CALO Ropes Course
« Reply #35 on: June 21, 2009, 10:20:50 PM »
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Re: CALO Ropes Course
« Reply #36 on: June 22, 2009, 12:12:22 AM »
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Re: CALO Ropes Course
« Reply #37 on: June 22, 2009, 01:50:49 PM »
I'm all for getting TBS's/RTC's shut down but you guys are just plain dumb and make this forum look stupid with this particular thread.

When you are on the ropes course, staff is belleying you from the ground. you are in a harness attatched through a rope that runs through a pulley down to someone else in a harness who is clipped into the ground/wall/tree. it's climbing 101. the pictures dont show staff because the staff is on the ground. and technically, you dont even need staff to be the ones on the ground connected to you, any student with minimal instruction can handle the task. i was belleying my 180lb+ family members on rock walls since i was a <100lb eight year old. you can get lifted off the ground when ppl fall but your clipped in so it's not big deal, it's kinda fun and amusing actually.

those pics dont show the ground, therefore not the staff.

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What is with every for-profit, extra-judicially contracted gulag having a ropes course?

 Just to lend themselves legitimacy through advertisement of another pseudo-scientific “therapy” (for which they need not employ high-salary demanding, accredited medical personnel)?

Or is it something deeper: yet another means to induce Stockholm Syndromatic bond between its captives and its tormenters, and redirect  captives’ concentration onto a menial, immediate task, thereby interfering with their grasp of the “bigger picture”—a basic component of thought reform.

definitely not. they create self-confidence and help eliminate certain fears, like the fear of heights. Basic school in any public school...even watching TV creates lack of ability to see the bigger picture by focusing on something menial.

have you ever even ben on a ropes course? were you that kid that cried for mommy the second you climbed the ladder? were you that spoiled city girl that got to the "hard part", gave up, and were left dangling there crying untill you grew some balls and finished it? were you the the fattass that passed out on the zipline from terror, thinking you were gonna break the thing?  ropes courses are made so that little kids can complete it, and the cables/supports are usually rated to hold the weight of a grand piano. unless you have some serious health problems you should not have any trouble. are you really that much of a pussy that you think ropes courses are abusive? they are fun,  not abusive. It doesnt necessarily even have to have a therapeutic component to it. they are FUN. everyone i know looked forward to doing them. i would do one again any day just for shits & giggles.


i love fornits for what it it, but you guys need to grow up, grow some brains and wait till your balls drop before you get into the bussiness of trying to shut places down. get some perspective so you know who and what to target, how to do it and what to say without sounding like a frivilous immature fool that deserves a little schooling and "therapy" you are currently being very counterproductive. this thread amounts to fornits shooting itself in the foot and then using that foot to kick itself in the teeth. stuff like this really hurts fornit's credibility - not that it had much left anyway since Che and his obnoxious porn posting, nazi-TBS satire site creating, "lets take down the whole industry at any cost" counterparts came around. parents a lawyers will look at this thread and say "they really are just disgruntled kids looking for revenge...there is no case". and i'm not even getting into well-proxied's foolishly misguided post with the kids names. that will truly hurt fornits along with the cause in the end; you guys have no idea what kind of media shit-storm may come out of this.

in layman's terms you dumb americanos can understand: quit carpet bombing anything that moves and buy some friggin smart weapons. {...ones with lasers on their heads lol}
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Re: CALO Ropes Course
« Reply #38 on: June 22, 2009, 05:18:21 PM »
I worked for 3 years at a wilderness school, so I know what I'm talking about.  It is dangerous for a child to participate in a ropes course element blindfolded.  That is the issue.
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Re: CALO Ropes Course
« Reply #39 on: June 22, 2009, 06:08:00 PM »
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you guys have no idea what kind of media shit-storm may come out of this.

Media shit-storm?

REALLY?!

Hey guys, this can cause a media shitstorm!! Get your asses on the fucking phone with ABC, CBS, NBC, and CNN!
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Re: CALO Ropes Course
« Reply #40 on: June 22, 2009, 08:00:39 PM »
blindfolded? hehe. carefull young grasshoppah.

seriously. you guys are wussies.


and media shit storm...no need for TV. blogs, forums and feeds, chain emails, etc. spread the word just fine. thats media too, isnt it? I'm sure u guys are well aquatinted with that form of communication. and CALO has an edge over you: they have money. dont pick fights you cant win. with the whole wellproxied bullshit, it's like you guys ran into a firefight butt naked with a BB gun (as far as credibility is concerned). You betta check yo self for you wreck yo self.
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Re: CALO Ropes Course
« Reply #41 on: June 22, 2009, 08:13:28 PM »
what i'm trying to say is that your strategy is FUCKED. as in, you have no strategy and that is why fornits is only mildly effective.

Youre all just a riotous mob thats just randomly attacking whatever happens to bother you. NO, death by a thousand pinpricks does not apply here. half the time you guys end up just throwing a piercing party (as in, piercing yourselfs) with the needles you intend to use for the thousand pricks. or you just prick yourself. metaphor works either way.

you must have a tactic. Forniticator tactics have worked before...for HLA in particular but others too. This new breed of fools (+che) taking over fornits in the last year are just a bunch of completely tactless blundering emo idiots.


and seriously, what's with the pron? ya'll must be obsessed with masochism, shooting yourselves in the foot over and over and all.
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Re: CALO Ropes Course
« Reply #42 on: June 22, 2009, 08:23:36 PM »
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blindfolded? hehe. carefull young grasshoppah.

seriously. you guys are wussies.


and media shit storm...no need for TV. blogs, forums and feeds, chain emails, etc. spread the word just fine. thats media too, isnt it? I'm sure u guys are well aquatinted with that form of communication. and CALO has an edge over you: they have money. dont pick fights you cant win. with the whole wellproxied bullshit, it's like you guys ran into a firefight butt naked with a BB gun (as far as credibility is concerned). You betta check yo self for you wreck yo self.

You can address well proxied about that "bullshit."  The majority of fornit's  members don't agree with his methods.  Whereas your message about running into a firefight is null n void.  They have money, $9000 - $13,000 per child, because they have the uncanny ability to take advantage of parents who cannot manage their child's problems.
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Re: CALO Ropes Course
« Reply #43 on: June 22, 2009, 08:26:32 PM »
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blindfolded? hehe. carefull young grasshoppah.

seriously. you guys are wussies.


and media shit storm...no need for TV. blogs, forums and feeds, chain emails, etc. spread the word just fine. thats media too, isnt it? I'm sure u guys are well aquatinted with that form of communication. and CALO has an edge over you: they have money. dont pick fights you cant win. with the whole wellproxied bullshit, it's like you guys ran into a firefight butt naked with a BB gun (as far as credibility is concerned). You betta check yo self for you wreck yo self.

I will not resort to name calling whereas your comments are indicative you don't have the ability to see the whole picture.  As far as the ropes course, it is not about being "wussies."  It is about safety which prevents accidents the school could get sued for.
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Re: CALO Ropes Course
« Reply #44 on: June 22, 2009, 08:54:14 PM »
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I will not resort to name calling whereas your comments are indicative you don't have the ability to see the whole picture.  As far as the ropes course, it is not about being "wussies."  It is about safety which prevents accidents the school could get sued for.
To be fair, at this juncture we have no idea what was going on off-camera.  Perhaps there was a big pit of foam below that we don't see, making an otherwise unsafe activity safe.  At this point we only have one side of the story which is largely based on speculation.
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