blog of a program parent

[Anonymous]

Most hospitals in Wisconsin now have standardized color-coded alerts for patients.
Many hospitals use color-coded alerts as a way to quickly identify important information about a patient, including his identity, allergies, risk of falling, and do-not-resuscitate (DNR) orders.
Dana Richardson, with the Wisconsin Hospital Association, says the format varies, but the concept is the same.

http://http://209.85.173.132/search?q=cache:Dvt_eu6pEZUJ:www.wrn.com/gestalt/go.cfm%3Fobjectid%3DDA3A1F8B-5056-B82A-37CB12A212CB0A72+color+coding+patients&cd=15&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us


Sick and injured children come in all sizes, challenging their caregivers to provide them with appropriate doses of medication and other necessary therapies. Harborview Medical Center is offering a conference next week on a system that allows paramedics, physicians and nurses to assess a child's size in time to prepare the treatments he or she will need.

http://http://uwnews.org/article.asp?articleID=10010

NOW SHOW US YOUR LINKS THAT PROVE COLOR CODING TO BE ABUSIVE.  YOU ALREADY LIED TO US ABOUT THE KIDS HAVING TO STRIP NAKED AND PUT ON JUMPSUITS.  LETS SEE IF YOU CAN REDEEM YOURSELF.  JUST POST US ONE LINK.....
THOUGHT SO

lol, guest/who.

Did you actually READ any of those articles you provided?

They describe hospitals using wrist bracelots with colors denoting whether a patient has allergies, or wishes to be receussitated, etc.

Where are the links establishing hospitals force patients  forms of identification that publicly establish them as a particular "level" of supposed psychiatric inadequacy or distubance;

where are the links confirming hospitals force  patients to wear outfits which symbolize that they are “self injurers”(yellow, at Cross Creek) or “bad” ( “orange”)?

lol, guest/who.

Did you READ  those articles you provided?

They describe hospitals using wrist bracelets to denote whether a patient has allergies, or wishes to be necessitated, etc.

Where are the links establishing hospitals force patients to wear forms of identification that publicly establish them as a particular "level" of supposed psychiatric inadequacy or disturbance?

Where are the links confirming hospitals force  patients to wear outfits which symbolize that they are “self injurers”(yellow, at Cross Creek) or “bad” ( “orange”)?

I'm not even requesting links where hospitals force psychiatric patients to wear outfits that designate they are too bad or too crazy to be allowed contact with the outside world, or must expose their pubic area and breasts to staff or other patients at “higher” levels once a day, i.e. force patients to publicly establish through insignia that they are being sexually, physically, and psychologically tormented, yet another element of the torment.

Let’s start with the links where hospitals force patients to wear outfits designating they are bad, or not working the program or self injurers?

Please provide these links, guest/who.

Still waiting….

[TheWho]

Personally I think color coding is okay as long as it serves the purpose of keeping the child safe and not just to humiliate them.  If a child is a flight risk, or can do harm to themselves then it would be acceptable so that staff can easily keep an eye on them.  I would also say that it would be fine to have different colors for different phases of the program also.  Color coding is used internationally as a visual communication tool.
If the kids are humiliated by it then it would be counter productive to any therapy they may be involved in.

[TheWho]

Last post was mine

NeilW

[Anonymous]

here is some info on psychological torute through forced, symbolic attire. I'm not providing you with any material a half brained idiot is not aware of

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_punishment
Very common is the use of shame through private or, especially, public humiliation.

For example, publicly shaving a woman’s head may not only humiliate her in front of those who witness her shearing, it may also deprive her of her hair for as long as it takes to grow back, thus serving as a continual reminder of her punishment and her humiliation.

Another example of psychological humiliation would be forcing a child into an outfit that  designates they are “bad.”  

the outfit serves a continual reminder of her punishment and humiliation; it publicizes precisely what her punishment and humiliation entails: i.e. forced public nudity, unworthiness to speak, unworthiness to move freely; and it, in itself, is a continual humiliation and punishment.

It works on so many levels, you sociopath!
Kaite, SUE THEM INTO OBLIVION.

[Anonymous]

Last post was mine

NeilW

my personal opinion may be that kids should be raped all day. My "opinion" and your "opinion" are irrelevent.

Medically, such violations are classified as abuse and have been proved to have devestating consequences for victims.  Only doctors with legitimate modalities should be allowed to offer "treatment" for anyone, otherwise anyone's "opinion" can be translated into action, with bloody consequences.

[Anonymous]

If you choose to attack me - then reveal yourself, don't hide.  In the US Courts - everyone has a right to confront their accuser.  People
here are attacking me and hiding.  No charges have been brought against me, nor will any be, because I have not broken any laws, and
while many people do not agree with the decisions I have made ( every person's right - but then these are anonymous beings out there, not
people - I acknowledge no rights to anyone without a name!) they are my decisions.

Let me entertain this notion for a moment, lets say that charges were brought against you... Do you realize that it would be none of us that would do so, it would be your daughter who would have the case against you. I think you should rephrase your thinking on who is attacking who at this moment, we are simply advocating for her because she seems to blame herself for those mistakes you say you made because you didn't know how to be a good parent for her.

I have been reading your blog, or I was until I started talking to Katie, I reached out to her because what I heard of "your side of the story" made me sick to my stomach. I really have to ask you what kind of parent treats their daughter with such disdain, regardless of the mistakes she's made in the past she is still your daughter and is deserving of your love. Yes, Katie made some bad decisions, but constantly berating her about them and refusing to give her any respect really escalated her self esteem problems. Don't you realize that the cycle never ends if you keep blaming her and refuse make any changes. You and Dianne talk a lot about how Katie doesn't take any accountability, well what about you? Do you really think you hold no responsibility in how miserable Katie grew to be? Honestly, Dianne was not a good fit for your family, she is too harsh and hateful and that is not the kind of mother Katie needed. You know she really needed you after she lost her mother, and its not hard to realize that this all started when you chose your wife over your daughter. I know how Katie felt, I came from a household where my stepmother made my life miserable as well and I acted out too because as a child you don't have the proper tools to deal with those emotions. Its your parents who are supposed to teach kids how to deal with their but instead you chose to fuel the fire with more hate and anger. Do you know what would have made all the difference in Katie's teen years? If you and Dianne would have taken some parenting classes and learned how to work with a child with depression. She had, (and still has) special needs but you spent so much time judging and punishing her that you actually made her depression worse and that depression, her misery and loneliness is what caused her to cut herself act out and hang out with friends that had similar problems. Stop blaming your child and be a man, take some responsibility and try to show her the love and attention she has been crying out for, she needs it and she deserves it.

Another reason I have to bring your parenting (and logic) into question is because despite the fact that she has a serious and crippling depression, you sent her to a program. A program that promises to change you child for you so you don't have to deal with it anymore. It WAS incarceration, she was not allowed to leave or even speak to anyone outside the facility beside you for 3 years... thats what we call here on earth a private prison. The way the program operates, even in the seemingly "non-abusive" schools, is not conducive to treating mental disorders, that fact is even stated in their contracts. The "therapists" work for the program and follow an oppressive agenda that is not approved by any medical or psychological association. The staff is not qualified to be working with special needs kids, regardless of if some of them call themselves "therapists", If they are not following proper medical procedures then they obviously don't know what they are doing. The whole program is an improper procedure, They strip children of their basic human rights, they use physical (and violent) restraint and isolation quite often as a punishment for "not following rules" instead of in accordance with federal law. They verbally, mentally and emotionally abuse the students in order to create the "tough love" environment and they cut too many corners when it comes to your children's safety and well-being. I don't understand, regardless if you felt you had no other option, why this kind of program would have even been considered for a severely depressed little girl. My guess is that getting her out of your home was more important then actually helping Katie and that is why so many of us are upset with the way you justify your actions.

Thank you, femanon.

[TheWho]

So the evidence shows that as long as the color coding isnt put in place to humiliate the person then it is an acceptable identification tool.

[Anonymous]

So the evidence shows that as long as the color coding isnt put in place to humiliate the person then it is an acceptable identification tool.

 Depending what an outfit signifies, whether an outfit is forced onto someone, and what further humiliations and punishments the outfit designates you as a receiver of merits whether it qualifies as psychological torture/ abuse or not .

If the Nazis forced the yellow star insignia onto the Jews as a while CLAIMING they are doing so to protect them, would that act still be psychologically abusive?

Yes.
The end, who

[FemanonFatal2.0]

Thanks, It seems someone has already grabbed my name.  I am not sure what I said to upset that person.  I guess it is pretty funny, but it does show why you need to register if you want to protect what you say.  I will post as a guest for awhile until I can come up with a different name.

NeilW

You don't give up do you, troll!! Ha,Ha,Ha... I'm flattered that you want to be me, but give it a rest.

 look, its obvious your trolling, and we can tell when your trolling. stop making an idiot of yourself.

Here on forward any post by registered user NeilW should be ignored.

Real Neil, I suggest you make yourself a different name, register it and Im sure we will be able to recognize you simply by the manner of which you speak.

[Antigen]

Ok, sometimes I just can't resist.

One  recent poster said no one could figure out why anyone would think the way a Program parent does. I could give some fairly well informed conjecture, but I won't. I'll just respond to this quote and leave it open to anyone's imagination, including my own, why the one idea seems to resonate with the other in my squirrelly little mind.

On one of the rare occasions in my adult life when I have conversed with my mother, she got annoyed with something I had said or done. She took on that familiar tone of a hen gearing up for a good rant and clucked out that rhetorical question that I had heard a hundred or more times before; "What's the matter with you?!" I quipped back "I dunno, Mom, poor potty training?" Never heard that particular one out of her again.

[edit... damn it! The quote got lost. It was just something about comparing bm to toilet training. sorry for the error]

[Che Gookin]

Personally I think color coding is okay as long as it serves the purpose of keeping the child safe and not just to humiliate them. If a child is a flight risk, or can do harm to themselves then it would be acceptable so that staff can easily keep an eye on them. I would also say that it would be fine to have different colors for different phases of the program also. Color coding is used internationally as a visual communication tool.
If the kids are humiliated by it then it would be counter productive to any therapy they may be involved in.

Staff can easily keep an eye on a kid without the color coding. If a group of kids is so large that they have to put a kid in an orange jumper you have not one problem but two.

1) They are humiliating the kid in the name of expediency.

2) The group is to damn large for the staffer to do his/her job of supervising the kids.

Though you keep glossing over the point that putting a kid in an orange jumper is detrimental to their mental health. How about you wear an Orange jumper to work next week and tell us how you felt about it?

[TheWho]

Personally I think color coding is okay as long as it serves the purpose of keeping the child safe and not just to humiliate them. If a child is a flight risk, or can do harm to themselves then it would be acceptable so that staff can easily keep an eye on them. I would also say that it would be fine to have different colors for different phases of the program also. Color coding is used internationally as a visual communication tool.
If the kids are humiliated by it then it would be counter productive to any therapy they may be involved in.

Staff can easily keep an eye on a kid without the color coding. If a group of kids is so large that they have to put a kid in an orange jumper you have not one problem but two.

1) They are humiliating the kid in the name of expediency.

2) The group is to damn large for the staffer to do his/her job of supervising the kids.

Though you keep glossing over the point that putting a kid in an orange jumper is detrimental to their mental health. How about you wear an Orange jumper to work next week and tell us how you felt about it?

Again, Mr. Che Gookin I need to disagree.  The color coding is needed as a visual tool and not intended to humiliate.  I believe someone said that “all” the kids are placed into orange when they first arrive.  The bright orange may have been chosen so that if the child runs away they may be easly spotted or identified by local authorities.  

If I was under someone elses care then I would have to go by their rules, but I am not I am an adult and can choose to wear what ever I chose just like yourself.  I am sure a nurse can keep an eye on 10 patients without having the visual color code system, but it is put in place as another layer of precaution.  If my hospital were to identify me with a purple wrist band to signify I was diabetic, I wouldn’t take it as they were trying to humiliate me in front of others who would be wearing yellow or brown for peanut allergy or DNR.

It seems you and others here are trying to twist and redefine specific elements of the program as being abusive, when it isn’t.  It is intended to keep the children safe which is just the opposite.

[psy]

Oh please.  These places are more than a little transparent about breaking kids down in order to "build them up".  How, precisely, do you think the breaking down is done?  Humiliation is a powerful tool, as is stripping a person of everything that they connect to as an individual in order to gradually strip them of individuality entirely.  Is it possible the orange jumpsuits/tshirts/uniforms/whatever have multiple purposes?

[TheWho]

Oh please.  These places are more than a little transparent about breaking kids down in order to "build them up".  How, precisely, do you think the breaking down is done?  Humiliation is a powerful tool, as is stripping a person of everything that they connect to as an individual in order to gradually strip them of individuality entirely.  Is it possible the orange jumpsuits/tshirts/uniforms/whatever have multiple purposes?

I am sure there are dual purposes.  The colors or suits that they have the flight risk kids and kids who break the rules wear are probably not the popular ones or as comfortable as an added incentive (or break them down as you put it) for the kids to follow the rules so they don’t have to wear them.  But there seems to be such a big push to label this as a humiliation tool or as abuse.  I just don’t see it. My thinking is alot of posters here believe this because they don’t know any better and this is the first time a lot of these kids have had to conform to strict rules.

If a salesman approached HR and said he was being humiliated and abused because he has been working for the company for 15 years and is still in a small cubicle while all the people he started with have corner and window offices, would he have a case to sue?  Should the company give him a corner office to stop his peers from snickering every time they passed his small cubicle and end his humiliation?  Why are all his co-workers being rewarded with larger offices and not him?  He shows up everyday for work just like they do.

I really beleive the color of the t-shirts is a stretch for crying abuse.

[psy]

I really beleive the color of the t-shirts is a stretch for crying abuse.

Perhaps on it's own, but in context with everything else, it can paint a different picture.  Just stick around and keep an open mind.