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Re: blog of a program parent
« Reply #225 on: April 10, 2009, 12:09:27 AM »
Quote from: "mcarter.fornits"
 I'd like to challenge all of you to be as open with your identity as mine has become.
I'd like all of the people who feel the need to criticize me put up their name and links to their pictures as well.

People who do their best to remain anonymous on the internet are prudent, and wise. People like you, who post their life stories and family information, full names, and pictures for the entire world to see, are naive.. at best.
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Re: blog of a program parent
« Reply #226 on: April 10, 2009, 01:32:31 AM »
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M. Carter - you've taken a tiger by the tail and given it a yank. But thats good. It might go a long way to waking you up.  
You made a terrible decision when you put your daughter in a WWASP program. I understand fully the kind of stress and frustration and fear that brought about this terrible decision; but it was a terrible decision none-the-less.  Indeed, as our Bruin friend suggest, you should get down on your knees and thank God you aren't responsible for any referrals.

I too am a WWASP program parent. I know how it is done; how they worked on you; how the program set you up and realed you in; how they gained and kept control of your thinking and actions with regard to your daughter and the program.  I have a reading list to suggest.

Help at Any Cost (how the troubled teen industry cons parents and hurts kids) by Maia Szalavitz
Cults in Our Midst, by Margret Singer

Both deal directly with WWASP and/or the LGAT WWASP forces upon the students and parents.

You may also want to look at a few other web sites.

http://www.turleylaw.com  
On the left hand sidebar you will see a link to recent filings. This will take you to a PDF copy of the case Turley has filed against WWASP and all related entities. Also on the left you will see the on-line form to fill out if your interested in having your case reviewed. This may by of special interest to Kattie.

http://www.isaccorp.org
ISAC has a great deal of information on WWASP.  http://www.isaccorp.org/wwasps.asp

http://www.wwaspsinfo.net
A collection of newspaper articles about the wwasp programs.

http://www.tbfight.com
they have a collection of video clips you can access, as well as a lot of commentary.

http://www.paulareeves.com
A repentant WWASP program parent's site.

http://www.nospank.net/boot.htm#n-i04
Jordan Riak's site. This page has some info about Congressman Millers efforts to stop the abuse.

http://teenadvocatesusa.homestead.com/tribute1.html
A memorial list of kids that have died in programs.

http://denver.rockymountainnews.com/des ... t-pg.shtml
A great seris of articles about the WWASP program. I hope it will open.
(If any of you cyber geeks know how to copy this site you should)

Thats enough to get you started.

If you want to "converse" with me After you have done the above reccomended research, feel free to contact me through this site.

Oh - let me second this: PBS montana did a good documentary on this:
http://www.montanapbs.org/WhosWatchingTheKids/

You gotta watch this PBS documentary.

thank you for this post, buzzkill.
katie, ignore any meaness you get hear on this thread..just inexcusable to have any of that aimed at you.
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Re: blog of a program parent
« Reply #227 on: April 10, 2009, 06:58:10 AM »
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Btw: name's Michael Crawford

..and just so you know, there is hardly any regulation at all over private programs for teens.  You might want to read a book on this such as "Help at any cost" by Maia Szalavitz.

Thanks Michael.  Yes, I've read the book.  Not what I would call an open or balanced account of anything.  In fact, I have yet to see
anyone write anything that tried to be balanced - they have all started with an agenda and tried to prove it.  The most interesting
part of the book is that of the very few programs she talked about, Cross Creek came out basically without a problem.  She didn't like
it, but couldn't condemn it (aside from the fact that they wouldn't meet with her).

Guest - I name you coward - and beyond that refuse to acknowledge anything you respond with (nor the insults you throw) until you come
forward, reveal yourself, and quit hiding behind the internet.

Buzzkill - oops, another anonymous name pushing a cause.  Come forward if you truly want to be heard.

People saying that it is prudent to remain hidden on the internet - WHILE ATTACKING OTHERS - are cowards.  Period.

If you choose to attack me - then reveal yourself, don't hide.  In the US Courts - everyone has a right to confront their accuser.  People
here are attacking me and hiding.  No charges have been brought against me, nor will any be, because I have not broken any laws, and
while many people do not agree with the decisions I have made ( every person's right - but then these are anonymous beings out there, not
people - I acknowledge no rights to anyone without a name!) they are my decisions.

As I stated before, I doubt I'll check this very often - because it does not seem that many people here wish to actually discuss anything.
They instead want to make hidden attacks against me - and I refuse to give them that power.

So group up, welcome to the real world, and once you quit hiding behind your keyboard then we can talk like people.
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Re: blog of a program parent
« Reply #228 on: April 10, 2009, 09:39:13 AM »
"You guys are all standing up there clean and dry! Come down here in the mud with me and say that!"

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA :twofinger: Yeaaaahhh.. I'm thinkin'... NO.

"with an agenda"

What, do they make you fuckgoblins in a mass production facility or something? Is there not one of you with a single original thought in your head? You sound exactly like.. well damn near every other programmie on Fornits.

Did you seriously think talking points were going to work here?!

"these are anonymous beings out there, not people"

...

......

BUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAA AHAHAHAHAHAHAH HAHAHAHAHA HAAAAAAAHAHAHAHA

IF YOU ONLY KNEW!!

You go and torture your daughter, continue to make a blog in which you gloat about how you treat her like shit, come onto FORNITS of all places and effectively BRAG about it, and then- AND THEN!- proceed to talk about anonymous beings? I don't think anyone here will actually grant your death wish physically, but I've never seen it expressed so cleanly. At least one other Anonymous has expressed an interest in ruining your fucking life and I don't think he/she/it is going to back down now. And you're cooperating! "HI EVERYBODY MY NAME IS MICHAEL CARTER AND I SENT MY DAUGHTER TO A WWASP SHITHOLE" and you expect respect for that?!

Oh.. oh man. You are one dumb, dumb son of a bitch.

Are you congenitally disabled from knowing the difference between love and hate, hope and fear, joy and rage? Is THAT what is wrong with you?
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Re: blog of a program parent
« Reply #229 on: April 10, 2009, 10:02:11 AM »
The books available here are carefully screened.  There are books available by Pulitzer prized authors who wrote on the subject.  One in particular who spent 16 months inside a program following a group of kids through from beginning to end and gives the reader a candid look at the children’s daily lives.  I can send you off some reading, although it is after the fact now so it may not be as interesting.

As far as the negative posts go.  Like myself you are a program parent and will not be received here very well by some extreme posters.  What I have become very good at is quickly screening post for content prior to reading them and ignoring the abusive posts.  It allows me to cut thru the crap and focus on the valuable posts.  Don’t let them get to you, Michael.

Your blog is very helpful to other parents who are struggling with similar family issues.  Thank you for taking the time to posts as often as you did.  I am sure you help others with it.
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Re: blog of a program parent
« Reply #230 on: April 10, 2009, 10:55:20 AM »
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Buzzkill - oops, another anonymous name pushing a cause. Come forward if you truly want to be heard.

I'm not exactly anonymous aroun' here, Mr Carter. Most in these parts know me well. Better than I like, in some cases.

As for you - I don't really care if you "hear" me or not. After all - Why should I waste a minute of my time on the likes of you?  Your daughter is out now - and she has found the validation she so badly needs - she knows she is not alone in her perception of reality - she can now access a far greater understanding of what was done to her (and you, if she cares) as well as how to find healing.  So, I've no need or interest in pounding my head against your brick wall.  

That said, maybe some day a glimmer of truth will filter through your programming and you'll want to talk (or write) another program parent who understands what you've experienced. If so, I'll be available.  

As for your critique of Help at Any Cost - you say it wasn't balanced? That is nothing more then the program crap and pablum they fed you. That is the line the trained you to take to keep you from thinking.  Help at Any Cost deals with the realities found in these private, for profit, "teen help" programs.  Maia Szalavitz has provided the well documented reality - not the whit-washed spewing of the brain washed Legions of Faithful - which you call "balance".  

As for you taking comfort Cross Creek is somehow a cut above - you need to keep in mind CC is a WWASP program. A WWASP program is a WWASP program. They ALL follow the same Program.  Cross Creek just charges more for the same worthless education, neglect, psychological and physical abuse.
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Re: blog of a program parent
« Reply #231 on: April 10, 2009, 11:27:13 AM »
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Buzzkill - oops, another anonymous name pushing a cause. Come forward if you truly want to be heard.

I'm not exactly anonymous aroun' here, Mr Carter. Most in these parts know me well. Better than I like, in some cases.

As for you - I don't really care if you "hear" me or not. After all - Why should I waste a minute of my time on the likes of you?  Your daughter is out now - and she has found the validation she so badly needs - she knows she is not alone in her perception of reality - she can now access a far greater understanding of what was done to her (and you, if she cares) as well as how to find healing.  So, I've no need or interest in pounding my head against your brick wall.  

That said, maybe some day a glimmer of truth will filter through your programming and you'll want to talk (or write) another program parent who understands what you've experienced. If so, I'll be available.  

As for your critique of Help at Any Cost - you say it wasn't balanced? That is nothing more then the program crap and pablum they fed you. That is the line the trained you to take to keep you from thinking.  Help at Any Cost deals with the realities found in these private, for profit, "teen help" programs.  Maia Szalavitz has provided the well documented reality - not the whit-washed spewing of the brain washed Legions of Faithful - which you call "balance".  

As for you taking comfort Cross Creek is somehow a cut above - you need to keep in mind CC is a WWASP program. A WWASP program is a WWASP program. They ALL follow the same Program.  Cross Creek just charges more for the same worthless education, neglect, psychological and physical abuse.

Buzzkill, have you lived what you spew here? Do you have, or have had a problem child? Walk a mile in Mr. Carters shoes for one day and you may change your tune.

Mr. Carter, you spoke of other children. How are they? Are they emotional vampires as well? Are they needy children that suck every ounce of energy from you also? Sorry, a friend of mine has a child that sounds a lot like your Katie. All she can do it hope and pray that the child makes it to adulthood and moves out. No amount of therapy, talking, crying, pleading, yelling does any good. She doesn't have the means to put her in a program, but I think if she did, she would.

My guess is your other children are well adjusted and doing fine in school and life. It seems almost every family has one problem child and there isn't anything that you can do. If they make it to adulthood, they become whiny needy adults that never have long lasting friendships because they just plain wear people out.

Good luck. She's 18, has she graduated high school? If she has what is she still doing there? Show her the door.
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Re: blog of a program parent
« Reply #232 on: April 10, 2009, 11:40:01 AM »
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Buzzkill - oops, another anonymous name pushing a cause.  Come forward if you truly want to be heard.

LOL.  You're talking to a genuine wwasp parent there.  Pretty rude if you ask me considering how polite she was to you.  Perhaps if you were less defensive and more polite (like your daughter) people wouldn't be attacking you so much.  I find it amazing in contrast to how polite your daughter's response was to harsh treatment.

Listen...  When you're attacked, you have two options:
1. escalate the conflict
or
2. diffuse the conflict

The result is 90% up to you.  Your response here is almost as omnidirectionally venomous as many of the guests!
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Re: blog of a program parent
« Reply #233 on: April 10, 2009, 02:45:20 PM »
It's funny how this clown of a parent is asking us to all post our names. I think I'll choose to remain anonymous for the time being. If this was my daughter I wouldn't let her play games with me. I'd show her who is in charge, the old fashion way. If you give kids an inch these days, they take a mile. Programs are okay for children who have mild to moderate issues, but severe emotional and behavior issues require severe intervention. Some people here say it's abusive, I think it's needed. I'm not going to outline what I did to my daughter exactly, but let's just say it turned her attitude around very quickly.
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Re: blog of a program parent
« Reply #234 on: April 10, 2009, 03:29:21 PM »
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It's funny how this clown of a parent is asking us to all post our names. I think I'll choose to remain anonymous for the time being. If this was my daughter I wouldn't let her play games with me. I'd show her who is in charge, the old fashion way. If you give kids an inch these days, they take a mile. Programs are okay for children who have mild to moderate issues, but severe emotional and behavior issues require severe intervention. Some people here say it's abusive, I think it's needed. I'm not going to outline what I did to my daughter exactly, but let's just say it turned her attitude around very quickly.

Seems my named got hijacked and running a havoc on me.

NeilW
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Re: blog of a program parent
« Reply #235 on: April 10, 2009, 03:52:50 PM »

Micheal, why don't you contact the girl, below. She is a survivor of CC and uses her full name.

You can't discount this testimony of abuse..being that everything she accounts is confirmed by your experience of the program..

Like kelly, you weren't allowed to talk to Katie until Cross Creek deemed her "reformed" enough for that "privlege." Which was how many months, Micheal?

 Like Kelly, Katie was not allowed to see anyone in her family for months until Cross Creek deemed her "reformed" enough for that "privelege."Which was how many months, Micheal?  Like Kelly, Katie wasn't allowed to contact people on the outside world for as long as her stay at WWASP. So for three years Katie was denied any contact with the world at large...These violations are medically classified as psychological torture and abuse.


Also, realize that physically forcing a kid (and yes, physically forcing, how do you think they force them into those t-shirts if they refuse, Micheal? Well, the same way you forced Katie into the Cross Creek Torture Chamber)to wear ANY SORT OF CLOTHING that symbolozes their lesserness and designates that they are to by sexually, physically and psychologically abused because they deserve it is PSYCHOLOGICAL torture. Forcing "cutters or those in danger of hurting themselves to wear yellow t-shirts" is also psychological abuse.


If you don't beleive me, about the medical classifications of the Cross Creek violations you have admitted to, call the head of your local psychiatric hospital and see what she says when you describe the violations that you have described to us: the imprisonment, the disconnection from the outside world, the debasing outfits.



http://www.heal-online.org/crosscreek.htm
Kelly Adams
Houston, TX
kcadams1980@yahoo.com

What can possibly be said or written about an experience so damaging it irrevocably altered the course or my life ?It's not an easy task for me to tell a sensual, chronicled account of my 18 months of incarceration at Cross Creek Manor in Southern Utah. I use the word "incarceration," because that is what it was - package the process in whatever manipulations you wish, but the reality is that we were locked up. If you remember nothing else, remember this: The proprietors of WWASP and other similar Behavior Modification "Schools" are master manipulators.

I was woken up in the middle of the night by 3 strangers. I was told to get out of bed and get dressed. One stranger followed me to the bathroom and watched while I changed. I was extremely disoriented - I'm not sure I realized I was awake - so I didn't fight my "kidnappers." I was instructed to get into a strange car. I got in the car without "incident," and heard the doors lock me in. I began to get very scared and I started asking my kidnappers, where they were taking me. No one would tell me. I guess I was beginning to raise my voice (I was feeling a bit hysterical), and that's when I was informed without a shred of sympathy if I gave them "any trouble" I would be put in handcuffs or otherwise physically restrained.

they told me I was going to a nice school for girls like me. I believed that I was going to some type of 90-day rehab, I would go back home, and my parents would love me again.

When we pulled up to Cross creek manor, I didn't think it looked so bad My kidnappers escorted me through the doors where 100 or so pairs of eyes all staring at me greeted me as if I was some sort of carnival freak show. All the girls were gathered out in the central foyer area for the nightly "Manor meeting." I was wary of all those girls in sweat pants and slippers who looked like a bunch of robots. I was taken to a room with a couple of “high-phase” girls who did my “intake.” I pleaded and insisted I didn't belong there, and they just started laughing. One of the girls told me, patronizingly, "Yeah, none of us belong here either."

Shortly afterwards I was strip-searched and "nix-ed" (de-loused) by a very scary , very large woman - I was unbelievably mortified. The other girls petrified me - when they spoke, it sounded to me like someone was playing a tape recorder, and they had absolutely no sympathy for me.

My first day in "Group" with Ron (he was the director of Cross Creek at the time) he asked me why I was there. All the girls were sitting around in a circle staring at me like I was a murderer, so I said "because my parents sent me here," COMPLETELY without a hint of attitude (I wasn't yet accustomed to the program double-speak). This sent Ron into a tirade - he yelled that I was a drug addict and ruining my family's lives, etc., etc. After a lengthy barrage of aggressive, mean-spirited "feedback" from the other girls in the group, I sat down, shaken and unable to process what had jhappened.

After I had spent about two weeks in Orientation (OR) Group with Ron, I joined my "home" group with the intimidating therapist at the helm, Garth. Garth was a very large man, which he used to his advantage to create a aggressive and imposing persona. Even before Cross Creek, men easily intimidated me, but being under Garth's "tutelage" worsened my fears.

Here is where things began to get really messy. In my 18 months at Cross Creek, there were so many harmful and traumatizing incidences that occurred - it would be impossible for me to recount every one. With that in mind, I will try instead to paint a general picture that will illustrate the kind of experience that I had.

Unlike many of the girls at CCM, I was never "restrained," but I witnessed this incredibly disturbing spectacle too many times to count. I was too paralyzed with fear to ever consider doing anything that I thought might cause me to be "taken down" by staff. I remember watching girls being taken down that were simply arguing with a staff - not physically endangering themselves or others - and they would be dragged, literally, kicking and screaming downstairs and into ISO (the 12 ft., locked "isolation" rooms). I also remember seeing a girl sitting in ISO who had cut herself and smeared blood all over her face and arms.

There were other girls who I saw with broken noses and injured arms/shoulders that were put into makeshift "slings" that consisted only of an Ace bandage. I knew several girls who had sustained physical injuries as a result of being taken down - i.e., broken noses, dislocated shoulders, torn ligaments, etc.

There were plenty of girls who I saw sitting in ISO for days, weeks, and even months at a time.


From my first day at CCM, I was told (and screamed at) that I was a worthless person, a disappointment to my family, a hopeless drug addict, a bitch and slut, a waste of space, a horrible human being and whatever other disparaging remarks the staff and other girls could muster. When I first arrived at CCM, I wasn't addicted to drugs however, I, like many other girls, was coerced into proclaiming/believing that I was hopelessly addicted to drugs. It was made very obvious that if I did not affirm the program's assessment of me that I would never advance past level one, so I played along (at first), and eventually began to internalize and believe everything that they said.

The infamous T.A.S.K.S. seminars & group "processes" were especially hurtful. One of my "issues" that I had to deal with at Cross Creek was childhood sexual abuse at 11 years old, and.

During one of the Focus "processes," (which I have been sworn to secrecy never to tell about) I was physically held down by four other Cross Creek girls (high phase girls who were seminar staff) while a fifth girl screamed into my face that "HE'S ON TOP OF YOU AGAIN!!! AREN'T YOU GOING TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT?? ARE YOU JUST GOING TO LET HIM DO IT TO YOU AGAIN?? WHAT KIND OF SLUT ARE YOU??"
I was crying and screaming so hard that I could barely see - I kicked and thrashed as hard as I could, but the four other girls just kept pinning me down to the floor, and I was unable to get out from under them.

There was another "process" that Garth facilitated, during which we had to write our own tombstones (the idea was for us to experience that we had died due to our "behavior"). After we had all written them, Garth and a few high phase girls from our group went around the room and screamed into our faces anything hurtful that they could manage to make us feel like worthless and horrible human beings.

When it was my turn, Garth approached me calmly and told me, coldly & without emotion, that my grandfather (my mother's father, whom I loved very much) was dead. My grandfather had emphysema and was repeatedly in and out of the Emergency Room, so this was hardly a stretch. Garth and the other girls shouted inches away from my face that my grandfather died knowing that I was a worthless bitch, a drug addict, and that I had ruined my family. They told me that he died knowing what a horrible person I was. By this point I was sobbing uncontrollably and finding it difficult to remain standing, so one of the high phase girls was holding me up for the continued barrage of abuse. After they finished with me, Garth and the other girls moved on to their next victim - and the scene continued on, as it had with me.

The next day, Garth called me into his office and told me that he was "mistaken" about my grandfather, and that he hadn't really died. I sobbed from relief that he was still living. l do not believe that Garth made an innocent "mistake." he purposefully used my grandfather's illness to traumatize me during a process. it worked.

I was never one of the girls routinely taken down, but it still took me months to advance in the program. Let me explain - although the program cronies would say like to say otherwise, unless you cry in group and painting a very melodramatic picture of your "issues," you will not advance, and you will not go home (which is where we ALL wanted to be).
I had a hard time expressing emotion -especially when put on the spot in-group. Thus, my inability to "be real," (translation: cry) held me on the low levels for a good seven months.

As I stated earlier, I was always very bright. My intelligence, apparently, was something to be ashamed of. I was routinely punished and chastised in-group for being "better than," and being "in my head". I was specifically reprimanded in-group for using "big words". This was all brought on because I was trying to help some of the other girls with their schoolwork, which was, apparently, a bad thing. After being "confronted" about my "intelligence issue," (yes, they actually called it that) I remember trying to dumb myself down in order to not incur the group's criticism.

WWSP "school" system is, at best, laughable. I was a very good student. At Cross Creek (or "Browning Academy" as WWASP likes to refer to the fictional "school" associated with their programs), I was given a remedial level textbook for each respective class and instructed to complete the chapter exercises and a chapter test. This was the extent of our "education," and it was a mockery of my intellectual ability. I learned absolutely nothing my "senior year" in "high school"

Eventually, I advanced to level three. But let me first let you know that I wasn't allowed to speak to my parents on the phone until I had been there for four months, the first time I saw my parents was after seven months, and the first time I saw my two brothers was after nine or ten months.

I was not allowed to communicate with anyone from the outside world besides my parents - not friends, family or anyone besides my parents & brothers.

After I began to advance in the program, I became one of its most vocal supporters. I was notorious for giving "hardcore" feedback to new girls, and "not taking any crap," from anyone not subscribing to the program's mantras. I became a bloodthirsty Pitt Bull - anxiously awaiting the opportunity to tear another girl down, the way that I had been torn down before. I'm sure that I probably caused a lot of girl's pain, and this is something that I feel intensely remorseful for to this day.

After I had been at CCM for 10 months or so, I was on level five and able to take an off-grounds pass with my family. I missed my family so much by that point that I thought I might break in two. The pass really broke down a lot of the brainwashing, and I eventually reached a point where I felt I would literally go insane if I had to remain in the program.

Basically, I cracked - one night I spent three hours pacing around my room trying to figure out how I was possibly going to complete the program without losing my mind. by then, I was 18, and was able to walk out of the program if wanted to - however, my parents had made it clear that they would not let me come home if I left Cross Creek without completing the program.

My "exit plan" was pretty similar to other kids in WWASP programs - if I decided to leave after I turned 18, I would get $10 in my pocket and a bus ticket to Denver (not Houston, my native city), and my parents would not accept me back in their house.

So, back to that night when I lost it - I eventually decided, after a couple of hours of pacing, that I had to leave the program, despite the fact that I would probably be homeless.

I went to the head staff and told her I wanted to leave. She attempted to change my mind for an hour or so, but I wouldn't be swayed. Then my parents were called. We had a gut-wrenching phone conversation during which my mother said "goodbye" - at that moment she believed that she was talking to me for the last time. After my parents couldn't get me to change my mind, my 17 year-old brother, Cory, was put on the phone. I remember him sobbing and pleading with me not to leave the program, because he "didn't want me to die." I cried my eyes out during all of this, but still, my parents and I held firm. after a few hours of this, I spoke to my case manager, and she told me that I could still change my mind. I was petrified of being abandoned in a foreign city (not to mention the fact that I had no way of contacting any of my other family members, since it was forbidden to record any phone numbers), so I acquiesced, and remained at Cross Creek.

After this incident, I was ostracized and forced to "regain trust" from my group members.. If I had been under 18, I would have been dropped down to level one, but due to my age, I was allowed to remain on probationary status at level five. After a couple of weeks of groveling and enduring numerous group sessions during which I was the object of ridicule and criticism, I eventually convinced Garth and the rest of the high phase girls that I was "ready to work."

And so, I was cemented into the system -I was completely brainwashed into thinking the program had saved my life and that I would be dead if my parents had never sent me there (the same robotic mantra of all brainwashed WWASP kids). I became a cruel and ruthless high phase girl - like the ones who had hurt me when I was new at CCM, and I extolled the virtues of the program that had caused irrevocable damage to my soul.

The rest of my incarceration at Cross Creek was fairly smooth, and I graduated two months before my19th birthday. Afterwards, I returned to Houston to live with my parents for a couple of months before being accepted to the University of Texas - Arlington
I entered college a completely conflicted, damaged, neurotic, depressed and anxious person - with the next few years ahead of me to experience levels of depravity that I never came close to prior to my incarceration at CCM. I don't feel comfortable getting into all those details now, but suffice it to say, that the program DIDN'T work. To this day, my parents still do not believe me when I try to tell them about what went on at CCM. The fact that they take the program's side over mine - their own daughter - is something that I will probably feel and carry with me for the rest of my life.

Please Contact Kelly Adams for any questions for comments at the email above.
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Re: blog of a program parent
« Reply #236 on: April 10, 2009, 04:23:37 PM »
Look first we were told here that they were stripped and forced to wear orange jump suits.  Then we find out you were lying.  The facts came out and they wore different colored t-shirts.  Now you are trying to make us believe that wearing t-shirts is abusive.  Why not give it a rest and let Katie and her family tell their story.  I am not buying your bull anymore, you are trying to find abuse where it doesnt exist.  We had a poster here called CCMgirl98 or something and she didnt find cross creek abusive either.
Lets here what Katie has to say.
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« Reply #237 on: April 10, 2009, 04:43:48 PM »
Quote from: "Guest"
Look first we were told here that they were stripped and forced to wear orange jump suits.  Then we find out you were lying.  The facts came out and they wore different colored t-shirts.  Now you are trying to make us believe that wearing t-shirts is abusive.  Why not give it a rest and let Katie and her family tell their story.  I am not buying your bull anymore, you are trying to find abuse where it doesnt exist.  We had a poster here called CCMgirl98 or something and she didnt find cross creek abusive either.
Lets here what Katie has to say.

Who, responding to you is akin to crawling in a sewer, and I shouldn’t need to spell this out, but in his blog, MC said Katie was forced to wear orange jumpsuits or "scrubs." He has since amended that to say that Cross Creek forced detainees to wear orange "t-shirts" if they are "bad"(essentially) and "yellow t shirts" if they are self injuring, which we have accepted.

Please, don't buy "my" "bull." Email the head of your local psychiatric hospital and ask her if they would classify physically forcing a patient in medical confinement to wear any sort of garb, including t-shirt, that publicly establishes to all the patients and staff that he is a  "self injurer" or "bad" as psychological torture or abuse.

It quite extraordinary that you are trying to assert otherwise, but than as you mock survivors of sexual abuse and spend hours a day here to support ASPEN I should not be shocked
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« Reply #238 on: April 10, 2009, 05:14:37 PM »
Color coding for patient risk factors has been going on for years indicating dietary restrictions, fall risks, allergies, suicide risk, DNR  etc..  Hospitals have been using color coding for years as visual communication tools.  Medications are now being color coded also because of the successes being seen on the patient level.
What is wrong with you people?  If a child took their own life everyone would be screaming “Why weren’t they regulated and forced to adopt the policies that hospitals use?”  This isn’t abuse, people, it is responsible management of the youth they are in charge to protect.  Why is everything twisted around to be abusive here?  What’s the point?  Is there such little evidence of abuse within these places that you have to start fabricating definitions?
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« Reply #239 on: April 10, 2009, 05:20:21 PM »
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Color coding for patient risk factors has been going on for years indicating dietary restrictions, fall risks, allergies, suicide risk, DNR  etc..  Hospitals have been using color coding for years as visual communication tools.  Medications are now being color coded also because of the successes being seen on the patient level.

LOL

Are you implying hospitals force patients to wear colored scrubs establishing they are "self injuring" risks, or "bad"(undeserving of the right to urinate or bathe without being “watched” or speak to the outside world because they are too “manipulative”)?

You live in fantasy. And your ridiculous declarations won’t make them real.
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