Winning The Culture War

[Anonymous]

The really poignant thing about that is that, oddly, it's all fucking true. Word for word.

[TheWho]

Thanks guest, great rant!!  I thought that was great the first time I read it too and passed it along to my favorite Bush supporters…

Here is the link:

http://http://sirgomer.com/

So I guess you made yourself clear that you are for Shrinks in the public school system and medicating our kids.  I just have a tough time agreeing with you on this one.  Medication is appropriate in many situations and I always believe there should be a defined or a target end point on when that child can come off the meds (for depression, bi polar etc).  But this should be handled outside the school system, IMO.
A well qualified guidance counselor can serve as a good conduit between home and school in these situations.
The parents should work with a separate local service for this and keep the government out of it as much as possible.

[Anonymous]

  STUPID    ::roflmao::

[Froderik]

And I wouldn't discount legalization, particularly mj legalization, as valid, possibly vital aspect to winning the culture war. For one thing, almost the only people left clinging to reefer madness are pretty much the Semblers and their close affiliates. These have come to be known as the "extra chromosome" Republicans. War on MJ has become somewhat of an emblem of their love of arbitrary, capricious and often cruel authority from the right.

The psyche screening and pill pushers represent the Dempublican counterpart and we should just as constantly and strenuously challenge and investigate them.

One could always argue that "they" will always find something to "treat," but legalization would be a heavy statement and a major battle won..

I want to say that your second paragraph is almost quoteworthy...people seem to get played by the "good cops" all too easily sometimes.

[TheWho]

To WHO,
Teachers in Britain are not much concerned with cannabis anymore.  It was down graded to a class C drug, which is the lowest, a couple of years ago.  Adults who get caught smoking just get it confiscated or receive a warning.  Kids may get taken to the station for a reprimand, unless they continue to get caught then they may be referred to the “Youth Offending Team to arrange a rehabilitation programme to prevent reoffending.â€

[Anne Bonney]

And I wouldn't discount legalization, particularly mj legalization, as valid, possibly vital aspect to winning the culture war. For one thing, almost the only people left clinging to reefer madness are pretty much the Semblers and their close affiliates. These have come to be known as the "extra chromosome" Republicans. War on MJ has become somewhat of an emblem of their love of arbitrary, capricious and often cruel authority from the right.

The psyche screening and pill pushers represent the Dempublican counterpart and we should just as constantly and strenuously challenge and investigate them.

One could always argue that "they" will always find something to "treat," but legalization would be a heavy statement and a major battle won..

I want to say that your second paragraph is almost quoteworthy...people seem to get played by the "good cops" all too easily sometimes.

Speaking of asshole cops...

[3xsaSeedling]

One could always argue that "they" will always find something to "treat," but legalization would be a heavy statement and a major battle won...

Sadly, neither issue will be resolved in our lifetimes  

In this case, there will always be parents who got more than they bargained for, and want 'the answer' to their 'problems' given to them.  

That's not to say there is no effort or hard work contributed but it's almost a teenage mentality:  Handing out the right answers  (to life, ya know, like just for showing up!).

I was at the doctor one day complaining about aches and numbness because of my bed.  'Any suggestions, doc.  "What?  Like a pill will fix it?!!  Go buy a new bed."

Sadly, that's the mentality I speak of.  
You put medical access into schools like that, YOU'RE PUTTING MEDICAL ACCESS INTO SCHOOLS LIKE THAT.  Read on..

My son gave me permission to post about him, so...here goes:
he was diagnosed w/ADD initially (@ age5).  On the 2nd day of school, he waited @ the foot of the bus steps and punched some kid in the nose -almost broke his nose - because the kid had been teasing him for 2 days.
I was asked not to bring him back to school until he had been evaluated (translation:  we will now medicate him for the next decade or so... okay?) baabaabaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

In short, he and I spent years together being buffetted about by the 'winds' of educational rules and by choice - I conned me w/what I wanted to hear:
'He has X and Y.  If we give him Z, it will fix him."  We started @ A.  baabaabaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
Shame on me.  For years we kept him medicated and in Special Ed in the name of treatment.  Now I have a young adult with no training,  that I still don't have 'directions' for! There's no more drugs now.  And he's 24.   Now we 'paddle' together

As long as there are parents like me who looked to have a 'magic fix' or 'treatment', there will be those who feed off it.

[Antigen]

As long as there are parents like me who looked to have a 'magic fix' or 'treatment', there will be those who feed off it.

I'm so sorry to hear that. But look on the bright side. What passes for 'training' in the mainstream these days is not really much to be desired.

And that really is emblemic of our cultural dilemma. Since the advent of the industrial revolution, we have delegated to government and business more and more of what used to be the exclusive role of families and communities. So here we are, 5 generations into this experiment.

In short, we have become domesticated, 'human resources' and 'consumers'. This is essentially the same dilemma faced by the founding fathers of this country wrt the slave economy.

My first big tip off was when I dropped my oldest daughter off at day care and the nice people there advised me to pretend I wasn't just as upset as she was over leaving her alone among strangers.

[TheWho]

Dam school systems, at every teacher conference I was told my daughter was too argumentative.  â€œShe disagrees with me constantly and asks too many questions in classâ€

[Anonymous]

And I wouldn't discount legalization, particularly mj legalization, as valid, possibly vital aspect to winning the culture war. For one thing, almost the only people left clinging to reefer madness are pretty much the Semblers and their close affiliates. These have come to be known as the "extra chromosome" Republicans. War on MJ has become somewhat of an emblem of their love of arbitrary, capricious and often cruel authority from the right.

The psyche screening and pill pushers represent the Dempublican counterpart and we should just as constantly and strenuously challenge and investigate them.

One could always argue that "they" will always find something to "treat," but legalization would be a heavy statement and a major battle won..

I want to say that your second paragraph is almost quoteworthy...people seem to get played by the "good cops" all too easily sometimes.

Speaking of asshole cops...

Asshole pigs !  :x Lucky he had that camera...  :rofl:

[Anonymous]

It would be good to see a movie on the history of the industry and available for free on Google video would help a lot because so far the movies ive seen are for profit, and not bashing that, but the audience that matters to stop this which is parents searching for placement aren't going to pay money and wait most likely but might watch a online one.

[3xsaSeedling]

Anne Bonney wrote

Speaking of asshole cops...

That guy's dash-video is on the news and that cop's in serious trouble
 ::rocker::  ::seg::

[Anonymous]

My son gave me permission to post about him, so...here goes:
he was diagnosed w/ADD initially (@ age5).

Anyone who would diagnose a 5 year old with ADD should have his or her license revoked.

On the 2nd day of school, he waited @ the foot of the bus steps and punched some kid in the nose -almost broke his nose - because the kid had been teasing him for 2 days.

That should've solved the issue right there. Bully gets hurt, bully learns not to do that anymore, and your kid gets told never to throw the first punch. Both of them learn an important lesson and move on.

I was asked not to bring him back to school until he had been evaluated (translation:  we will now medicate him for the next decade or so... okay?)

One of my kids had a moronic biatch of a teacher in 1st grade, who decided he must be ADD/ADHD and asked us to have him evaluated. I asked to see her therapeutic credentials that qualified her to suggest a diagnosis, but of course she had no credentials. We had him evaluated by a pro, who said basically let's wait a few years and see how he's doing when he's older. That was that. Too bad if this teacher was 'inconvenieced' by having a bright, energetic little boy in her class. My attitude was hey, if you can't deal with little kids, maybe you're in the wrong profession.

In short, he and I spent years together being buffetted about by the 'winds' of educational rules and by choice - I conned me w/what I wanted to hear:
'He has X and Y.  If we give him Z, it will fix him."  We started @ A.  baabaabaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
Shame on me.  For years we kept him medicated and in Special Ed in the name of treatment.  Now I have a young adult with no training,  that I still don't have 'directions' for! There's no more drugs now.  And he's 24.   Now we 'paddle' together

That's a sad story that didn't have to turn out that way. More parents should raise hell with lazy, uncaring school officials. Most districts have more than one elementary school, or more than one teacher for each grade. And there are charter schools. For some people, home schooling is an option. Parents should never accept this kind of derogatory labeling of their child, or school officials' demands to keep a child on drugs.

As long as there are parents like me who looked to have a 'magic fix' or 'treatment', there will be those who feed off it.

Sad, but true. Too many parents are brainwashed by the media, by Phoolish TV "doctors," by pop culture fads like 'mental illness is the new normal', by incompetent and poorly funded school officials and by Big Pharma's "War For Drugs."

[psy]

Dam school systems, at every teacher conference I was told my daughter was too argumentative.  â€œShe disagrees with me constantly and asks too many questions in classâ€

[Anonymous]

Any of these Little Johnnys that are still around will get found out and either drugged, shipped off to programs, or both.

In another generation, there won't even be any more Little Johnnys, since kids will be so well controlled from birth that they won't even be able to think of such clever comebacks.