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« Reply #60 on: September 11, 2007, 12:26:22 AM »
all this talk of bud.. "who's" actually burning tonight.. light it up if ya got it...  ::bandit::  :wave:  ::deal::  ::crybaby::  ::hatter::
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« Reply #61 on: September 11, 2007, 12:29:44 AM »
:smokin:  ::bandit::


Burnin' out of my little tiny glass waterpipe I got last Key West trip.

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« Reply #62 on: September 11, 2007, 12:33:38 AM »
In about a month or month and a half.. I'm gonna be sitting on the Beach in Cambodia with a bong the size of a coconut baked out of my gourd. sighs.. good times to be had... lols.
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« Reply #63 on: September 11, 2007, 12:42:32 AM »
it's important to take good care of your teeth.. you only get one set...
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« Reply #64 on: September 11, 2007, 12:49:11 AM »
I'll hire a Cambodian girl to floss them for me daily.

Should only set me back about a buck a day.
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« Reply #65 on: September 11, 2007, 12:51:28 AM »
and who says globalization is bad...
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« Reply #66 on: September 11, 2007, 12:52:17 AM »
floss.. hahah christ.. I love double entendres.
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« Reply #67 on: September 11, 2007, 12:55:01 AM »
::roflmao::  ::roflmao::
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« Reply #68 on: September 11, 2007, 01:01:19 AM »
What are your positions regarding putting mental health services in the schools?  There is a current push in my state for this, and the advocates are rather powerful.  I see this as massive brainwashing.  I look foreward to your responses!
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« Reply #69 on: September 11, 2007, 01:02:59 AM »
when i get really really really high things like bacon ice cream start sounding like a good idea.
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« Reply #70 on: September 11, 2007, 01:04:51 AM »
A resounding HELL NO!  That's insane.  Basically, Big Brother wants to set junior up for Big PHarma.

Deb's got a bunch of links and resources.  PM and ask her about them.
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Re: Mental Health program in schools
« Reply #71 on: September 11, 2007, 01:57:15 AM »
Quote from: ""Scared teacher""
What are your positions regarding putting mental health services in the schools?  There is a current push in my state for this, and the advocates are rather powerful.  I see this as massive brainwashing.  I look foreward to your responses!


I guess it depends what scale we are talking about. The massive all encompassing sort of head tweaking that some suggest really does sort of scare me. I do think a case can be made for improving the quality of guidance counseling in high school. My guidance counselor was actually quite good and gave me a lot of help with things that were going on at home.

Other than that mental health should be kept out of schools. If a kid obviously needs some sort of referral then it should be made but to a provider outside of the school to avoid the pressure of teachers to get the kid on kiddie crack.

At the same token I'm a big fan of smaller schools. Charter Schools. And more independent learning opprotunities.
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« Reply #72 on: September 11, 2007, 03:14:38 AM »
Kids don't need no education
kids don't need no thought control
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Re: Mental Health program in schools
« Reply #73 on: September 11, 2007, 04:05:04 AM »
Quote from: ""Scared teacher""
What are your positions regarding putting mental health services in the schools?  There is a current push in my state for this, and the advocates are rather powerful.  I see this as massive brainwashing.  I look foreward to your responses!


Legitimate mental health services such as psychologists / psychiatrists? or new-age quackery disguised as mental health services?  The former is ok with me (as long as it's voluntary, as all medical treatment should be); however I'd rather keep unproven / experimental / debunked things like EST (Landmark Forum), LifeSpring, L Ron Hubbard, Dr Phil, and Oprah the fuck out of public schools (however, everybody should be free to do whatever they want on private time).

Lots of people might argue that a psychologist has no place in a school.  I disagree.  I think they should function like guidance counselors (voluntary) but be able to set up appointments and provide free counseling if a student feels the need.
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Re: Mental Health program in schools
« Reply #74 on: September 11, 2007, 07:21:16 AM »
Quote from: ""psy""
Quote from: ""Scared teacher""
What are your positions regarding putting mental health services in the schools?  There is a current push in my state for this, and the advocates are rather powerful.  I see this as massive brainwashing.  I look foreward to your responses!

Legitimate mental health services such as psychologists / psychiatrists? or new-age quackery disguised as mental health services?  The former is ok with me (as long as it's voluntary, as all medical treatment should be); however I'd rather keep unproven / experimental / debunked things like EST (Landmark Forum), LifeSpring, L Ron Hubbard, Dr Phil, and Oprah the fuck out of public schools (however, everybody should be free to do whatever they want on private time).

Lots of people might argue that a psychologist has no place in a school.  I disagree.  I think they should function like guidance counselors (voluntary) but be able to set up appointments and provide free counseling if a student feels the need.


My sticking point on this is:  what exactly gets put in a kid's record, officially or otherwise?  That's why I do tend to lean more towards TSW's contention that this sort of thing should be kept out of the school system.  My own experience with the public school system comes from both sides of the parent/kid spectrum.  You can be lucky enough to live in a progressive town where the public school system appears to be well-meaning and perhaps almost benign, but what goes on your record travels with you and can be re-interpreted by another school system differently.  Like it or not, and benign or not, public school systems are Big Brother and potential misuses of information on your kid need to be evaluated in that light.
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