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Should Sue related threads get moved to PURE/sue/caca forum?

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Offline Anne Bonney

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« Reply #60 on: August 29, 2007, 01:53:33 PM »
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go vote


Nah, I really don't care one way or the other.  Psy asked for opinions, I said I didn't care, wouldn't mind or whatever.  I don't care or mind either way.
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« Reply #61 on: August 29, 2007, 01:53:42 PM »
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No, what we've said is that this is about as close to unmoderated and free as you can get. It's not perfect, but it's a damn sight better than anything else I've seen.

No that's not what the forum says, it says this:

The Troubled Teen Industry
Compliance is not character. Weakness is not strength. Regression is not growth. "Tough love" leads to tough hate. Time for some straight talk about the Troubled Parent Industry.

This is an uncensored, unmoderated forum where all viewpoints are both welcome and fair game for debate. It's a snap-shot of the Teen Help industry, and there's nothing inspiring or heart-warming about it. It's pretty damned ugly. Enter at your own risk.

Moving posts=moderating by definition

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I've been harassed, threatened and slammed over the years. We all have. So what?

The hypocrisy of defending free speech of attackers and not that of people just posting information on what they deem relevant to the TTI. It's a double standard, a very gross one IMO.

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No, they are wanting to put them where it's easier to follow.

"Easier to follow" says who? Is this forum populated by a bunch of fifth graders, are that many people really "lost" in the small amount of posting that occurs on this forum? Have you ever seen what a real forum is like and how busy they are? I don't buy this excuse, it's a noble reason and I suspect other reasons, such as , people just don't like it. They are annoyed. Instead of saying that, they play the righteous card.

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You sure do or you wouldn't continue this.

About Scheff. Damn straight I care about the ethics of free speech and exposing hypocrisy, even if it's on the "side I agree with".


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That's YOUR term, not ours.

Yep. The self righteousness in the idea of this particular example of moderation is ridiculous, be honest people.

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We'll see.


We already did, several time. But hey, it makes good entertainment so why not?
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« Reply #62 on: August 29, 2007, 01:56:13 PM »
I don't have any problem with the folks posting about Sue, I'm glad for the information. But the TTI gets flooded with the Sue post that often contain the same content. I'm not against having Sue stuff in the TTI forum, thats a catch all for the industry. Moving a few over to Pure Bullshit(Which means Pure's bullshit, not that the issue is bullshit) will keep TTI from being drowned in Sue.

TTI is not a one issue/program forum, when you folks bury it with Sue, when you got a forum for that, it's a problem. If Straight or wwasps threads did the same then it would be no different, but that doesn't happen like it does with Sue threads... So...

I glad you Anons are keeping us informed but my God!! Don't squash other important issues when you have all the space in the Pure forum.
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« Reply #63 on: August 29, 2007, 02:00:26 PM »
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No that's not what the forum says, it says this:

The Troubled Teen Industry
Compliance is not character. Weakness is not strength. Regression is not growth. "Tough love" leads to tough hate. Time for some straight talk about the Troubled Parent Industry.

This is an uncensored, unmoderated forum where all viewpoints are both welcome and fair game for debate. It's a snap-shot of the Teen Help industry, and there's nothing inspiring or heart-warming about it. It's pretty damned ugly. Enter at your own risk.

Moving posts=moderating by definition
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I disagree.


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I've been harassed, threatened and slammed over the years. We all have. So what?

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The hypocrisy of defending free speech of attackers and not that of people just posting information on what they deem relevant to the TTI. It's a double standard, a very gross one IMO.

I don't see anyone NOT defending people posting information.  What the hell are you talking about?


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No, they are wanting to put them where it's easier to follow.

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"Easier to follow" says who? Is this forum populated by a bunch of fifth graders, are that many people really "lost" in the small amount of posting that occurs on this forum?

Yes, that many postings, that many people, it gets confusing.

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Have you ever seen what a real forum is like and how busy they are? I don't buy this excuse, it's a noble reason and I suspect other reasons, such as , people just don't like it. They are annoyed. Instead of saying that, they play the righteous card.


What 'real' forums are you talking about?  You keep using that word 'righteous'.  I do not think it means what you think it means.
::bwahaha::


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Yep. The self righteousness in the idea of this particular example of moderation is ridiculous, be honest people.

We already did, several time. But hey, it makes good entertainment so why not?



Mmmm hmm. OK.
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« Reply #64 on: August 29, 2007, 02:01:58 PM »
Inmoderated means that.  Leave posters alone.
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« Reply #65 on: August 29, 2007, 02:03:40 PM »
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I disagree.

Then I suggest you get a new dictionary.

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I don't see anyone NOT defending people posting information. What the hell are you talking about?

 :rofl:

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Yes, that many postings, that many people, it gets confusing.

To you.

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What 'real' forums are you talking about? You keep using that word 'righteous'. I do not think it means what you think it means.


When an ideological group of people break their own beliefs and hold others to it, I call them hypocrites. When they are annoyed with something and claim to solve it for righteous purposes I call them self righteous.

Not sure why you keep taking such an  interest in defending hypocrisy?
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« Reply #66 on: August 29, 2007, 02:03:47 PM »
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Inmoderated means that.
 

I don't believe that moving threads equals moderating.  You do.

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Leave posters alone.


Alright, we've got your vote now.  K?
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« Reply #67 on: August 29, 2007, 02:04:50 PM »
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I disagree.

Then I suggest you get a new dictionary.

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I don't see anyone NOT defending people posting information. What the hell are you talking about?

 :rofl:

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Yes, that many postings, that many people, it gets confusing.

To you.

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What 'real' forums are you talking about? You keep using that word 'righteous'. I do not think it means what you think it means.

When an ideological group of people break their own beliefs and hold others to it, I call them hypocrites. When they are annoyed with something and claim to solve it for righteous purposes I call them self righteous.

Not sure why you keep taking such an  interest in defending hypocrisy?





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« Reply #68 on: August 29, 2007, 02:05:51 PM »
Do you laugh at people in person when you disagree with them and have nothing left to say? It's rude.
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« Reply #69 on: August 29, 2007, 02:11:45 PM »
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Do you laugh at people in person when you disagree with them and have nothing left to say? It's rude.



Why yes.  Yes I do.  So you can just write me off as rude now.  Feel free to ignore anything else I have to say.
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« Reply #70 on: August 29, 2007, 02:11:56 PM »
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Do you laugh at people in person when you disagree with them and have nothing left to say? It's rude.


You are kidding, aren't you?
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« Reply #71 on: August 29, 2007, 02:16:17 PM »
Yes I was as I had just put a laughing icon in my own statement.

I was satirizing by pretending to take issue with this posters rudeness when in fact I just disagree with what they say. Luckily I don't have the power to move their posts, or they would be stuck posting at the bottom of the stack. Why? Because I am human and I get pissed off and I do not subscribe to ideologies that cannot possibly be followed as layed out , opening the possibility to the only inevitable conclusion, hypocrisy.
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« Reply #72 on: August 29, 2007, 02:18:08 PM »
But of course we are supposed to believe said moderators are above human emotion, and live on an objective plain us simple emotional folk simply cannot understand. Silly me!
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« Reply #73 on: August 29, 2007, 02:18:29 PM »
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Yes I was as I had just put a laughing icon in my own statement.

I was satirizing by pretending to take issue with this posters rudeness when in fact I just disagree with what they say. Luckily I don't have the power to move their posts, or they would be stuck posting at the bottom of the stack. Why? Because I am human and I get pissed off and I do not subscribe to ideologies that cannot possibly be followed as layed out , opening the possibility to the only inevitable conclusion, hypocrisy.


...and this was sooo useful...how?
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« Reply #74 on: August 29, 2007, 02:19:49 PM »
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Yes I was as I had just put a laughing icon in my own statement.

I was satirizing by pretending to take issue with this posters rudeness when in fact I just disagree with what they say. Luckily I don't have the power to move their posts, or they would be stuck posting at the bottom of the stack. Why? Because I am human and I get pissed off and I do not subscribe to ideologies that cannot possibly be followed as layed out , opening the possibility to the only inevitable conclusion, hypocrisy.

...and this was sooo useful...how?


This is a discussion forum, and I discuss instead of just sitting around reading.

Now you have deemed my post non-useful. Good for you. Lucky you don't have the power to dump my post in the non-useful bin.


Get it?
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