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Offline nimdA

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« Reply #60 on: August 01, 2007, 11:59:56 PM »
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Forums are great to get together and get some people informed.  In terms of enacting change within our system, forums have no bearing on an organizations prowess.  You seem to be using the faintest of insults to insinuate as many negative thoughts as you can.  It's really counterproductive.


You still haven't addressed the problem of the NYRA connection to Isabelle. Particularly the lack of action in regards to the Whitmore blog posted by Isabelle. This happened months ago and CAFETY has sat on its ass ever since about it.

Why are you dodging the question?
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« Reply #61 on: August 02, 2007, 12:01:02 AM »
YES.  Take the link down, get yourselves on the referral free list.
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« Reply #62 on: August 02, 2007, 12:03:58 AM »
The NYRA problem would seem to be NYRA's problem.

If you want to throw an organization under the rug because they merely link to someone who links to someone else you don't like, then that's your prerogative.  Please let everyone know, though, that that is the sole reason for your boycott.
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« Reply #63 on: August 02, 2007, 12:04:07 AM »
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A brief history of CAFETY (as well as the words behind the acronym) please.

//bump\ ...thnx in advance.
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« Reply #64 on: August 02, 2007, 12:08:43 AM »
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The NYRA problem would seem to be NYRA's problem.

If you want to throw an organization under the rug because they merely link to someone who links to someone else you don't like, then that's your prerogative.  Please let everyone know, though, that that is the sole reason for your boycott.


No the sole reason for my boycott, and I only speak for myself, is CAFETY's unwillingness to deal with a member of their board who belongs to an organization that links with CAICA.

Cafety Links to the NYRA

NYRA links to CAICA...

Isabelle who runs CAICA posted a blog shit talking the survivors and parents of Whitmore Academy.

CAFETY seems willing to ignore that link between the two organizations.
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« Reply #65 on: August 02, 2007, 12:10:01 AM »
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The NYRA problem would seem to be NYRA's problem.

If you want to throw an organization under the rug because they merely link to someone who links to someone else you don't like, then that's your prerogative.  Please let everyone know, though, that that is the sole reason for your boycott.


PURE should be PURE's problem, but as we've seen with CAICA, the tentacles spread far and wide.  Where is Alex in all this?
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« Reply #66 on: August 02, 2007, 12:11:22 AM »
Community Alliance for the Ethical Treatment of Youth.
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« Reply #67 on: August 02, 2007, 12:12:04 AM »
Wish I had a dollar for every acronym on this thread... carry on...  ::argue::
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« Reply #68 on: August 02, 2007, 12:15:25 AM »
How much weed could you score for all those dollars?
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« Reply #69 on: August 02, 2007, 12:15:40 AM »
Let's not forget that:
ALEX is on the CAFETY BOARD.
ALEX is the Executive Director of NYRA

ALEX has posted on Fornits that he supports Isabelle Zehnder.CAICA; even tho he has been provided with all documentation on Whitmore Academy; and he is aware of the Whitmore Blog written by Zehnder.

CAFETY Links to NYRA

NYRA Links to and approves of Isabella Zehnder/CAICA.

NOTE:  Zehnder/CAICA links to Sue Scheff/PURE

Therefore:  CAFETY is indirectly linking to Scheff/PURE.

GET IT?
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« Reply #70 on: August 02, 2007, 12:16:00 AM »
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Community Alliance for the Ethical Treatment of Youth.


People's Front of Judea
Judean Peoples' Front...

Any Python fans in the house?  This reminds me of Life of Brian, which I guess it kind of is, huh? Right, B.?
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« Reply #71 on: August 02, 2007, 12:17:30 AM »
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How much weed could you score for all those dollars?

Not much in Korea.. LOL..

How'd that go, btw?
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« Reply #72 on: August 02, 2007, 12:17:31 AM »
I understand your hesitancy.  I don't think it's illegitimate.

I do question, though, the inclination to jump to the worst possible conclusion.  

Are you aware of the decision making process that took place?

Have you sent cafety an email asking for a reason behind the actions?

If the decision making process was explained to you, would you then feel more comfortable with the decision?

What I've been reading in these few threads is a sort of all or nothing approach.  See it my way, or we boycott.  I think that can lead to many more problems which need not arise.  Talking trash on Fornits is fun and all, but it seems more people than not are being accused without a good foundation being established first.   Do you really want to trash a whole group of dedicated individuals who you would probably get on with just fine in real life and share many of the same values, merely because of a link?
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« Reply #73 on: August 02, 2007, 12:20:02 AM »
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Let's not forget that:
ALEX is on the CAFETY BOARD.
ALEX is the Executive Director of NYRA

ALEX has posted on Fornits that he supports Isabelle Zehnder.CAICA; even tho he has been provided with all documentation on Whitmore Academy; and he is aware of the Whitmore Blog written by Zehnder.

CAFETY Links to NYRA

NYRA Links to and approves of Isabella Zehnder/CAICA.

NOTE:  Zehnder/CAICA links to Sue Scheff/PURE

Therefore:  CAFETY is indirectly linking to Scheff/PURE.

GET IT?
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« Reply #74 on: August 02, 2007, 12:20:54 AM »
There wasn't any hesitancy on my part. I honestly don't give a flying pound of monkey shit why CAFERTY has this link.

It is wrong.

Nothing more nothing less.

They've known about this for months and have refused to do anything about it.

That to me is the deciding factor in why I view CAFERTY in the way I do. They broke the trust with a bunch of abused kids and betrayed parents from Whitmore.

So fuck em.
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