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Offline nimdA

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« Reply #90 on: August 02, 2007, 12:57:41 AM »
So repeatedly uttering the fact that CAFETY has for a long time now tolerated a board member's alliance to an organization that refers kids to programs is now shit slinging?

Ok then.

Keep swinging at air chief.
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« Reply #91 on: August 02, 2007, 01:03:52 AM »
Blombro was here posting; and if I recall correctly he called fornits posters CULT MEMBERS among other things.  He did apologize.  But, that is what he did.
Alex posted, and more-or-less told posters here to kiss-his-ass because he does, and will continue to support Zehnder/CAICA.

So, who else should we talk to?
KAT remains silent on this issue; just as she remained silent on the Kevin August issue.  You aske her to return emails, OK?
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« Reply #92 on: August 02, 2007, 01:04:38 AM »
There have been many more accusations besides cafety 'tolerating' someone.  If you are trying to act as if you have been an angel in this whole affair, I would refer you to this link:

http://http://wwf.fornits.com/search.php?search_author=TS+Waygookin
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« Reply #93 on: August 02, 2007, 01:04:47 AM »
Quote from: ""Guest""
Zen Agent:
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Guest wrote:

Are you aware of the decision making process that took place?


No. It obviously wasn't well thought out.

Guest wrote:
Have you sent cafety an email asking for a reason behind the actions?


No. I'd rather find out from someone I trust, like A START.

Guest wrote:
If the decision making process was explained to you, would you then feel more comfortable with the decision?


Would that change the fact it's wrong?

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What I've been reading in these few threads is a sort of all or nothing approach. See it my way, or we boycott. I think that can lead to many more problems which need not arise. Talking trash on Fornits is fun and all, but it seems more people than not are being accused without a good foundation being established first. Do you really want to trash a whole group of dedicated individuals who you would probably get on with just fine in real life and share many of the same values, merely because of a link?


You contradict yourself. You dismiss any dialog on Fornits as "trash", yet you do seem to take a boycott seriously, perhaps because of the number of registered users here, as opposed to the rather pitiful number on CAFETY.

We keep pointing out the foundation...you keep digging new holes. And who the hell are you?


I would suggest that you talk to them about their decision making process if you are truly concerned enough to boycott them.

You say you don't think the decision making process was well thought out, yet you have no idea what it was/is.  How's that work? You don't even know if it's over yet.  Is this boycott because CAFETY doesn't work fast enough for you?

You haven't asked cafety why they are doing what they are doing, yet you take the word from organizations like HEAL and random people on Fornits? Something is wrong with that. It's always best to get word first hand before you jump to conclusions.

I did not dismiss any dialog on fornits as trash, I said quote "Talking trash on Fornits is fun and all..." which was intended to the people talking trash...on fornits... I did not say everyone on fornits talks trash.  Please do not mince my words.


I thought I was clear.  I know this problem has been apparent for a while.  You didn't care then.  I would think this would be an easy, black and white decision.  If it's still going on, no wonder CAFETY is viewed as a lumbering beast tied up in discussion more than action.

You're really boring, you know that?  You're whirling like a dervish and saying nothing.
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« Reply #94 on: August 02, 2007, 01:07:35 AM »
"A lumbering beast tied up in discussion more than action..."

That's almost flattering. I had no idea CAFETY was a "beast." I will say, though, there aren't too many other organizations out there that have had more action taken than CAFETY.  As far as not addressing a rather trivial linking issue in accordance with your time frame, I'm sorry that it hasn't been handled to your liking.
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« Reply #95 on: August 02, 2007, 01:15:22 AM »
Months are not a time frame. Taking months to deal with something so academic is a failure.
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« Reply #96 on: August 02, 2007, 01:16:00 AM »
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"A lumbering beast tied up in discussion more than action..."

That's almost flattering. I had no idea CAFETY was a "beast." I will say, though, there aren't too many other organizations out there that have had more action taken than CAFETY.  As far as not addressing a rather trivial linking issue in accordance with your time frame, I'm sorry that it hasn't been handled to your liking.


It seems a lot of people don't think it's trivial, or you wouldn't be here.  Don't be smarmy.  I'm not trying to flatter you, you're an obnoxious asshole with a fragile ego.  "My liking"?  Did you come here to to provoke arguments or explain your "decisions"?  

I'll boycott CAFETY simply because of you.  Wish you had the balls to at least sign in with your CAFETY handle.  Can't expect that from the likes of CAFETY, though.
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« Reply #97 on: August 02, 2007, 01:19:35 AM »
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Well if it doesn't affect cafety at all why are you over here doing damage control?

Damned good question....hehehe...
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« Reply #98 on: August 02, 2007, 01:26:56 AM »
Listen Zen, you don't know me and I have said nothing that should upset you personally. For you to try and attack me personally is a bit out of line.  I was being lighthearted responding to your attacks.  Please stop the noise that doesn't need to be in this conversation.

I have stated my position.
There is a link on NYRA that has a warning above it and it leads to CAICA.  CAFETY links to NYRA.  CAFETY does not and will not link to CAICA. CAFETY does not approve of CAICA.  It is thought that it isn't in the best interest of the community to sever ties with any person or organization that hasn't done anything really wrong without a lot of discussion involved.  I'm sorry if you feel it's a black and white issue, but it is not.  There are many things to think about.

You have a problem with the indirect link. That is very much understood. I have kindly and rationally laid out what I think of the situation, and you come back with insults.

I'm pretty sure we are done here.
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« Reply #99 on: August 02, 2007, 01:27:38 AM »
Froderick - I have stated my reason for that twice now.
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« Reply #100 on: August 02, 2007, 01:29:11 AM »
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Listen Zen, you don't know me and I have said nothing that should upset you personally. For you to try and attack me personally is a bit out of line.  I was being lighthearted responding to your attacks.  Please stop the noise that doesn't need to be in this conversation.

I have stated my position.
There is a link on NYRA that has a warning above it and it leads to CAICA.  CAFETY links to NYRA.  CAFETY does not and will not link to CAICA. CAFETY does not approve of CAICA.  It is thought that it isn't in the best interest of the community to sever ties with any person or organization that hasn't done anything really wrong without a lot of discussion involved.  I'm sorry if you feel it's a black and white issue, but it is not.  There are many things to think about.

You have a problem with the indirect link. That is very much understood. I have kindly and rationally laid out what I think of the situation, and you come back with insults.

I'm pretty sure we are done here.



Bye bye now Brian.
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« Reply #101 on: August 02, 2007, 01:29:41 AM »
I'm done for the evening.  Anonymous CAFETY shill, you've done an incredible amount of damage to your organization tonight by talking out of your ass.  

I know Fornits has a reputation for being profane and juvenile, so I'll close by calling you a worthless douche nozzle.  Thanks for sputtering nothing.  Take your time with your "decision", by the time you make it nobody will give a shit.
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« Reply #102 on: August 02, 2007, 01:36:13 AM »
This isn't Brian, and I doubt I did anything but help clear up the real issue here. Of course you two have a predisposition of insulting anyone disagreeing with you, so I wouldn't expect kind words.

If the only real insult you have left is that I did nothing but go around in circles, then I can live with that.  I hope th others who have read this thread can see what I'm trying to say.

Hope we can agree on something else at some point.



Just out of curiosity, how exactly did I damage CAFETY tonight?
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« Reply #103 on: August 02, 2007, 01:41:01 AM »
I hate anonymous program creeps. Why don't we make them register? I think we should, just for laughs.
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« Reply #104 on: August 02, 2007, 02:13:55 AM »
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This isn't Brian, and I doubt I did anything but help clear up the real issue here. Of course you two have a predisposition of insulting anyone disagreeing with you, so I wouldn't expect kind words.

If the only real insult you have left is that I did nothing but go around in circles, then I can live with that.  I hope th others who have read this thread can see what I'm trying to say.

Hope we can agree on something else at some point.





Just out of curiosity, how exactly did I damage CAFETY tonight?


By going in circles saying nothing, proving you're a nobody with no input at CAFETY.  I guess you're a supporter, but not on the board, otherwise I would hope you would have solid answers and not dodges and accusations.

I would PM you with some more confidential information, but you're an anon.

Don't put on an indignant act, I was returning the insults. If you think I insulted you, you're thin-skinned.  I could have (metaphorically) gutted you like a fish and you would have (literally) cried yourself to sleep.  I've been reasonably patient considering the mealy-mouthed, snide bullshit you've spouted while pointing fingers and deflecting direct questions.  This is your problem.  Deal with it any way you want.  You can link to WWASP, for all I give a shit, but I'll be damned sure that your position on the industry is brought up with the GAO investigator I speak with.  You think everybody on Fornits is talking trash - keep in mind I used to post quite often on CAFETY, with no complaints.  You're going to lose support, dry up and blow away like shit dust.
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