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Interesting tidbit from the mouth of the ca-ca fatcat, Izzy.
« Reply #300 on: June 26, 2007, 09:23:01 PM »
I looked at "your" website several times.  I know Sandy has green eyes.. why don't you?
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« Reply #301 on: June 26, 2007, 09:23:21 PM »
The Ministry of Education and Youth in Kingston, Jamaica responded to CAICA’S complaint to confirm that they have launched an investigation. There are rumors that the facility may be closing.

Results!!  Go to show when concerned people work together, changes happen!  

What do you do to assist other parents?  What do you do other than wait for your opportunity to bash others?
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« Reply #302 on: June 26, 2007, 09:23:40 PM »
Quote from: ""Not Buyin' it""
Quote from: ""Sandy""
I'm sorry that your past experiences tainted you for life.
The hate runs deep.  Sorry you all lived through what you did, what could you do to make a difference for the kids in the programs now?

All I see is alot of made up stories, insults and vulgar inuendos.


No hate - except maybe toward child-advocate-referrers.  But you can understand that.  Survivors do tend to have bad feelings toward the people who profited from referring them to some hellhole program.

As for making a difference?  Most of the folks here are involved in doing just that.  May I suggest you do the same instead of defending someone (IZZY) who apparently many believe is part of the problem, not the solution?

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« Reply #303 on: June 26, 2007, 09:25:55 PM »
Quote from: ""Paris""
I looked at "your" website several times.  I know Sandy has green eyes.. why don't you?


Well...... "Paris"  because I just joined this site today and don't know HOW to customize the avatars that they have available.  Tell me how to post my pic and I will gladly do so.   Where's your pic?
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« Reply #304 on: June 26, 2007, 09:28:12 PM »
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June 26 at 1:28 AM this "parent" starting posting as GUEST V

June 26 2007 7:11 PM
GUEST V   posts:
"I'm sorry you don't like Isabelle, but she helped MY DAUGHTER and me through a terrible time."

June 26   7:52 PM
GUEST V posts:
"You think I enjoyed being away from MY SON?"

This "parent" imposter can't even keep the gender of the kid straight.

GIVE IT UP.


No, you didn't follow the sequence of events.  The daughter was with her when she saw the beaten kid @ TB.
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« Reply #305 on: June 26, 2007, 09:33:30 PM »
Quote from: ""Guest""
Quote from: ""Not Buyin' it""
Quote from: ""Sandy""
I'm sorry that your past experiences tainted you for life.
The hate runs deep.  Sorry you all lived through what you did, what could you do to make a difference for the kids in the programs now?

All I see is alot of made up stories, insults and vulgar inuendos.

No hate - except maybe toward child-advocate-referrers.  But you can understand that.  Survivors do tend to have bad feelings toward the people who profited from referring them to some hellhole program.

As for making a difference?  Most of the folks here are involved in doing just that.  May I suggest you do the same instead of defending someone (IZZY) who apparently many believe is part of the problem, not the solution?

 :roll:
What program did you recently get investigated?

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who apparently many believe is

Apparently they are sadly mistaken~
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Interesting tidbit from the mouth of the ca-ca fatcat, Izzy.
« Reply #306 on: June 26, 2007, 09:37:19 PM »
LOL - CAICA is going to have a very hard time claiming they had anything to do with Tranquilty Bay being investigated, much less closing as a result of some letter she wrote.  

The State Department has dozens, probably many hundreds of affadavits from survivors of TB and correspondence with other advocates alleging abuse on record to show that TB has been the subject of an investigation long before IZZY showed up on the scene in February 2007.  Just do a search of Fornits archives or contact the State Department, US Embassy in Jamaica, or ISAC.

Sounds to me like this is just IZZY tooting her own horn again, hoping to deflect attention away from the growing wave of criticism directed toward her and her apparent referral of children to unregulated programs and transporters?

Oh well.  If nothing else, this is proving to be highly informative for other parents who may be thinking of sending their kid to any program, WWASPS or PURE's, ASPEN, etc.

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« Reply #307 on: June 26, 2007, 09:43:26 PM »
Hey Sandy and IZZY, how many kids did Scheffie refer to WWASPS programs both before and AFTER she started PURE?

You should be ashamed of yourselves using Fornits to spread your propaganda.

Get a life!

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« Reply #308 on: June 26, 2007, 09:44:03 PM »
Sandy,

You posted the "story of your step-daughter"--and her release from TB.
Assume you had this step-daughter's permission to reveal her identity, and her kinship to the Lucille Ball family; and all the personal information you disclosed about this girl.
From your posting, it seems that YOUR CONNECTION to this girl: is this girl is a "love child" of your ex-husband's."
So--how did you and Izzy become so involved in this girl being released from TB?
How did you find the escorts to get this girl out of TB?
How did you know SUE and MARIE?  Why were these 2 women even discussed with you?
Other than Patti, have you referred any other people to Isabelle, Sue or Marie?
Are you paid for such referrals?
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« Reply #309 on: June 26, 2007, 09:46:27 PM »
Quote from: ""v""
Sorensons was a bad decision because it was too transitional for my son and he got himself kicked out, like some kids try and do, and succeed.

RRCS, I think I have already done enough research and I am comfortable with where I sent him.  Oh, and if you want to know where his dad is...he's in an urn over the fireplace.


Did you do enough research on the other programs?  If you have done enough research .. why are you here?  What is the point?  You came here to defend Isabelle Zehnder?  You have access to many many many survivors some of which may have come from the facilities in which your son was subjected to.. so you could be prepared for your son's return home..  (if that is what you have planned) and yet.. you still need to defend people who refer to abusive programs?  

I smell BS
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« Reply #310 on: June 26, 2007, 09:47:09 PM »
Do you have an education of a 5th grader?  My son is in the program, my daughter and I witness the abuse at TB.  Isabelle helped my daughter and me through the process of what to do because at that point we didn't trust anyone!  You are a jerk!
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Interesting tidbit from the mouth of the ca-ca fatcat, Izzy.
« Reply #311 on: June 26, 2007, 09:52:26 PM »
Quote from: ""Sandy""
Quote from: ""Paris""
I looked at "your" website several times.  I know Sandy has green eyes.. why don't you?

Well...... "Paris"  because I just joined this site today and don't know HOW to customize the avatars that they have available.  Tell me how to post my pic and I will gladly do so.   Where's your pic?


"busted"  hello Sue.
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« Reply #312 on: June 26, 2007, 09:53:02 PM »
GAYLE PALMER DEGRAFF.  The person responsible for the tortuous death of Michelle Sutton.  Reportedly works with Sue Scheff (see WWASPS v. PURE transcripts).

MARIE PEART: Former Admissions Rep. for Cross Creek Manor (WWASPS).  So-Called Parent Advocate, Consultant and Associate of Sue Scheff (PURE)

See News Reports about Criminal Background of Marie Peart posted on Fornits.

MARK AND CHERYL SUDWEEKS Former Owners of now defunct Whitmore Academy.  History includes running afoul of laws in three countries:  Canada, Mexico and the U.S.  Currenly embroiled in a civil lawsuit brought by parents and children of Whitmore Academy.

Izzy is acquainted with all 4 of these people, is she not?
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« Reply #313 on: June 26, 2007, 09:53:10 PM »
Sandy,

You may be missing two simple points:
Isabelle Zehnder clearly states on her website, CAICA that she does not refer to any programs.
Isabelle referred Patti to Sue Scheff/PURE, who places children in programs.

Isabelle Zehnder DENOUNCES WWASP and she has written articles that DENOUNCE teen transport companies, one article---"Escort or Abduction--Your Decide."
Isabelle referred Patti to Sunrise Adolescent Transport, which is owned by Julie Thompson, a former WWASP employee.

These are simple facts; and these are not the actions of a child advocate.
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Interesting tidbit from the mouth of the ca-ca fatcat, Izzy.
« Reply #314 on: June 26, 2007, 09:53:12 PM »
Quote from: ""Guest""
Sandy,

You posted the "story of your step-daughter"--and her release from TB.
Assume you had this step-daughter's permission to reveal her identity, and her kinship to the Lucille Ball family; and all the personal information you disclosed about this girl.
From your posting, it seems that YOUR CONNECTION to this girl: is this girl is a "love child" of your ex-husband's."
So--how did you and Izzy become so involved in this girl being released from TB?
How did you find the escorts to get this girl out of TB?
How did you know SUE and MARIE?  Why were these 2 women even discussed with you?
Other than Patti, have you referred any other people to Isabelle, Sue or Marie?
Are you paid for such referrals?


Dear "Guest",
If you truly expect answers, then quit hiding and put your name out there. It's so easy in this internet world to say what you want and not be accountable, isn't it? Step up to the plate and be a real person. I am not hiding behind a guest ID.
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