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Interesting tidbit from the mouth of the ca-ca fatcat, Izzy.
« Reply #270 on: June 26, 2007, 05:43:38 PM »
LOL - and we should believe this parent who has seemingly appeared out of thin air to sing the praises of Isabelle Zehnder because ... gasp ... Isabelle was DUPED ... and oh, by the way, she has been providing FREE counseling services ...

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Interesting tidbit from the mouth of the ca-ca fatcat, Izzy.
« Reply #271 on: June 26, 2007, 05:46:56 PM »
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LOL - and we should believe this parent who has seemingly appeared out of thin air to sing the praises of Isabelle Zehnder because ... gasp ... Isabelle was DUPED ... and oh, by the way, she has been providing FREE counseling services ...

:lol:


Whoops - I mean free "C O A C H I N G" Services.

Hmmm.  How's that saying go ... there's no such thing as a free lunch?
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Interesting tidbit from the mouth of the ca-ca fatcat, Izzy.
« Reply #272 on: June 26, 2007, 05:54:05 PM »
Would someone please explain how one "dupes" somebody into referring children to unregulated teen treatment programs and transport services?  Does Isabelle Zehnder not have a mind of her own?  The power to make choices?  The ability to determine right from wrong?  Is she not a child but a woman in her 50's?  How was she "duped"?
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« Reply #273 on: June 26, 2007, 06:18:40 PM »
Quote from: ""Not Buyin' it""
Since bringing my child home, Isabelle has been actively coaching me and my child; so a return to any facility would not be necessary.  At no charge.


I see that Isabelle creates results.  


This parent is pathetic, and leaches like Isabelle seek out these people to fleece. Yes, I know you love your new program more than the old one. It's free because you are one of Isabelle's first clients.
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Interesting tidbit from the mouth of the ca-ca fatcat, Izzy.
« Reply #274 on: June 26, 2007, 06:39:07 PM »
Duped?  Sounds to me like it's the parent/client who is confused!  

Read Isabelle Zehnder's blog, which in her own words, explains in considerable detail the NATURE and PURPOSE of her association with Sue Scheff, PURE and other professionals.  

http://isabellezehnder-suescheff.blogspot.com/
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« Reply #275 on: June 26, 2007, 06:43:38 PM »
One more thing I failed to clarify as to why Isabelle gave the MW phone number to Patti was because I pulled my MW folder, and pulled the Sunrise contract.  It had been over a year, and I had several numbers written on the contract sheet.  I gave all of them to Isabelle, one of which I noted was not the same area code.  So that was my mistake, not Isabelle's.  She only forwarded the numbers had given her.
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Re: MW v Transport
« Reply #276 on: June 26, 2007, 06:55:32 PM »
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One more thing I failed to clarify as to why Isabelle gave the MW phone number to Patti was because I pulled my MW folder, and pulled the Sunrise contract.  It had been over a year, and I had several numbers written on the contract sheet.  I gave all of them to Isabelle, one of which I noted was not the same area code.  So that was my mistake, not Isabelle's.  She only forwarded the numbers had given her.


Sure, makes sense to me.

Izzy is not to blame.  Some phantom parent/client is at fault.

I tell ya what, why don't you post your email address so one of the Fornits Bullshit Patrol Volunteers can contact you and take your official statement?  Let's get this cleared up now before we waste anymore of Fornits valuable bandwidth, shall we?

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« Reply #277 on: June 26, 2007, 06:59:57 PM »
Doesn't Izzy advertise on CAICA that she only gives out 30 MIINUTES of FREE COACHING...then the clock starts running??????

Izzy did quote her fees.
$2,500 for 3 months of coaching which included the following:
One  hourly coaching session BY PHONE to the parent.
One  hourly coaching session BY PHONE to the child.

Now, why would Izzy coach this "posting parent and her kid" for free, when Izzy can demand such fees?
Is Izzy also admitting she appears to be a very poor business woman?

And Izzy is claiming she was "duped?"
Izzy had mails flying to SANDY and PATTI  ..and Izzy had the phones ringing to PATTI.  Izzy may claim she was "duped," BUT each posted email reveals that this so-called- DUPED WOMAN was referring to Sue Scheff, and Marie at PURE.  Izzy's own words reveal that she referred to Sunrise Adolescent Transport.

Izzy has the RIGHT to refer to anyone she chooses, doesn't she?
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Interesting tidbit from the mouth of the ca-ca fatcat, Izzy.
« Reply #278 on: June 26, 2007, 07:05:22 PM »
Izzy's Coaching fees:  The sessions above were weekly sessions.
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« Reply #279 on: June 26, 2007, 07:11:48 PM »
You want me to post my email here for everyone to see, after all the name calling, and bashing me?  I only think you would use it to bombard me with spam, or email me terrible messages.  I have heard of that being done to parents who had their kids in the program.  And just for the record, I had no choice or else the DA would prosecute, so quit calling me a terrible parent, I did everything for my son to keep him from having to go this route, and you people know that.

Furthermore, I only came here by accident while I was surfing for more information on the closure of TB.  I am sorry you don't like Isabelle, but she helped my daughter and me through a terrible time, and I don't understand why you have it out for her.  She's helped so many families, I don't get it.  If you bash advocates, there will be no one left to police these programs, or get the word out.  You're doing everyone an injustice, at least that's how I see it.
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Re: email
« Reply #280 on: June 26, 2007, 07:24:57 PM »
Quote from: ""v""
If you bash advocates, there will be no one left to police these programs, or get the word out.  You're doing everyone an injustice, at least that's how I see it.


Isabelle Isn't an advocate.  She is PR for PURE (Sue Scheff).  She only hates programs she doesn't refer to by proxy(sue).  Why do you think Whitmore isn't on her watchlist.  Why do you think she blogs on and on and on defending Whitmore (at the same time as Sue Scheff).  The text of many blogs are often even IDENTICAL to Sue's.

It's not like anybody can debate that Whitmore was an abusive school.  Cheryl Sudweeks was charged 7 counts of child abuse, and plead no contest, YEARS AGO and Izzy and sue are STILL defending the place (which Sue received 10% of the tuition for each child she referred to that hellhole).  Why?  Why don't they say "oops, we were DUPED"?

Isabelle Zehnder is not an advocate for any cause other than her own interests, and those of her crooked "friends".  Save me the bullshit.  If you really sent your kid to all those schools you would have to be the DUMBEST fucking parent alive.  It's not like a simple Google search doesn't reveal MOUNTAINS of evidence against each and every one of those places.

Shit.  If you are a parent you deserve a place in the Fornits hall of fame.
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Interesting tidbit from the mouth of the ca-ca fatcat, Izzy.
« Reply #281 on: June 26, 2007, 07:31:32 PM »
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If you bash advocates, there will be no one left to police these programs, or get the word out. You're doing everyone an injustice, at least that's how I see it.


No one is bashing advocates.   Izzy and Sue aren't advocates.  Do you know what an advocate is?
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« Reply #282 on: June 26, 2007, 07:41:58 PM »
An advocate is anyone who thinks that sleeping with program moms is a good idea. ::seg::
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« Reply #283 on: June 26, 2007, 07:52:18 PM »
Psy

Then it's a good thing you don't have my name.  You are about the most unbelievable person I have ever spoken to.  I had no choice!  Did you hear that?  I didn't get my kid kicked out of two of the schools, so do the math.  It's not like I wanted to send him.  I don't freakin' google, not until recently, I didn't know, I heard rumors, other parents squashed those rumors, probably because they were getting kickbacks from WWASP for referrals, like they tried to suck me into.  You think I enjoy being away from my son?  Do you honestly think I wanted him in an abusive program?  You're absolutely crazy.  And I am done with the inquisition.

I hope you find what you're looking for.  Best wishes.  V.
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Interesting tidbit from the mouth of the ca-ca fatcat, Izzy.
« Reply #284 on: June 26, 2007, 08:01:21 PM »
I have a hard time believing this is a real parent, that's just me though.
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