Academy at Swift River - Split from TTI

[RobertBruce]

Yet they provide case work services and claim to be a theraputic boarding school, on top of the fact that children services told them they were in clear violation of the law.

Explain that.

[Lacey]

There have been several mentions of TBS's being compared to Public Highschools to disprove the neccessity of things like unmonitered communication to abuse authorities.

HLA staff used to pull this when we'd complain about the horrendous food at HLA. They would always respond "Well, we had to eat bad food in high school too, all school food is crappy."  But the big difference??

YOU GET TO GO HOME EACH DAY AT PUBLIC SCHOOL. You're not forced to eat that food 24/7, 365 days a year. There is a break from the crappy food for nutrition at home.

Same thing with this. TheWho, you may not have had access to private phones from school, but when that 3 O Clock bell rang, and you and your fellow students returned to the comfort of your own home, if something horrible had happened to you that day regarding abuse, could you not use your home phone, or a pay phone, or better yet, just WALK up to the nearest police officer and tell them what happened??? Absolutely! Not the case AT ALL at TBS's. HLA, or ASR (so we're hearing) or any of the mutlitude of programs modeled after these schools.

So all this talk about TBS's being safer than public school, this LONE fact makes that statement laughable! Not even taking into consideration the abuse that HAS gone on and CONTINUES to go on, that you refuse to acknowledge.

At HLA, I was NEVER taken off conference calls. Thats not the little room here the counselor or staff takes notes on the phone call. Thats in the counselors office, my parents on speakerphone, counselors interjecting everytime they didn't agree with what I said. That was my ONLY communication to my parents, along with emails that were first emailed to the counselors, then passed on to the appropriate parties. There was no chance or opportunity for private communication with ANYONE.

Sorry, Who. Nothing you peddle here is changing the truth about this industry. Its NOT. SAFE.

[TheWho]

So it seems this law doesnt apply to Boarding Schools, high schools, middle schools.  Its good to get this cleared up.................

[RobertBruce]

Yes Who, tell us more about how many public schools and traditional boarding schools have mandatory therapy three times a week. Tell us how many prevent kids from calling home for weeks at a time.

[RobertBruce]

So it seems this law doesnt apply to Boarding Schools, high schools, middle schools. Its good to get this cleared up.................

Guess it's a good thing ASR acknowledges they're a theraputic boarding school then huh?

[Troll Control]

So it seems this law doesnt apply to Boarding Schools, high schools, middle schools.  Its good to get this cleared up.................

Boarding schools must be licensed by the DOE and are forbidden from restricting contact, screening mail or monitoring communications.

So we have established ASR violates this law.

Once more, The Who does not care and is not bothered by the fact that abused kids at ASR are illegally prevented from communicating their abuse.  This is the most important point of this thread.

As an aside, earlier in the thread, Who stated ASR was a "hybrid," part treatment center and part school.  If it's a TC, there must be an abuse hotline.  If it's a school, it is forbidden from restricting communications of residents.  Take your pick.  Either way, ASR proves to be a dangerous place where abuse cannot be reported, and that's just fine with The Who.  

He really is a mental defective any way you cut it up.

[TheWho]

DJ wrote:

He really is a mental defective any way you cut it up.

Ha,Ha,Ha,  well in that case I should be required to have an “abuse hot line” in  my house… True?

Sorry, DJ, He said, she said…should they… shouldn’t they.  This is why we have laws so we need to refer to them for our answer and it is clear that a hot line is not needed.  

Wow, we really came a long way from whether a child has enough phone time with his or her parents.  Its led us on a good discussion, though.  It will be interesting to see how this pans out over time.

[Troll Control]

Yepper.  It culminated in your crowning glory!  A more mentally defective statement has never been uttered in regard to child rape:

Now, let's examine this, Who: Let's say, for argument's sake that a kid's very own counselor sexually abuses him/her. ASR's plan, as you verified with them like I did, is to have that child report the abuse directly to the person that perpetrated it.

This is downright scary and paves the road for child abuse. I would avoid this facility at all costs. It's dangerous!

Sure, DJ, of course it is possible.  The guy on the abuse hot line could talk dirty to the kids also...

I don't know whether to  :lol:  or  ::mecry::

[TheWho]

I think I made him mad again ....  The law is the law DJ .... You can take your frustration out on me, I can take it.  But after you calm down the law will still be there, it wont change unless the voters want it to.... thats a lot of people, I am only one.

[RobertBruce]

TheWho wrote

This is why we have laws so we need to refer to them for our answer and it is clear that a hot line is not needed.

According to you it is needed.

The law you posted applied to mental hospitals. didnt see anything required for boarding schools or TBS's.
So I guess it is fair to say there is no requirement... the rest is moot

And according to ASR they are in fact a TBS, or better known as a theraputic boarding school.

The Academy at Swift River is a private college preparatory therapeutic boarding school located in western Massachusetts. Swift River fosters personal growth and healthy self-expression in adolescents, inspires academic excellence, and teaches individual responsibility and service to others.

http://www.swiftriver.com/

Therefore we can now safely conclude that ASR is in fact a theraputic boarding school and by your own addmission are subject the law in question. Thanks for clearing that up Cindy, I guess the only thing thats left to figure out is why ASR is so knowingly breaking the law.

Any thoughts?

[RobertBruce]

I think I made him mad again ....  The law is the law DJ .... You can take your frustration out on me, I can take it.  But after you calm down the law will still be there, it wont change unless the voters want it to.... thats a lot of people, I am only one.

Youre right Cindy, the law is the law. So why is ASR breaking it?

[Troll Control]

It's a simple concept, RB.

Houses residents 24/7 and provides therapy = must have abuse hotline.

Plain old school = prohibited by law from screening or prohibiting communications.

Either way, whichever qualification you may choose to use, they are violating the law.  You pick which one.

Again, the bigger point here is that The Who condones and advocates disallowing kids from reporting abuse at ASR, as is their policy.

This single belief does more to shed light on the mentality of this man than a semantic argument that, either way, ASR is violating the law.  I believe it's important for people to know where he's coming from, and this does it with crystal clarity.

[TheWho]

you are grasping at straws.... read the requirements, the law and get comfortable with it or make a stand to change it.  Lets not blame each other here because of it...... the voters decided lets get them to change their minds!!!

[RobertBruce]

Cindy the only one who isnt clear on things here is you. Whether thats because the truth goes against your programming or you're just too stupid I do not know.

Either way the facts are clear, ASR is violating these kids rights, and is breaking the law. No way around it and the more you deny it, the less credibility you have, and the more of the fool you look.

[Anonymous]

TheWHo: Lets imagine for a moment your daughter was abused in horrible ways. Lets not forget that many kids are sexually abused in private programs. Would you of believed your daughter when she came home and told you this happened? Why or why not would you have believed such a horrible thing might happen? How do you think she would of felt if people she told who are supposed to care, when she got home, just laughed in her face and said, that's impossible, couldn't of happened , dear. Maybe you can empathize with a loved one like your daughter since you seem incapable of it with posters online, who are people just the same with parents also.