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« Reply #15 on: January 08, 2007, 01:20:02 PM »
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The header shows where the email was sent from, so detection can be just minutes away. I trace people like this all the time!


We're talking around each other.

The thing is this- if the kid intends to email someone for rescue, then he has to tell the rescuer where he is anyway! The header might show where the email was sent from, but if the person receiving the email won't snitch, who's going to know to look at it?

I'll add another point of advice- if you don't think you can quite trust the person you're contacting, don't contact him.
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« Reply #16 on: January 08, 2007, 01:44:04 PM »
Thanks for the links to Stand Up For Kids.  I just made a contribution and want to get involved in the outreach program.  I am so glad to know where I can direct my resources towards helping because I get so angry and frustrated reading about all the shit that goes down and wanting to help the kids; now I think I can actually do something about it.
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« Reply #17 on: January 08, 2007, 02:22:48 PM »
I think the ideal situation would be to somehow get a hold of a staff's keys, and take their car.
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« Reply #18 on: January 08, 2007, 02:37:40 PM »
And then get his address off a piece of paper left in the car, such as insurance documents. Then, drive to his house, and kill his wife and four-year-old son, cut the child's head off, and leave it on the front doorstep. :skull:
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« Reply #19 on: January 08, 2007, 02:44:50 PM »
Or not.
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« Reply #20 on: January 08, 2007, 02:50:33 PM »
I was hoping this thread wouldn't reach this point.

This is what we need to drive through society's head: harming children and adolescents is not acceptable. Ever. The staff might be monsters but your fellow inmates (and of course children not involved in this, Christ) are not targets. No matter how much you might hate the kid next to you in this, he is not your enemy. And no one "deserves to be there"; kids are sent to these places by the sadistic manipulations of professional child abusers, and the complacency and consent of their parents. Their own behavior has little to nothing to do with it.

And doing things like passing this crap down to your own children are no more acceptable than murdering a four-year-old for being the son of a staff member.
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« Reply #21 on: January 08, 2007, 03:08:10 PM »
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I think the ideal situation would be to somehow get a hold of a staff's keys, and take their car.


Thefts

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* Phillip W. Cooper, Knoxville, reported at 7:11 a.m. May 30 that, while he was doing counseling work at Peninsula Village, Jones Bend Road, Louisville, he was grabbed by one of the male juveniles in the group and his car keys fell from his pocket during the struggle. He said another of the youths picked up the keys, then the two boys left through a window. He said he later saw his car leave the property but did not know who was in the vehicle. Runaway reports were filed on the youths, a 17-year-old from Kingsport and a 16-year-old from Ohio, who are both in state custody.

Theft, filed 5/30/03, The Daily Times

"His car keys fell from his pocket during the struggle,"  Yeah, right.  The counselor got jacked, his keys were taken, two yoots left by the window, and the guy claims he was clueless about who was in the vehicle.  

There is no "escape" at Peninsula Village, they call it "elopement".   Escape makes it sound like the kids are at Villa del Peni against their will. Elopement sounds like a Vegas wedding, but I guess one of the above kids made a union between his foot and Phil the counselor's Pillsbury ass.

These facilities like to set up in rural, low income counties because they can offer jobs to the locals, bring in tax revenue and "tourism".
They can pad the local sheriff's campaign funds and keep him in office, ensuring he'll be their obedient bitch.  (Like the sheriff in Montana who looks the other way when shit happens at Spring Creek)

PV is in a rural shithole.  It's on Jones Bend Rd., a long stretch of blind curves that's a bitch driving the posted speed limit.  Imagine a teen in a stolen car hellbent on getting the fuck away at top speed.  Even if he makes it off Jones Bend Rd., he's still lost in the land of the inbred.

The other option is a large body of water.  I'd take my chances swimming across or stealing a boat off one of the docks.  It makes better use of the golden hour and would get you closer to Knoxville.

Oh, yeah, if a staffer overtakes you and you have boots or good shoes on, stomp on the top of the bastard's foot as hard as you can.  Those small bones break easily.
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\"Allah does not love the public utterance of hurtful speech, unless it be by one to whom injustice has been done; and Allah is Hearing, Knowing\" - The Qur\'an

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A PV counselor\'s description of his job:

\"I\'m there to handle kids that are psychotic, suicidal, homicidal, or have commited felonies. Oh yeah, I am also there to take them down when they are rowdy so the nurse can give them the booty juice.\"

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« Reply #22 on: January 08, 2007, 03:27:17 PM »
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And doing things like passing this crap down to your own children [is] no more acceptable than murdering a four-year-old for being the son of a staff member.

I agree!
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« Reply #23 on: January 08, 2007, 03:42:26 PM »
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And doing things like passing this crap down to your own children [is] no more acceptable than murdering a four-year-old for being the son of a staff member.
I agree!


Agreed! And Props for using the proper grammar and putting the dashes in "four year old", not a lot of people take the time to do that. It's nice to see people using proper grammar these days.
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« Reply #24 on: January 08, 2007, 03:43:07 PM »


things (like passing this crap down to your own children) are

things are
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« Reply #25 on: January 08, 2007, 04:32:16 PM »
Okay so the programs may/may not be dangerous, but it scares me to think of a kid running away and being alone out in the woods etc at night, what if they get bit by a snake or stuck in quicksand or something, there are a lot of what if's

Not all the kids are street-wise & we as adults would know to keep their head up and walk confidentally, but a kid wouldn't, it takes some serious bottle to even think about taking on any of these suggestions

There should be a place they can go in every town - but what does a 14 year old do once they've got away? They can't work, live alone, they won't trust anyone and will stick out like a sore thumb

It's a great ideal, but not a realistic one imo, it's just too scary as to what can happen
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« Reply #26 on: January 08, 2007, 04:45:44 PM »
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It's a great ideal, but not a realistic one imo, it's just too scary as to what can happen


Couldn't agree more, but it still happens all the time.  :cry:
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« Reply #27 on: January 08, 2007, 05:52:35 PM »
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Okay so the programs may/may not be dangerous, but it scares me to think of a kid running away and being alone out in the woods etc at night, what if they get bit by a snake or stuck in quicksand or something, there are a lot of what if's

Not all the kids are street-wise & we as adults would know to keep their head up and walk confidentally, but a kid wouldn't, it takes some serious bottle to even think about taking on any of these suggestions

There should be a place they can go in every town - but what does a 14 year old do once they've got away? They can't work, live alone, they won't trust anyone and will stick out like a sore thumb

It's a great ideal, but not a realistic one imo, it's just too scary as to what can happen


What's scarier is kids would rather take their chances with snakes, unknown terrain and hunger than stay in the program.  There are so many child advocates around who would be willing to help a program runaway, and one I know wouldn't be intimidated by the law enough to hand a kid back over to a hellhole.  A hotline to report abuse should be available in every facility, and the number of a local youth advocate group should also be posted.

If a kid is being abused to the point they take it on the heels at the first opportunity, they've got balls.  There need to be advocate groups with balls, too, to keep a program escapee safe while the shit is sorted from the truth.
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\"I\'m there to handle kids that are psychotic, suicidal, homicidal, or have commited felonies. Oh yeah, I am also there to take them down when they are rowdy so the nurse can give them the booty juice.\"

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« Reply #28 on: January 08, 2007, 05:55:35 PM »
Agreed

Are you telling me there is no helpline for kids in trouble where you are?  :(

here we have childline, it's free to call, the kid only has to pick up any phone and someone will help them
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« Reply #29 on: January 08, 2007, 06:21:08 PM »
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Agreed

Are you telling me there is no helpline for kids in trouble where you are?  :(

here we have childline, it's free to call, the kid only has to pick up any phone and someone will help them


There are "safe" zones for kids in urban areas, normally supermarkets, but no helpline I can think of that a kid would know off the top of his head.  Besides, I know from my own program kid that trusting anyone is difficult after you've been in an abusive facility for a while.  Who's to guarantee the hotline won't send someone to pick them up and return them to the pit?  

Peninsula Village doesn't allow the kids access to a phone at all.  The kids are told to write any abuse they're experiencing down on a 3x5 card, and an employee who is not "staff" will read it and take proper action.  As you can imagine, the kids don't fall for that shit, not more than once, anyway.  PV's policy is "Don't believe your kid when they tell you they're being abused, they're manipulating your feelings,"  Yeah, right.  I've got pictures of five bovine bitches squatting on my step daughter in what the PV staff called a "restraint".  Believe your kids, at least give them enough credit to demand an explanation from the program.  I know a girl who was restrained 75 times at PV.  Every time she tried to tell her father about the abuse during phone therapy sessions, the therapist would slam her hand down on the phone and end the call.  One of the father's rare personal visits was denied at the last minute by PV, because his daughter was so bruised and battered they didn't want him to see her.  The girl was also taken to hospital because the staff goons thought they had broken her jaw, and again because they suspected they had broken her arm.

I hate Peninsula Village, and the Nazi bullshit they call "treatment".
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\"Allah does not love the public utterance of hurtful speech, unless it be by one to whom injustice has been done; and Allah is Hearing, Knowing\" - The Qur\'an

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A PV counselor\'s description of his job:

\"I\'m there to handle kids that are psychotic, suicidal, homicidal, or have commited felonies. Oh yeah, I am also there to take them down when they are rowdy so the nurse can give them the booty juice.\"
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