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« on: January 06, 2007, 12:16:36 PM »
Do you think it's better to try and forget the bad parts of your life so you can move on? Or do you think it is better to relive the experiences through memory and writing, and by reminding yourself daily of the child torture that still continues today by reading about it?

What is your strategy for dealing with these things? Do you ever get to a point where you feel like you are dragging yourself down with negativity?

Do you ever feel like it would just be easier to forget everything about your past and start over and move on in a new city or something? Is that even possible?  :-?
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« Reply #1 on: January 06, 2007, 12:25:48 PM »
There was stuff I forgot whether I wanted to or not. It's just gone. (Chalk it up to old age.) I've compared notes with a fellow survivor who was there the same time I was. He would say "Don't you remember this?" and I honestly couldn't. *poit!* gone. That's just how it is.

There is a difference between forgetting and repressing. If you try to bury a memory that was traumatic, it will come back to bite you in the ass. It will affect your behavior and ability to function when you are triggered. As a result, there might be some impaired functionality.

We all forget things. But when you try to make yourself forget, that's when you can run into trouble.

hmmm... "dragging yourself down with negativity". I think that there are some of us who are on the obsessive side. (points to self) and the self-absorbed side (points to self). All I know is, I got over most of this years ago. All the anger, bitterness, resentment. Years later I found fornits and it was actually the first time I was able to talk about the experience (after I had deprogrammed myself) with other survivors. It was weird and new. I did it for a few months, and then got bored with it and left. I was probably gone half a year... then I came back. No idea why. Started talking about it in therapy again. No idea why. Read my notebooks for the first time since I graduated. No idea why. Actually started writing about the experience in detail on my online journal. First time I ever did that. No idea why.

My point is... it never leaves you. And a lot of times, you wonder why it comes back, even after all of the work you've done up to this point. It's just that some of us are more well-adjusted regarding this than others (points away from self).
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« Reply #2 on: January 06, 2007, 12:36:07 PM »
Interesting, thanks for the input.
My memories are not so much in detail anymore, they details are blurred out a lot. But the shades of color are always there, the surface of the inner lake of tranquility that is constantly being disturbed by that darn stone thrower on my banks. The feelings never go, even if the details do. I guess I am just curious how is it people get to be happy. Is that a myth? I feel like I am going to spend the rest of my life searching for something that doesn't neccessarily exist. That's what I watched my parents do and it never panned out for them. I've watched a lot of people do it and nothing. Sometimes I think happiness is the new myth being sold so that they can sell anti depressant drugs. Like the TV people are what represents reality when the real world is much less brightly colored, and will grit your teeth.
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« Reply #3 on: January 06, 2007, 12:45:52 PM »
Happiness is always relative,  never absolute. Did you ever meet one of those types of people who are always happy and cheerful? Fuck them, they're either faking or batshit insane. Regardless, they sure are annoying as fuck, and should probably be suffocated with one of their garfield dolls.

Best to simply enjoy the times you feel good, instead of making "happy" a goal. That's all anyone can hope for.



BTW, I updated my previous post. Don't know if it will help much.
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« Reply #4 on: January 06, 2007, 01:43:04 PM »
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There is a difference between forgetting and repressing. If you try to bury a memory that was traumatic, it will come back to bite you in the ass. It will affect your behavior and ability to function when you are triggered. As a result, there might be some impaired functionality.

I think this is where it gets kind of confusing because how do you know if you are assigning to much importance to certain times and incidents in your life. How does your mind go about picking the things that you remember, because out of all the shit that goes on day to day, we only remember a very small portion it seems like. If two people can have the same experience and one consider it good and one consider it bad, does that make one of them deficient in some way?

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Best to simply enjoy the times you feel good, instead of making "happy" a goal. That's all anyone can hope for.


What I try to do everyday. I like how you put it and you make a good point about the fake happy people. Like I was saying before, I don't think I've ever met anyone who fits the stereotypical happy and well rounded person. But a lot of people consider themselves that or try to be that, or force their children into prison until they become that, and I am just wondering if it even exists because this seems like one big cruel experiment in social science if you ask me.
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« Reply #5 on: January 06, 2007, 02:23:40 PM »
Quote from: ""try another castle""
Happiness is always relative,  never absolute.

Happiness is a warm gun...
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« Reply #6 on: January 06, 2007, 02:25:18 PM »
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how do you know if you are assigning to much importance to certain times and incidents in your life.

Good question. I don't know. Like I stated before, I'm obsessive. CEDU is cyclic with me. It goes away for a while, and then it comes back for a while. When it comes back, I have to think about it, and I think about it a lot. Then I get tired and it goes away again.

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How does your mind go about picking the things that you remember, because out of all the shit that goes on day to day, we only remember a very small portion it seems like.

Fuck, I can barely remember what I did yesterday. I don't have much of a choice in that. I also have schizoid tendencies, so I will forget people and faces who may have played an important role in my life at one point. I don't think you can choose what to remember, but when a memory is repressed, it's still there, not forgotten. Just latent. I don't really know the process that happens behind that, though.

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If two people can have the same experience and one consider it good and one consider it bad, does that make one of them deficient in some way?

I don't know. But it does make for some interesting arguments. I'm not sure deficient would be the operative term, here, if there was indeed an imbalance in functionality or intelligence. The diplomatic side of me says that it's important not to invalidate someone else's experience, even if you think their perception is completely fucked up. Let me put it this way, if someone viewed it as a good experience, fine. But if they then decide to form their own school, work as a youth counselor, send their own kid to a TBS, or pimp TBSes to other parents, then I get a little more brutal in my opinion of them. It's fine if you want to view your experience positively, it's another thing entirely if you want to subject someone else to it.

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I am just wondering if it even exists


No. It's a bunch of crap. It's used to convince people to consume and spend in search of it.
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« Reply #7 on: January 06, 2007, 02:26:06 PM »
Quote from: ""TOKER""
Quote from: ""try another castle""
Happiness is always relative,  never absolute.
Happiness is a warm gun...


Only if you have mirrors on your hobnail boots.
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« Reply #8 on: January 06, 2007, 02:33:21 PM »
Multicolored.  ::rainbow::
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« Reply #9 on: January 06, 2007, 03:09:13 PM »
I burned all my correspondence, letters, notes and journals years ago at the advice of a psychologist I was seeing at the time. I also wrote a letter to all the people who wronged me and then we burned it together in a symbolic gesture of moving on. But that obviously didn't work. Now I wish I had that paperwork to look through sometimes.

I think something that is pervasive is the attitude that perception is reality. Program parents are an extreme version of this. They desperately need to control the perception of what they are doing, both in public and their own minds.

It seems like a lot of people are doing that. I do it to all the time. Trying to build up an impressive exterior (good job, a house, car) to make the perception that I am doing fine and have my shit together, when the truth is much different than what people are seeing. So why are we all so obsessed with keeping up this perception in our society?

When you stop caring about keeping up your own perception, other people get angry. They don't want to see what really is there and so they try and change it. But I get to a point where I feel like building a paper castle has no point. Looking out from the inside I know it's all an illusion, so who is it really for. Not me. Time to burn this paper castle down.
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« Reply #10 on: January 06, 2007, 03:15:29 PM »
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It seems like a lot of people are doing that. I do it to all the time. Trying to build up an impressive exterior (good job, a house, car) to make the perception that I am doing fine and have my shit together, when the truth is much different than what people are seeing. So why are we all so obsessed with keeping up this perception in our society?

We're ~not all "so obsessed," etc.
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« Reply #11 on: January 06, 2007, 03:18:09 PM »
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Time to burn this paper castle down.

You could always try another castle. :P

"You know how they say that dreamers build their castles in the air, and lunatics live in them? Well, I clean them."

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So why are we all so obsessed with keeping up this perception in our society?


To get laid.
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« Reply #12 on: January 06, 2007, 03:23:53 PM »
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I guess I am just curious how is it people get to be happy. Is that a myth?

You will never find happiness until you stop looking for it.
Lao Tzu, the Tao Te Ching
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« Reply #13 on: January 06, 2007, 03:24:20 PM »
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We're ~not all "so obsessed," etc.

Yeah I know I meant a larger cultural we, that is what mainstream society defines as success at this point in history. I try not to use the word we because I dont speak for others ... should of used something different.

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You could always try another castle.

"You know how they say that dreamers build their castles in the air, and lunatics live in them? Well, I clean them."

- Rita Rudner




Ill have to try that.  :P Great quote.
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« Reply #14 on: January 06, 2007, 03:25:39 PM »
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You will never find happiness until you stop looking for it.
Lao Tzu, the Tao Te Ching


Is this some kind of riddle or something? Happiness comes in chemical form, so maybe happiness is just chemicals in our brain.
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