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« Reply #31 on: January 02, 2007, 04:36:11 PM »
Em, a study showed that children who's parents work and have a good social life actually perform better at school, are more independant and are generally more balanced than those who have stay at home parents (will try to find the study i speak of)

Personally I had to give my job up to work from home because I couldn't trust my boys any more - I didn't want my house burnt down or one of them killing the other.....they are more dependant on me than ever since I have been at home, I think it's made things worse
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« Reply #32 on: January 02, 2007, 04:52:34 PM »
There is a study showing families that have dogs instead of cats live much healthier lives.
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« Reply #33 on: January 02, 2007, 05:21:47 PM »
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There is a study showing families that have dogs instead of cats live much healthier lives.


Screw you, mary. I'm a cat person.  :P

Oh wait, I went to a program. hmmmmm...
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« Reply #34 on: January 02, 2007, 08:10:51 PM »
I've found in my own experience that parents will let other people do things to their kid they would never do themselves.
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« Reply #35 on: January 02, 2007, 10:59:14 PM »
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There is a study showing families that have dogs instead of cats live much healthier lives.

Screw you, mary. I'm a cat person.  :P

Oh wait, I went to a program. hmmmmm...


I don't think the problem is the program so much as being so gay as far as cats go, girlfriend.
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« Reply #36 on: January 02, 2007, 11:09:51 PM »
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I've found in my own experience that parents will let other people do things to their kid they would never do themselves.


You apparently have known some pretty fucked up parents. Most of the ones I know are more guilty of the "over-protective mama bear" syndrome, which might help explain how they contribute to their kids growing up to be less than responsible, self-sufficient young adults.

A long list of things comes to mind, but I'll try to be brief: obsession with safety (car seats, bicycle helmets, etc.), panic over minor schoolyard scuffles (OMG a kid at school gave my kid a bloody nose! Where were the adults in charge?), panic at the first sign of sexuality (next thing you know she'll be pregnant!) and panic at the first sign of drug or alcohol use (insanedeadorinjail!!!).

As their kids get older, these same over-protective coddling parents buy them everything they could possibly want, never make them do household chores or get a job or learn the value of a dollar.

These are the kind of upper middle class parents who might be prime targets for a program sales pitch if their kid starts to go south. But I guarantee they're going to need to be heavily conned and lied to about the program, because they're the same kind of parents who will get ready to kick some ass (literally or in court) if someone harms a hair on their kids' head.

Hell, when I was a kid we didn't have car seats or even care about seat belts -- we laid on the deck under the rear window on long trips -- and you would be ostracized as a retard or worse if you got caught wearing a helmet while riding your bike! You mowed lawns for money when you were 12 or 13 (or girls did babysitting), and when you were 14 or 15 you lied about your age to get a real job at a restaurant, gas station or whatever. If you snuck out at 2 a.m. or got caught with a bag of weed or pot plants growing in mom's vegetable garden, you either got your ass kicked or you got grounded for a few weeks. Somehow we survived. And we didn't need no stinking programs -- or over-protective mama bears.
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« Reply #37 on: January 02, 2007, 11:12:00 PM »
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I've found in my own experience that parents will let other people do things to their kid they would never do themselves.


Yup, including love them.
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« Reply #38 on: January 02, 2007, 11:12:48 PM »
I'd wager it's about 20% program parents who are like you explain 70's, the other half just want to get rid of their problem kid. Don't believe me? I wouldn't either (nor would I want to).
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« Reply #39 on: January 02, 2007, 11:13:32 PM »
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I've found in my own experience that parents will let other people do things to their kid they would never do themselves.

Yup, including love them.


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« Reply #40 on: January 02, 2007, 11:15:30 PM »
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There is a study showing families that have dogs instead of cats live much healthier lives.

Screw you, mary. I'm a cat person.  :P

Oh wait, I went to a program. hmmmmm...

I don't think the problem is the program so much as being so gay as far as cats go, girlfriend.


Well, I was inferring that since I came from a cat household instead of a dog one, the family was less healthy, and I thusly ended up in a program. As opposed to the program making me a cat person.

But yes, you're right, being a fag makes me a cat person also, and since one of the possible reasons I was sent to a program was because I was a fag, you can essentially, blame the fucking cat for that, too.

I don't even know what the fuck I'm trying to say anymore, except that somehow, this all goes back to gay cats.

This particular discussion has officially run its course.
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« Reply #41 on: January 02, 2007, 11:18:46 PM »
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I've found in my own experience that parents will let other people do things to their kid they would never do themselves.

You apparently have known some pretty fucked up parents. Most of the ones I know are more guilty of the "over-protective mama bear" syndrome, which might help explain how they contribute to their kids growing up to be less than responsible, self-sufficient young adults.

A long list of things comes to mind, but I'll try to be brief: obsession with safety (car seats, bicycle helmets, etc.), panic over minor schoolyard scuffles (OMG a kid at school gave my kid a bloody nose! Where were the adults in charge?), panic at the first sign of sexuality (next thing you know she'll be pregnant!) and panic at the first sign of drug or alcohol use (insanedeadorinjail!!!).

As their kids get older, these same over-protective coddling parents buy them everything they could possibly want, never make them do household chores or get a job or learn the value of a dollar.

These are the kind of upper middle class parents who might be prime targets for a program sales pitch if their kid starts to go south. But I guarantee they're going to need to be heavily conned and lied to about the program, because they're the same kind of parents who will get ready to kick some ass (literally or in court) if someone harms a hair on their kids' head.

Hell, when I was a kid we didn't have car seats or even care about seat belts -- we laid on the deck under the rear window on long trips -- and you would be ostracized as a retard or worse if you got caught wearing a helmet while riding your bike! You mowed lawns for money when you were 12 or 13 (or girls did babysitting), and when you were 14 or 15 you lied about your age to get a real job at a restaurant, gas station or whatever. If you snuck out at 2 a.m. or got caught with a bag of weed or pot plants growing in mom's vegetable garden, you either got your ass kicked or you got grounded for a few weeks. Somehow we survived. And we didn't need no stinking programs -- or over-protective mama bears.


So overprotective parents are to blame for programs like WWASPS?  :roll: I am not convinced in the slightest.
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« Reply #42 on: January 02, 2007, 11:21:15 PM »
I can understand the need for car seats and bike helmets because they actually do save lives. I cant understand the hysteria over minor drug, taking underage drinking or sex.
i think the irony is that older kids would be a lot safer if they were given accurate information abut sexuality and drug taking. Theyd wear the condom, leave the car at home more and in the event of actually beginning to develop a concerning drug habit seek help early.
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« Reply #43 on: January 02, 2007, 11:28:47 PM »
Oz Girl I thought you said you've been to the US. Surely you understand how brainwashed most people are. They drug war is not something that the govt imposes on the population without it's consent. Most people still support this stuff. Coastal parents sending their kid into mormon country to get their kid bent back into shape.. lol.
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« Reply #44 on: January 02, 2007, 11:50:48 PM »
Well in fairness it does not come up in casual conversation with aquaintances. If you went to another country would you open conversation with one of the friendly and congenial locals by saying something to the effect of
"So If you dont mind me saying so you guys seem pretty upotight about XYZ. Please let me tell you without asking what you personally think why I think these ideas are wrong! And let me just add I think that people who do this are crazy"

i didnt think so either. There is a big difference between an internet forum with random strangers who have come on in the spirit of open debate and being a guest in someones home or country.
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