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Offline Anne Bonney

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« Reply #375 on: January 11, 2007, 01:18:52 PM »
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You are letting you disdain for some people and schools screw up you logic.  The good still far outweighs the bad at these schools.

Sources for this please?

 
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If someone were to weigh the TBS's side by side to the public sector schools the safety scale would tip heavily towards the Private schools.  Every school out there is going to experience a suicide attempt, drug overdose, sexual abuse by a superior, death etc..  It is just a matter of time, the trick is to determine which are safer, what policies they have in place and the best match for ones child.

These schools market themselves as the safer alternative.  Smaller classes, more individualized attention, therapists, counselors etc. etc.  They market themselves as 'therapeutic' but then run from that label if anyone tries to bring them into compliance with existing regulations.  They use coercive tactics, emotional blackmail and abuse and if that doesn't work, physical force.  Then they justify this all by saying that the kids are out of control and deserve this.  It's their 'wake-up call' or 'forcing them to confront their own demons' or whatever other euphemism you want to use.  It all boils down to the same peer-culture/pressure philosophy.  Break 'em down, build 'em up.  And no, I don't see any real difference between Straight and the vast majority of these places that I've read about and researched.  I've said it before, I'll say it again.....same shit, slightly different wrapper.


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Take a look at our public sector, are our kids safe in the public school system?  No.  Are they safer in a TBS setting, it is ovwewhelmingly Yes !!

Please back this statement up with something other than your opinion.

 
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But unfortunately we hear from more of the unhappy experiences than the successful ones.

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Just ask anyone in a customer service department of any store how many people call in to say how happy they are with their new purchase.  You would hear 99% who call are unhappy.  Does this mean 99% of the people who purchase products are unhappy with their purchase?  

Not even a comparison.

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Do you see my point?
We cant take a full spectrum across the board position based on a few scattered data points.
Sorry DJ its just not there.


I see the point you're trying to make.  It just isn't cutting it though.
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« Reply #376 on: January 11, 2007, 01:21:16 PM »
Now that we've cleared up your literacy deficiencies, I'd like to see your sources for the above claims that both Anne and I asked of you.
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« Reply #377 on: January 11, 2007, 01:21:43 PM »
Do you realize that the shows are put on Television for the sole purpose of sell products or making a profit?  Other than entertainment there is no reason to watch them.  One shouldn?t make life decisions based on them, it foolish.
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« Reply #378 on: January 11, 2007, 01:23:06 PM »
DJ, don't you have better things to do than argue with this assclown? Hop over to the HLA board and tell us what the hell's going on with that shitpit.
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« Reply #379 on: January 11, 2007, 01:28:12 PM »
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Now that we've cleared up your literacy deficiencies, I'd like to see your sources for the above claims that both Anne and I asked of you.


No , I am not going to go off doing busy work for you or to be held to a different standard then everyone else.  I welcome discussion and open dialog.  Some of what I say is opinion and I will try to remember to mention that as I speak the rest is from my personal experiences or what I have read here on Fornits.  If there is new data that I would like to produce and I feel it is worthwhile I will do so.
But no, I am not going to run around for everyone.  

See ya, Have to run
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« Reply #380 on: January 11, 2007, 01:30:10 PM »
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No , I am not going to go off doing busy work for you or to be held to a different standard then everyone else.  I welcome discussion and open dialog.  Some of what I say is opinion and I will try to remember to mention that as I speak the rest is from my personal experiences or what I have read here on Fornits.  If there is new data that I would like to produce and I feel it is worthwhile I will do so.
But no, I am not going to run around for everyone.  

See ya, Have to run


Oh come on!!!  You make bold, blanket statements and when we ask you to provide some modicum of proof for these outrageous claims you "just say no"???
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« Reply #381 on: January 11, 2007, 01:31:57 PM »
Wow. He gets his ass beat verbally in the most graphic audacious manner humanly possible without getting Ben Stein, Jeremy Clarkson and the YOU ARE THE WEAKEST LINK bitch involved, and he "has to run"

 :rofl: Gonna keep those sources secret there buddy?
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DannyB on the internet:I CALLED A LAWYER TODAY TO SEE IF I COULD SUE YOUR ASSES FOR DOING THIS BUT THAT WAS NOT POSSIBLE.

CCMGirl on program restraints: "DON\'T TAZ ME BRO!!!!!"

TheWho on program survivors: "From where I sit I see all the anit-program[sic] people doing all the complaining and crying."

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« Reply #382 on: January 11, 2007, 01:33:34 PM »
HEY, WHERE IS PROGRAMMIE-TRANS BOT?  :o

I THINK HIS MOST RECENT POST IS A FUCKING DOOZIE.
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DannyB on the internet:I CALLED A LAWYER TODAY TO SEE IF I COULD SUE YOUR ASSES FOR DOING THIS BUT THAT WAS NOT POSSIBLE.

CCMGirl on program restraints: "DON\'T TAZ ME BRO!!!!!"

TheWho on program survivors: "From where I sit I see all the anit-program[sic] people doing all the complaining and crying."

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« Reply #383 on: January 11, 2007, 01:34:44 PM »
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Wow. He gets his ass beat verbally in the most graphic audacious manner humanly possible without getting Ben Stein, Jeremy Clarkson and the YOU ARE THE WEAKEST LINK bitch involved, and he "has to run"

 :rofl: Gonna keep those sources secret there buddy?


All right a few more minutes!
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« Reply #384 on: January 11, 2007, 01:36:53 PM »
Niles, you know that if you speak your wishes aloud they don't come true!

He's just protecting the fantasy world in which he lives.

That guy is about as useless as tits on a boar - for either side of the argument, save for the illustration of how double-standards are employed by program parents, but that's about it...
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« Reply #385 on: January 11, 2007, 01:38:42 PM »
Cough it up already!

If I make my N-BOT 9000+ to work out your post before you start to come clean, then you have to go back through all the seminars starting with Discovery! Gilcrease will PERSONALLY facilitate it, with Tony Robbins doing tag-team so they stay fresh!

DJ - Who's nonsense is a great case study of arguementative fallacies and just general bullshit, don't you think? It only helps our case, and tits on a boar feed piglets! Thats not useless, think of the piglets!!!
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TheWho on program survivors: "From where I sit I see all the anit-program[sic] people doing all the complaining and crying."

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« Reply #386 on: January 11, 2007, 01:40:22 PM »
IT'S JUST TOO EASY, FLESHLING.

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No, I am not going to go off backing up what I have to say or be held to the same standard as everyone else. I refuse discussion and open dialog. All of what I say is bullshit and I will try to remember that as I speak. The rest is from my ass; I'm barely literate and have no idea what the rest of Fornits even reads like. If there is new data that I would like to produce (also known as making it up) and I feel anyone will believe it I will do so.
But no, I am not going to start making sense.

See ya, Have to go blow Lon Woodbury
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« Reply #387 on: January 11, 2007, 01:40:32 PM »
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and tits on a boar feed piglets!


 :question:  :question: Really?

 ::bwahaha::
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« Reply #388 on: January 11, 2007, 01:41:08 PM »
I think any one of us could bog down the thread by asking for everyone else to back up there position or opinion with facts.

Everytime anyone uses the words everyone, all, most people here at fornits, the majority would need to be held accountable and would need to provide names.  This is silly.

What I present is my opinion and facts as I have heard them.  I dont save every article I read or tape the news each night.  Does that make me a bad person, dont know.
But When I do come across something tangible that I can pass along I will, just like most of the people here at fornits. share it with everyone.
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« Reply #389 on: January 11, 2007, 01:44:52 PM »
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I think any one of us could bog down the thread by asking for everyone else to back up there position or opinion with facts.

Everytime anyone uses the words everyone, all, most people here at fornits, the majority would need to be held accountable and would need to provide names.  This is silly.

What I present is my opinion and facts as I have heard them.  I dont save every article I read or tape the news each night.  Does that make me a bad person, dont know.
But When I do come across something tangible that I can pass along I will, just like most of the people here at fornits. share it with everyone.

Yes, we all post our opinions but your statements were presented as fact.  

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The good still far outweighs the bad at these schools.

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If someone were to weigh the TBS's side by side to the public sector schools the safety scale would tip heavily towards the Private schools

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Take a look at our public sector, are our kids safe in the public school system? No. Are they safer in a TBS setting, it is ovwewhelmingly Yes !!


If you're going to make statements like this, expect to be asked to back them up.
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