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Re: The Who
« Reply #3090 on: September 12, 2008, 02:36:05 PM »
Like a carrot on a stick.  Good form friend. BTW man or woman Who? How old are you?


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« Reply #3091 on: September 12, 2008, 02:44:39 PM »
Obviously we would all be better off if we deregulated the industry completely. Then maybe kids wouldn't just get average grades in school and have a perfect relationship with their parents.

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Re: The Who
« Reply #3092 on: September 12, 2008, 02:45:43 PM »
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You shouldn't tell other people how they should or shouldn't view something. It's rude and pointless.

Lets place that on the shingle as everyone enters, I will conform if others do.

I don't do it and I'm asking YOU not to.  Other people might do it and I don't like it either.  I'm asking YOU not to do it.  K?

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The problem is that these kids have NO DUE PROCESS. If they are incarcerated in one of these places, they have no recourse. If they complain about how they're being treated, it gets worse and they understand very quickly that any dissent or questioning of the program or it's policies will be severely dealt with. Hell, even if parents get a little inquisitive and start poking their noses around too much THEY are dealt with pretty severely...i.e. those precious, few moments of their weekly monitored phone calls with their kids could be cut off. God forbid you have divorced parents and one puts a kid in a program against the others wishes. The non-custodial parent is denied virtually ALL access to the child. The kids have no access to phone or outside sources to even report anything in the first place. And, very often, the 'dx' techniques the programs use leave A LOT to be desired. Rubber stamping any kid just to get them in the door and get those $$$$. Unqualified staff. Do I really need to go on more?

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I am just as frustrated as you are.  Some solutions are regulation, giving children access to a hot line, providing the kids with unmonitored phone calls to their parents.
Having a third party sign off on all placements prior to a program/school accepting them.

If you're just as frustrated, why would you be arguing (as you have many, many times here) FOR censoring and monitoring calls between parent and child?  Why are you constantly here advocating FOR programs even when we've proven over and over that a particular one DOES employ unqualified staff?  You usually disregard it as "irrelevant" to the circumstances.

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Let's just start off with some basic human rights, howz that? Like a proper diagnosis from qualified staff, instead of 'diagnosing' a kid with some arbitrary 'behavioral disorder'. How about access to a phone to be able to speak to parents or LEO or the Dept. of Children and Families....UNCENSORED AND UNMONITORED? How about the right to take a dump without some 'higher phaser' watching you?

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Way ahead of you, keep going, we agree so far.


If you're just as frustrated, why would you be arguing (as you have many, many times here) FOR censoring and monitoring calls between parent and child?  Why are you constantly here advocating FOR programs even when we've proven over and over that a particular one DOES employ unqualified staff?  You usually disregard it as "irrelevant" to the circumstances.
 

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You are picking the extreme cases also.  Parents just don’t send their kids away based on a list they read about on the web.  The parents are reading it because they already have a problem with their child who is at-risk.  Parents don’t send their kids away for help at $6,000 a month for talking back to them or getting a tattoo (again, I am sure there are exceptions).  Having a third party sign off will help prevent these types of placements from happening.

No, I'm pointing out that there is a problem with the diagnostic methods used in most programs.  And yes, many many parents send their kids off for talking back  or getting a tattoo.  I've been IN programs with kids who have NO BUSINESS being in there, but the parents freaked out at finding a joint and shipped them off.  Happens every day.

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Just talk to a few of the kids, they were not heading for Harvard on a full scholarship prior to being placed, they know they were screwing up and many had plenty of warning and opportunities to get back on track.

Well, not all of us base our value as a person on whether or not we graduated from an ivy league school.  But that does seem to be very important to a lot of program parents.  The kids aren't growing up how the parents would like them to and instead of respecting that the child is an individual, with thoughts and values of their own.....they ship them off for "re-education".

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No it is not imperative to me because I am not an investor.  The investors drive the industries profit stategy.  If profits do not increase every year then the major investors will pull their money.  Hospitals are the same way, like any industry.  If the fund that your 401k is in doesn’t do well they will move the money out and into something more profitable.  If too much money is pulled out then the industry could/would collapse.

I could only hope.


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So you see it is important that the industry keep growing.

No, I don't see.  Not at all.

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You are a truly disgusting human being.

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You are saying that to yourself, you just don’t realize it.  But so it goes, I guess.  Someday you may understand that you are fighting the wrong people.


Bwahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!  Spoken like the true washed soul that you are.
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Re: The Who
« Reply #3093 on: September 12, 2008, 02:47:45 PM »
Who why are you still posting on Fornits when you gave your word you would stop?
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Re: The Who
« Reply #3094 on: September 12, 2008, 02:49:19 PM »
We're gonna be good friens i think who. Your nickname should be the pied piper.

We should waterboard our children!


B-a-a-a-a-a-a! hee hee. Does your stomach hrt from laughing as much as mine who?
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Re: The Who
« Reply #3095 on: September 12, 2008, 02:54:10 PM »
Yknow theres plenty of room for more henchman. Ya'll should try it. Its kinda fun.

Its completely obvious we need these programs because kids are inherently bad until they turn 18. Programs beat the bad out of kids before it becomes a lifelong disease.

Here sheep! high five Who!
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Re: The Who
« Reply #3096 on: September 12, 2008, 03:00:01 PM »
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Hey Who,

I'm a little new here and I have no idea what the big fuss is over this thread. It is one of the longest threads here. (I couldn't imagine going over the entire content of it.) I mean no offense here, in fact I am just curious. I have noticed a trend and, if I am correct, you have a particular skill in running a conversation in circles. Is this all a game? I don't know if you don't want to expose this about yourself but maybe you just want to be found out. If it is true I applaude you! It is truly brilliant. An expose on the nature of man. Thank you.

What idiots huh who.

Sleep depravation has astounding results in changing the behavior of children for the better.

Here sheep! high five Who
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Re: The Who
« Reply #3097 on: September 12, 2008, 03:04:24 PM »
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If you're just as frustrated, why would you be arguing (as you have many, many times here) FOR censoring and monitoring calls between parent and child? Why are you constantly here advocating FOR programs even when we've proven over and over that a particular one DOES employ unqualified staff? You usually disregard it as "irrelevant" to the circumstances.
I have never advocated censoring or monitoring of calls.  I do not think all programs are good.  If a staff member abused a child I don’t conclude that all staff members are abusers and I don’t necessarily feel the program is abusive because of the actions of an employee.

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No, I'm pointing out that there is a problem with the diagnostic methods used in most programs. And yes, many many parents send their kids off for talking back or getting a tattoo. I've been IN programs with kids who have NO BUSINESS being in there, but the parents freaked out at finding a joint and shipped them off. Happens every day.
This is why I believe getting a third party to sign off on each decision , this will help to eliminate these types of placements.

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Well, not all of us base our value as a person on whether or not we graduated from an ivy league school. But that does seem to be very important to a lot of program parents. The kids aren't growing up how the parents would like them to and instead of respecting that the child is an individual, with thoughts and values of their own.....they ship them off for "re-education".

The kids are typically in an at-risk situation, not going to school, heading down a destructive path.



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Re: The Who
« Reply #3098 on: September 12, 2008, 03:05:04 PM »
Who why are you still posting on Fornits when you gave your word you would stop?

Answer the question please.
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« Reply #3099 on: September 12, 2008, 03:15:54 PM »
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Who why are you still posting on Fornits when you gave your word you would stop?

Answer the question please.

This is not something I am proud of nor like to discuss.

I agreed to stop posting based on certain events/circumstances which I am not able to speak openly here.  I realized, after the fact,that false information was provided as a catalyst to precipitate my leaving.
I returned at great risk to my personal credability as a regular poster here on fornits, but felt it was the right thing to do in light of the heavily one-sided discussions.



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Re: The Who
« Reply #3100 on: September 12, 2008, 03:22:07 PM »
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Hey Who,

I'm a little new here and I have no idea what the big fuss is over this thread. It is one of the longest threads here. (I couldn't imagine going over the entire content of it.) I mean no offense here, in fact I am just curious. I have noticed a trend and, if I am correct, you have a particular skill in running a conversation in circles. Is this all a game? I don't know if you don't want to expose this about yourself but maybe you just want to be found out. If it is true I applaude you! It is truly brilliant. An expose on the nature of man. Thank you.

What idiots huh who.

Sleep depravation has astounding results in changing the behavior of children for the better.

Here sheep! high five Who

Wow. You are good at this game who. I'm gonna start taking notes. Hey buddy lets team up.

A teenager who smokes even one cigarrette is guaranteed to die of hard drug use without these programs!

High five who!
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Re: The Who
« Reply #3101 on: September 12, 2008, 03:26:23 PM »
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Who why are you still posting on Fornits when you gave your word you would stop?

Answer the question please.

This is not something I am proud of nor like to discuss.

I agreed to stop posting based on certain events/circumstances which I am not able to speak openly here.  I realized, after the fact,that false information was provided as a catalyst to precipitate my leaving.
I returned at great risk to my personal credability as a regular poster here on fornits, but felt it was the right thing to do in light of the heavily one-sided discussions.



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We felt your absence was one of the brightest and most productive periods since you appeared on Fornits.  We would like to know more about these events/circumstances which led to you giving your word to leave this forum.  Who can enlighten us since you are too ashamed to discuss it?

Your credibility is non existent and you lied by going back on your word.  Nothing you say can be trusted.  You admit to being deceitful.
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« Reply #3102 on: September 12, 2008, 03:31:34 PM »
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Yknow theres plenty of room for more henchman. Ya'll should try it. Its kinda fun.

Its completely obvious we need these programs because kids are inherently bad until they turn 18. Programs beat the bad out of kids before it becomes a lifelong disease.

Here sheep! high five Who!

Yknow this is a pretty fun game you created here who. You should patent it friend.

It is worth it to lose your retirement fund to send your child to a program. It is the only way you will ever have a chance to have a relationship with your kid. If they don't complete a program they will hate you and then die horribly!

My sides hurt who. High five buddy. Here sheep! ba-a-a-!
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Re: The Who
« Reply #3103 on: September 12, 2008, 04:58:08 PM »
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I have never advocated censoring or monitoring of calls.  I do not think all programs are good.  If a staff member abused a child I don’t conclude that all staff members are abusers and I don’t necessarily feel the program is abusive because of the actions of an employee.

You may not have specifically "advocated" for it, but you most certainly have defended the tactic numerous times.  And no, I'm not going to dig through the threads to find them.  You've done it so much that anyone who has been around for even a short while has seen it.

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Well, not all of us base our value as a person on whether or not we graduated from an ivy league school. But that does seem to be very important to a lot of program parents. The kids aren't growing up how the parents would like them to and instead of respecting that the child is an individual, with thoughts and values of their own.....they ship them off for "re-education".

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The kids are typically in an at-risk situation, not going to school, heading down a destructive path.

Again......not all of us base our value as a person on whether or not we graduated from an ivy league school. But that does seem to be very important to a lot of program parents. The kids aren't growing up how the parents would like them to and instead of respecting that the child is an individual, with thoughts and values of their own.....they ship them off for "re-education".
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Re: The Who
« Reply #3104 on: September 12, 2008, 05:38:08 PM »
Who this is amazing! You are such an accomplished game player you could say anything and they'll keep coming back. How is it that no one realizes this is just a game to get attention?!

It is imperative for a child to be cut off  from any contact with family members so they can grow. Coddled children wind up as prostitutes in almost every situation!

Come and get it sheep! Ba-a-a-a!

High five Who!
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