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« Reply #135 on: June 22, 2006, 02:04:00 PM »
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On 2006-06-22 10:50:00, Dysfunction Junction wrote:


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Facts are facts, no matter how you spin it they still come back to haunt you.







Sadly, you've had an object lesson in this concept for the past two days.  I can see it has made you sore.  Just "stop the insanity," Who.  





The lies, the spin, the deflection - it's all come back to bite you and you look horrible because of it.  People can now use your inability to tell the truth about anything to discount everything you've ever said because there will always be reasonable suspicion that you are lying.





It's a shame you've invested so much time and energy in this site only to be completely disgraced and discredited by your own lies.  I almost feel sorry for you because you are just so pathetic, but not quite.

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Wow, you really hate being proved wrong.  I have seen you flip out over on the HLA thread, but never like this.

Now, Take a deep breath.  Let it out......... and move on ........"


what world do you live in?  you got absolutely shredded for two days and caught in so many lies it's not funny.  are you mentally ill or did you take a severe blow to the head?  you've completely lost it.
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« Reply #136 on: June 22, 2006, 02:05:00 PM »
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maybe he should get sent to a program where he can learn a little about being honest with himself and others?

Yeah..maybe Dr. Fucktard should consider putting him in SIBS instead of hiring him...  :lol:
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« Reply #137 on: June 22, 2006, 02:10:00 PM »
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this says everything I want you to know about the who.  he just can't help himself from the lying.  maybe he should get sent to a program where he can learn a little about being honest with himself and others?"


It may say everything you'd like to know but not me.

Who, what field do you work in?  What is your job title?  No need to give the name of the facility.

I really don't understand why you have such a problem answering this.  You demand answers from others, DJs qualifications etc. but you clam up when pressed about YOUR qualifications or background.  Why?
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« Reply #138 on: June 22, 2006, 02:13:00 PM »
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On 2006-06-22 09:12:00, Dysfunction Junction wrote:

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http://www.aacap.org/publications/policy/ps16.htm#TOP



Policy statement from The American Academy of Child and Adolescent Psychiatry indicating JCAHO facilities ONLY should be used.  This rules out "programs."  You can read more about their policy statement at the link.



http://www.adolpsych.org/



Their articles on "Teen Troubles" warn against restrictive treatment.



http://rtckids.fmhi.usf.edu/



This one's the kicker.  The Who claims that the The Research and Training Center for Children's Mental Health REFUSED TO SIGN the letter to Congress, but, get this, they are the ones who wrote the letter and are the organization that FORMED ASTART at the university of South Florida![/b] :nworthy:

Who, you've outdone yourself here!!!  What a LIAR you are, sir.  For SHAME!!



Do I need to go through the rest of your phony little list?  I mean, if you are going to say you CALLED The Research and Training Center for Children's Mental Health and they said the REFUSED TO SIGN when they actually FORMED ASTART, you couldn't possibly be a bigger LIAR!! :nworthy:  :rofl:
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« Reply #139 on: June 22, 2006, 02:13:00 PM »
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??. are you mentally ill or did you take a severe blow to the head? you've completely lost it.


When you start calling other people mentally ill, you know you have been caught with your shorts down.
Is this how ?Mental Health Professionals? act when they get proved wrong?  Start calling people names?
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« Reply #140 on: June 22, 2006, 02:16:00 PM »
Shut your bloody hole, WHORE!!  :lol:
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« Reply #141 on: June 22, 2006, 02:18:00 PM »
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On 2006-06-22 11:13:00, TheWho wrote:

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DJ Wrote:

??. are you mentally ill or did you take a severe blow to the head? you've completely lost it.



When you start calling other people mentally ill, you know you have been caught with your shorts down.

Is this how ?Mental Health Professionals? act when they get proved wrong?  Start calling people names?

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Yet another lie and falsification of the record, Who.  Shame on you.

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"what world do you live in? you got absolutely shredded for two days and caught in so many lies it's not funny. are you mentally ill or did you take a severe blow to the head? you've completely lost it."


Just busying yourself falsifying some records I guess.  Everybody has to have something to do! :lol:

Try using the "Quote" button for accuracy next time instead of just making it up as you go - although I know this is more of a lifestyle and a habit for you, so you'll have to concentrate and try harder to be truthful and accurate.  You've fallen short once again, Who.  Pinched in another Whopper!

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« Reply #142 on: June 22, 2006, 02:20:00 PM »
Here are the facts again.  Is this what they call a flame war?

The organizations A-Start stated signed the letter to congress:

American Psychological Association
American Association of Community Psychiatrists
American Orthopsychiatric Association
Child Welfare League of America
Federation of Families for Children?s Mental Health
National Youth Advocate Program, Inc.


The following refused to sign:

American Medical association (AMA)
http://www.ama-assn.org/


American Academy of Child and Adolescent Psychiatry

American Society for Adolescent Psychiatry

Research & Training Center on Children's Mental Health

The Research and Training Center for Children's Mental Health

Child and Adolescent Services Research Center

Center for Study and Prevention of Violence.

There are more, these are the ones I was able to locate in the time I had last night.

They didn?t sign DJ, they may believe in the concept but they didn?t sign. They may have it on their web site, but they didn?t sign.   No matter how you spin it they are not on the list of signatures, period, why?  Some didn?t believe in the wording, others were not invited to participate in its conception.
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« Reply #143 on: June 22, 2006, 02:25:00 PM »
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Policy statement from The American Academy of Child and Adolescent Psychiatry indicating JCAHO facilities ONLY should be used.  This rules out "programs."  You can read more about their policy statement at the link.



http://www.adolpsych.org/


This policy was written almost 20 years ago. It seems to me that a lot of what was policy of many organizations 20 years ago frequently comes under fire in these forums to this date. Does this now mean it's open season on this one? :grin:
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« Reply #144 on: June 22, 2006, 02:27:00 PM »
No, the facts are that you didn't call or talk to anyone and at least some of the people you say "refused" to sign, are the founders of ASTART and are clearly listed on the signator list.

AAA, MLB, NFL, NBA, ABA, PETA, NAACP, DHS, ATA, SAG, UAW also all "refused" to sign. :lol:

You're a complete joke, Who.  You lied, you got pinched, you got proven to be an unmitigated liar and yet you prattle on...
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« Reply #145 on: June 22, 2006, 02:28:00 PM »
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On 2006-06-22 10:58:00, Anonymous
this says everything I want you to know about the who.  he just can't help himself from the lying.  maybe he should get sent to a program where he can learn a little about being honest with himself and others?"




It may say everything you'd like to know but not me.



Who, what field do you work in?  What is your job title?  No need to give the name of the facility.



I really don't understand why you have such a problem answering this.  You demand answers from others, DJs qualifications etc. but you clam up when pressed about YOUR qualifications or background.  Why?"


I am presently searching for something.  Its a long story.  The answer wouldn?t quench anyone?s curiosity anyway.
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« Reply #146 on: June 22, 2006, 02:29:00 PM »
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Policy statement from The American Academy of Child and Adolescent Psychiatry indicating JCAHO facilities ONLY should be used.  This rules out "programs."  You can read more about their policy statement at the link.





http://www.adolpsych.org/




This policy was written almost 20 years ago. It seems to me that a lot of what was policy of many organizations 20 years ago frequently comes under fire in these forums to this date. Does this now mean it's open season on this one? :grin: "


It's their current position, regardless of when it was originally drafted.  If their position changed they'd update their statement.
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« Reply #147 on: June 22, 2006, 02:31:00 PM »
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On 2006-06-22 11:27:00, Dysfunction Junction wrote:

"No, the facts are that you didn't call or talk to anyone and at least some of the people you say "refused" to sign, are the founders of ASTART and are clearly listed on the signator list.



AAA, MLB, NFL, NBA, ABA, PETA, NAACP, DHS, ATA, SAG, UAW also all "refused" to sign. :lol:



You're a complete joke, Who.  You lied, you got pinched, you got proven to be an unmitigated liar and yet you prattle on...
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Ha, Ha, nice try, give it up.  No matter how you try you cant place them on the list of signatures, the list is clear.  You gave it to me !!
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« Reply #148 on: June 22, 2006, 02:33:00 PM »
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I am presently searching for something.

In what field and in what capacity?


 
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Its a long story.

I've got time.


 
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The answer wouldn?t quench anyone?s curiosity anyway."



Aww, now you don't know that.  I might be completely satisfied with your answer.  Why don't you take a shot at it?
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« Reply #149 on: June 22, 2006, 02:38:00 PM »
Robert Friedman, Ph.D.

Professor/Chair

Department of Child & Family

Studies

Louis de la Parte Florida Mental

Health Institute

University of South Florida

Tampa, FL

Director, The Research and Training Center for Children's Mental Health

Ooops!  Another lie.  The director (in case you don't know what that means, it means the guy who sets the policy) of the organization you claimed to have called and they told you they "refused to sign" actually did sign and you obviously lied about speaking to them.  So, so sloppy.  So many lies to keep track of.

I gave you the list, you didn't read it, and then made up some statements and attributed them to people who are on the list. :lol:
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