Direct Action Campaign

[Antigen]

Speaking of Maia and connecting the dots, here's her latest offering through Huffinton Post:

Drug Testing and Deception
Slate has a story this week about the failure of school drug testing. It reports that the largest studies of the issue do not support randomly testing students or testing those in extracurricular activities as a way of reducing drug use. The article highlights the involvement of former drug czar Robert DuPont -- a long-time drug warrior -- in flawed research frequently cited by the current drug czar to refute the other data.

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Full text/comments: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/maia-szal ... 17712.html

This would be the best of all possible worlds, if there were no religion in it.
--John Adams, U.S. President

[001010]

On 2006-03-13 14:55:00, Anonymous wrote:

"Smaller stickers would be good for people to put on their hat or shirt.



Also, if someone would like to post how to make a template for easily spray painting this sort of message on walls, easy graffiti, fun."

Except for the fact that spray painting is vandalism, and not exactly a credible way to get people to respect or even listen to our pleas to be heard.

[001010]

On 2006-03-24 10:25:00, researcher1 wrote:

Thanks.

Welcome, and thank you for your comments! :wave:

[Anonymous]

On 2006-03-24 13:44:00, 001010 wrote:

"

On 2006-03-13 14:55:00, Anonymous wrote:


"Smaller stickers would be good for people to put on their hat or shirt.





Also, if someone would like to post how to make a template for easily spray painting this sort of message on walls, easy graffiti, fun."

Except for the fact that spray painting is vandalism, and not exactly a credible way to get people to respect or even listen to our pleas to be heard.  
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I respectfully disagree, Morli. St. Pete was tagged mercilessly with anti-Straight graffiti in the final days before Straight's closing. Advertising works for a reason: the simple repetition of a word or word combination can have a "hundredth monkey" effect on both the neural pathways in the human mind and in the culture itself.

If someone could make us a "Penny Walker's head" tag design and post it, thanks.

[Anonymous]

On 2006-03-24 10:25:00, researcher1 wrote:

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On 2006-03-24 07:56:00, Eudora wrote:


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On 2006-03-22 15:59:00, researcher1 wrote:



Is the government not spending it's tax dollars wisely enough to where more attention is focused on these programs to ensure the safety of our youth? Oh, but I guess then it would require another government association which hires people not really qualified for the job and could care less about what they are investigating and controlling except how much overtime they work and how many 0's are at the end of their pay check. Uhh. This just proves why I never found interest in politics or following it.

"Just because you don't take an interest in politics doesn't mean politics won't take an interest in you."--Pericles (430 BC)





Yes, the government has always been intensely interested in these programs. At the very beginning of the Seed, Robert DuPont as head of NIDA granted Art Barker over a million dollars for expansion. Nixon had tasked him to go out and find the silver bullet for the expected wave of heroin addicted Vietnam vets. That epidemic never materialized, so they started hawking Anslinger's reefer madness propaganda all over the place.





Up until `98, the only political issue I really kept up on was drug policy. In `98, Brother Jeb! took office as the Governor of Florida and, right out of the chute, promised $100 million in publicly funded juvenile drug rehab. So then I started looking into the backrounds of the most lunatic of drug warriors and found most of them directly tied to Mel and Betty's little cult. Un-fucking-believable! And, in fact, even drug policy reformers have tended to litterally not believe it. Sounds too much like a conspiracy theory, right?





Well it is a conspiracy. I didn't invent it, though, I'm only reporting what I've learned.





These people are rank fanatics. They're easily as delusional as any Taliban cleric or abortion clinic bomber. Here's a stunning example at the depth of delusion on both sides of this issue. After the WTC attack of 9/11, drug policy reformers reached near consensus on putting aside their very important domestic issues in order to show real solidarity and patriotism. They assumed that, surely, the opposition would react the same way. After all, who could concience a continued domestic war while our nation is under attack by real outside enemies?





Zealots, that's who! And so I switched my tag line to "Drug Free America Foundation = an American Taliban" for awhile.





Neeless to say, I thought they were making a big mistake. They just didn't really understand how deeply fanatic these people are. So I wrote my own damned letter to the Miami Herald:


http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v01/n171 ... tml?305637 Never thought they'd publish it, but they did.





Next thing ya' know, "In a record single-event advertising buy for the federal government, the White House drug czar's office is paying $1.7 million each for 30-second spots that will air Sunday on Fox during the Super Bowl, said a network source."


http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v02/n169/a05.html?305642





I don't know if you remember those ads or not. But they essentially had 13yo kids making statements like "I helped kill a peasant family in Bolivia!" and "I helped buy guns for terrorists in Bosnia!"





Now, if you want to see what it takes to almost make a dent in the public unconcious, just look at my martin lee anderson. The man who started that boot camp holds a seat on the board of Drug Free America Foundation. The man who took over as sherrif is a close affiliate through Florida Department of Law Enforcement and is a dyed in the wool drug warrior, appointed to that office by Brother Jeb! Büsh in the wake of a sex scandal involving the former sheriff.





Now, I don't doubt that sometimes people in positions of power over vulnerable female inmates sometimes take advantage of the situation. But it just looks damned fishy when you consider who promoted that story into a career buster and who benefited from it. Honest to God, just because the Büsh people and their creepy cult friends are involved, I tend to not believe the charges.

May your days be joyously challenging and your words artfully true.
--Ginger Warbis

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Like the quote regarding politics. And thanks for the compliment Eudora. You are the one that started this website/forum, correct? Well, kudo's to you my dear. And, I do remember those ad campaigns. The message I got from those campaigns were just that-if you buy drugs you are donating to terrorists, etc. How does this tie in with the subject at hand? And please forgive me for sounding "Stupid" I need to do quite alot more research. And, I'm not so sure I agree with you that people have heard of this in one way or another. Maybe they have and like you said, just couldnt put 2 & 2 together. But why should people have to connect the dots? We should have pictures of abused children from these places on billboards that read "This is what happend when my parents sent me away?" Just throw it in people's faces. Ya know?

I have been forwarding websites on to all the people in my address book without even a subject line. Maybe I can create a snowball effect. Unfortunately, no one has emailed me back asking, "What is all this you keep sending me?" Even my closest friend that follows politics etc. that I have mentioned before. I just dont get it.



You talked about looking into the backgrounds of "the most lunatic of drug warriors" and found most of the directly tied to Mel and Betty's cult. So, that means that these drug lords are funding Mel and Betty Sembler. So, what do the terrorists have to do with it? Zealots? When I said I didnt follow politics, I meant it. As i said earlier, Please forgive me for sounding stupid. You'll have to allow me a little more time to respond to you. I have to research most of what you talk about before I can respond. lol. I will continue to discuss this issue as long as I have people to discuss it with. I'm sure I will need the opinions and the "education".



Thanks.



By the way, I did notice that Maia mentions this website in her book. :nworthy:



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[Anonymous]

On 2006-03-24 10:25:00, researcher1 wrote:

"

On 2006-03-24 07:56:00, Eudora wrote:


"

On 2006-03-22 15:59:00, researcher1 wrote:



Is the government not spending it's tax dollars wisely enough to where more attention is focused on these programs to ensure the safety of our youth? Oh, but I guess then it would require another government association which hires people not really qualified for the job and could care less about what they are investigating and controlling except how much overtime they work and how many 0's are at the end of their pay check. Uhh. This just proves why I never found interest in politics or following it.

"Just because you don't take an interest in politics doesn't mean politics won't take an interest in you."--Pericles (430 BC)





Yes, the government has always been intensely interested in these programs. At the very beginning of the Seed, Robert DuPont as head of NIDA granted Art Barker over a million dollars for expansion. Nixon had tasked him to go out and find the silver bullet for the expected wave of heroin addicted Vietnam vets. That epidemic never materialized, so they started hawking Anslinger's reefer madness propaganda all over the place.





Up until `98, the only political issue I really kept up on was drug policy. In `98, Brother Jeb! took office as the Governor of Florida and, right out of the chute, promised $100 million in publicly funded juvenile drug rehab. So then I started looking into the backrounds of the most lunatic of drug warriors and found most of them directly tied to Mel and Betty's little cult. Un-fucking-believable! And, in fact, even drug policy reformers have tended to litterally not believe it. Sounds too much like a conspiracy theory, right?





Well it is a conspiracy. I didn't invent it, though, I'm only reporting what I've learned.





These people are rank fanatics. They're easily as delusional as any Taliban cleric or abortion clinic bomber. Here's a stunning example at the depth of delusion on both sides of this issue. After the WTC attack of 9/11, drug policy reformers reached near consensus on putting aside their very important domestic issues in order to show real solidarity and patriotism. They assumed that, surely, the opposition would react the same way. After all, who could concience a continued domestic war while our nation is under attack by real outside enemies?





Zealots, that's who! And so I switched my tag line to "Drug Free America Foundation = an American Taliban" for awhile.





Neeless to say, I thought they were making a big mistake. They just didn't really understand how deeply fanatic these people are. So I wrote my own damned letter to the Miami Herald:


http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v01/n171 ... tml?305637 Never thought they'd publish it, but they did.





Next thing ya' know, "In a record single-event advertising buy for the federal government, the White House drug czar's office is paying $1.7 million each for 30-second spots that will air Sunday on Fox during the Super Bowl, said a network source."


http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v02/n169/a05.html?305642





I don't know if you remember those ads or not. But they essentially had 13yo kids making statements like "I helped kill a peasant family in Bolivia!" and "I helped buy guns for terrorists in Bosnia!"





Now, if you want to see what it takes to almost make a dent in the public unconcious, just look at my martin lee anderson. The man who started that boot camp holds a seat on the board of Drug Free America Foundation. The man who took over as sherrif is a close affiliate through Florida Department of Law Enforcement and is a dyed in the wool drug warrior, appointed to that office by Brother Jeb! Büsh in the wake of a sex scandal involving the former sheriff.





Now, I don't doubt that sometimes people in positions of power over vulnerable female inmates sometimes take advantage of the situation. But it just looks damned fishy when you consider who promoted that story into a career buster and who benefited from it. Honest to God, just because the Büsh people and their creepy cult friends are involved, I tend to not believe the charges.

May your days be joyously challenging and your words artfully true.
--Ginger Warbis

"

Like the quote regarding politics. And thanks for the compliment Eudora. You are the one that started this website/forum, correct? Well, kudo's to you my dear. And, I do remember those ad campaigns. The message I got from those campaigns were just that-if you buy drugs you are donating to terrorists, etc. How does this tie in with the subject at hand? And please forgive me for sounding "Stupid" I need to do quite alot more research. And, I'm not so sure I agree with you that people have heard of this in one way or another. Maybe they have and like you said, just couldnt put 2 & 2 together. But why should people have to connect the dots? We should have pictures of abused children from these places on billboards that read "This is what happend when my parents sent me away?" Just throw it in people's faces. Ya know?

I have been forwarding websites on to all the people in my address book without even a subject line. Maybe I can create a snowball effect. Unfortunately, no one has emailed me back asking, "What is all this you keep sending me?" Even my closest friend that follows politics etc. that I have mentioned before. I just dont get it.



You talked about looking into the backgrounds of "the most lunatic of drug warriors" and found most of the directly tied to Mel and Betty's cult. So, that means that these drug lords are funding Mel and Betty Sembler. So, what do the terrorists have to do with it? Zealots? When I said I didnt follow politics, I meant it. As i said earlier, Please forgive me for sounding stupid. You'll have to allow me a little more time to respond to you. I have to research most of what you talk about before I can respond. lol. I will continue to discuss this issue as long as I have people to discuss it with. I'm sure I will need the opinions and the "education".



Thanks.



By the way, I did notice that Maia mentions this website in her book. :nworthy:



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[Nonconformistlaw]

On 2006-03-24 10:01:00, researcher1 wrote:

"Non- I definitely agree with you regarding the one on one therapy and the subject of outlawing all of these institutions using behavioral modification. Seems like no matter what the government does to try to "pasify" those that are in dispute with these agencies, they (agencies) seem to find just another way to get around it. Shutting these places down altogether, obviously will take so much time. Needless to say those parents that want the "quick fix" those parents that just don't have the patience, the love and compassion for their kids or are just too busy in their 6 figure income jobs or are too worried about keeping up with the jones' and more worried about how many designer labels hang in their closets, that they "shoo" their kids off to the first place that tells them what they want to hear."

Yes, I think as soon as parenting gets difficult, many parents just dont want to make the effort it takes and would much rather pass off the responsibility on someone else. Other well-meaning parents get sucked in because programs are experts at scaring vulnerable parents into believing that their child will end up dead or in jail without their program.

"...so easy it is to talk about an issue over a cup of tea and have much passion for it and still do nothing about it. So easy it is to go on with our lives and take the easy route."

Complacency is one of the troubled teen industry's best friends.

"So easy it is for people with money to get what they want. So sad it is...people with good hearts can be bought with the color green, and made to stay quiet or whatever."

Money is the root of all evil. (cliche yes, but so true)

"And so sad it is that there are actually people out there that think not even twice about molestation and abuse and locking kids up in 3'x3' boxes and making kids lie flat on their stomachs for 18 months straight in the same room."

Infuriating that certain people wholeheatledly believe that its ok to mistreat "bad" kids...that inflicing pain and suffering will "help" them. Very misguided people to say the very least.

"So sad it is that those of us that see right from wrong and can't be bought and truely have the best intentions for our children and society for those that deserve it can't jut be the leaders of our Nation."

That is partly because politics is inherently corrupt...what decent person can stomach that long enough to become a leader? I know I cant deal with it.

"Just do what's fucking right no matter how many votes you get. (SORRY FOR THE LANGUAGE)"

Hmmm...public pressure to outlaw these behavior modification hell-holes can force our lawmakers to do something for fear of losing votes! But unfortunately, that will take a hell of a lot of public pressure.

"Anyway, an uninformed public as you put it, Non, lack of a substained widespread public outcry, lack of oversight and regulations etc. I couldnt agree more. And of course the political aspects, ambassadorships being thrown around for less that 20K or whatever the figure was. It is nauseating. To say the least. Unfortunately, as far as the local news in Cincinnati, it doesnt go so far to reach IL. Maybe I can do something about that. I did at one time work for our local newspaper. :grin: "

And if your are free this Friday, you can help make the public outcry one person louder....there is a demonstration against KHK scheduled in Columbus the 31st.
Post URL: http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?to ... t=0#179104

[Nonconformistlaw]

On 2006-03-24 10:25:00, researcher1 wrote:

"We should have pictures of abused children from these places on billboards that read "This is what happend when my parents sent me away?" Just throw it in people's faces. Ya know?

I have been forwarding websites on to all the people in my address book without even a subject line. Maybe I can create a snowball effect. Unfortunately, no one has emailed me back asking, "What is all this you keep sending me?" Even my closest friend that follows politics etc. that I have mentioned before. I just dont get it.

On 2006-03-24 11:06:00 Eudora wrote:  
 
"Well, let me explain this if I can. No, maybe NCL can explain it better. NCL, please tell this person how many passers by came to your aid when your rents had you kidnapped back into Straight for holding hands with a boy."

I routinely send my friends links as well....and most do not seem to react or show interest at all...but I send them anyway just hoping to raise "a little awareness" (pardon the expression). You just never know who might eventually take an interest.
BTW, I like the billboard idea....

I have noticed how people in general dont like to be bothered with other people's problems....they would much rather ignore it...paying attention or helping others takes effort...most people dont want to sacrifice their own time at all.

As for my kidnapping, yeah in broad daylight, in a public parking lot, most customers coming and going ignored my screams for help (5 adults were trying to force me into a car)...one customer ultimately tried to help after I was in the car and did run inside the business to call the police after his efforts failed.  But yeah...most people who witnessed my kidnapping did not even want to bother helping me when I was obviously being abducted.  I have read other similar survivor accounts, but in those cases, not even one person stepped forward to help...I believe one such story was also written about in "Help At Any Cost"....I believe in one of the chapters about Miller Newton.

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"In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act." George Orwell

[researcher1]

Welcome, and thank you for your comments! :wave:

No, thank you. I am surprised, how responsive all of you are. I wasnt sure what to expect upon posting my first question. I am truely amazed at how much energy this forum has and the passion everyone has. The kindness within, set aside from vulgar comments from some anonymous posters-we are all free to our own opinions-,is well, I'll try not to be mushy, but it's heartwarming to me and I myself feel unworthy to those that have experienced the "wrath" of these... I find myself unable to find the most alarming words to describe these places. I'm sure everyone will get my point. I cant imagine what those of you have gone through emotionally and physically. what I went through in my childhood and teen years does not compare to what all of you have. My heart sincerely goes out to everyone, even those who believe they got the treatment they needed. I understand my sympathy and compassion may not be wanted or seem to be needed by all, but I dont believe the world is full of enough compassionate and caring individuals so I will do my best efforts to extend as much of even as little as a caring word even if it is unwanted. So again, Non, Eudora, 001010, Dr., and anyone else, I believe the applause is for you.

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You must be the change you wish to see in the world.   - Mohandas Ghandi
The eye sees only what the mind is prepared to comprehend.   - Henri L. Bergson
You see things; and you say "Why?"
But I dream things that never were and ask,"Why not?"[ This Message was edited by: Eudora on 2006-03-26 08:01 ]

[researcher1]

Ok, people, call me computer illiterate or whatever, I'm still trying to perfect this "quote" stuff and replying to quotes and all that. It's not quite perfection, but I strive. :silly:

[researcher1]

On 2006-03-24 07:56:00, Eudora wrote:
Watch the http://cbs5.com/homepage/topstories_sto ... 52552.html

_________________
You must be the change you wish to see in the world.
- Mohandas Ghandi
The eye sees only
what the mind is prepared to comprehend.
- Henri L. Bergson
You see things; and you say "Why?"
But I dream things that never were and ask,[ This Message was edited by: researcher1 on 2006-03-26 07:40 ]

[researcher1]

Gees. I just spent about half an hour typing and somehow managed to delete the whole thing just before I was done. Hopefully I can remember all that I said.

Non- I may sound a bit hypocritical here, Unfortunately, my time in Ohio will be no more as of this Mon. or Tues. I have much to do when I get home. I have the very last wisdom tooth that I was supposed to have pulled about 2 years ago screaming at me to come out. Nothing a few advils wont help, but nevertheless, it's the only time I'll be home for about another month. ALso, I am meeting with my counselor at college to discuss what direction I will take my education regarding my interests. Which is simply to help kids. And, I have to see my Grandmother who is probably not going to be around in six months. THe time I get at home is usually only a weekend but it's going to be a little more than that this time so I have to make the best of it and get done what I can. Some of my prior commitments seem a bit petty considering the impact of a demonstration. Please know, I would love to come. I will be there in spirit.

You also mentioned that it would be aired, what channel? DO you think it will only be local to Ohio or maybe CNN? Are there some local newspaper websites I can monitor?

I am only halfway through Maia's book. I find that everytime she mentions an agency or name I am on the internet researching. So, it is taking me awhile to finish it. I want to be able to discuss the issue with those uninformed intelligently. I believe she said that Straight had a branch in Springfield. I am going to try to investigate that along with trying to find anything going on in my area regarding the issues. Are you aware of anything in IL?

(i cant remember half of what i wrote that got deleted, im so pissed.)

Um, Eudora, I forgot to commend you on your letter being published by, was it, the Miami Herald? I'm quite intoxicated with an overload of information, so you'll have to excuse me if i'm wrong. At any rate, your voice is being heard! And a strong one it is.

Oh, yeah-- the website ISAC, what do you think of it? And along with the bill it talks about being passed, what do you folks think about that? I would like to have your input before I write my local rep. I know sometimes those less informed seem to miss articles or sections in bills that can corrupt the entire purpose, therefore end up voting for a corrupt bill.

I'm sure I've forgotten something. I feel like an author that just wrote his best chapter and it was deleted completely. ha ha.

Eudora, NON, help me out here. And, I'm serious about this, I am really struggling with where to take my education. I was unable to go to college when I was younger, 26 now, not like Im that old, but regardless, I travel with my significant other and I dont work everyday, more like a couple days out of the month. So, I want to take my spare time to return to school. I have finally figured out that the only thing I want to do as I have mentioned is help kids. Which is the exact thing that brought me to becoming aware of this whole issue. Actually brought me to Maia's book. Anyway, what do you think is the most needed position in the industry of "disturbed children".? )for lack of a better term?) To counsel kids takes 6 years. Social work takes 4. I could become a coach even. What do you think is the best approach or some ways I can explore?

Thanks.

[researcher1]

My, Lord! Am I hitting the wrong buttons or what?

[Anonymous]

On 2006-03-25 20:55:00, researcher1 wrote:

My, Lord! Am I hitting the wrong buttons or what?

[ quote ]
On 2006-03-24 07:56:00, Eudora wrote:

"[ quote ]

[ /quote ]
HERE is the problem ^

There should be an even number of closing & opening quote tags; you could try editing that post..

[Nonconformistlaw]

" So again, Non, Eudora, 001010, Dr., and anyone else, I believe the applause is for you."

I applaud YOU for taking the time to educate yourself about this issue...thank you!  :nworthy:

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"In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act." George Orwell