On 2006-03-22 12:51:00, Nonconformistlaw wrote:
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On 2006-03-22 09:13:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Thanks for the info. and the response. My next question, Why aren't more people aware of this problem and the history? One would think with most of this starting in Akron, Ohio at the site of the origination of AA, the state would be "tatooed" with information available simply to the naked eye. I am personally not from Ohio, but am briefly here for work. I can't believe I have never heard of this and simply stumbled upon it. I have a close friend that is nearly twice my age who has always kept up on issues regarding politics, etc. He too, had never heard of Straight Inc or The Seed or even Mel Sembler. I am amazed. My local news (IL) has never reported anything like this that I have been aware of. It should be headlining the news everyday! Do you think KHK is really being monitored by the State and behavior treatments are not as bizarre and morbidly abusive as they were years ago? I just can't understand why this isn't nationally known. I mean in a way that EVERYONE has heard someting about it."
A partial and incomplete answer to your question would be that these programs generally have many rules and policies in place that prevent insiders from revealing information to outsiders....often through twisted application of confidentiality rules and by cutting off communication for kids to the outside world...and of course by imposing or threatening harsh consequences to those who dare reveal to outsiders what is seen, heard and endured in these programs. There are also numerous facts that point to the government's unwillingness to investigate and point to outright cover ups. There is also a lot of money many people stand to lose (from clients) if the truth were well-known.
Eudora, would you elaborate on this more? I know you can articulate what I am struggling to explain better than I can.
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That's ok. You articulated it just fine. I understand what you are trying to say and I have gathered that conclusion. I am not at any point in doubt to what these kids are going through. It can seem to be somewhat confusing to the mixed stories that I have seen. Obviously, some of these kids after "successfully" graduating some of these organizations are literally brainwashed into believing that it actually helped and that they really did have a problem, etc. in reaction to the mental breakdown of these already feable children. So, I guess my next question, without condoning the actions of mistreatment to these children, how is society, once informed of this situation, that may not be as easily "convinced", if you will, differentiate from those that needed help, those that didnt and by viewing both sides of the spectrum really see the problem? Let's face it, this has been going on for quite some time now, 1970's? Granted, time has given us the opportunity to shut down those centers and expose those accused along with stories of those poor children (Richard Bradbury, Aaron Bacon) and I'm sure thousands more. But, it still goes on. So, what has actually been accomplished? I'm not asking that in a "read between the lines" kind of way to say that it's effortless or nothing has come of people's efforts. Why haven't these people been indicted? "these people" being those listed at Anonymity Anonymous: Florida Chapter
http://fornits.com/anonanon/#discussionIs the government not spending it's tax dollars wisely enough to where more attention is focused on these programs to ensure the safety of our youth? Oh, but I guess then it would require another government association which hires people not really qualified for the job and could care less about what they are investigating and controlling except how much overtime they work and how many 0's are at the end of their pay check. Uhh. This just proves why I never found interest in politics or following it.
