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« Reply #1050 on: April 13, 2006, 06:39:00 PM »
"Another red flag.......a HUGE scarlett, crimson, blood red, screaming flag.

?Google search on Carlbrook and Len Buccellato."

Did you even READ what you Googled?  Len B has absolutely nothing to do with Carlbrook. The two words appeared on the same page on Woodbury's site. Are you an idiot?
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« Reply #1051 on: April 13, 2006, 06:42:00 PM »
Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't Bucci on the board of either NATSAP or some other organization that makes these places appear legit?
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« Reply #1052 on: April 13, 2006, 06:44:00 PM »
Or he started it?  Not sure, that's why I'm asking.

Did he have anything to do with how Carlbrook set up it's "emotional growth" seminars or programs or whatever the fuck they're called now?
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« Reply #1053 on: April 13, 2006, 06:49:00 PM »
Len B has no connection to Carlbrook and never did. The school was started by Grant Price and the Merritt brothers. Tim Brace signed on at the beginning.  The schools are not very similar at all.
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« Reply #1054 on: April 13, 2006, 06:51:00 PM »
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« Reply #1055 on: April 13, 2006, 06:55:00 PM »
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"Len B has no connection to Carlbrook and never did. The school was started by Grant Price and the Merritt brothers. Tim Brace signed on at the beginning.  The schools are not very similar at all."


I've read the Carlbrook page and read the HLA page.  Not much difference I can see.
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« Reply #1056 on: April 13, 2006, 06:58:00 PM »
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Did you even READ what you Googled?  Len B has absolutely nothing to do with Carlbrook. The two words appeared on the same page on Woodbury's site. Are you an idiot?"


You're right.  I glanced at the page and thought it was the one I was looking for.  I was wrong.  This is what I was looking for
 http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?to ... t=20#49405
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« Reply #1057 on: April 13, 2006, 07:12:00 PM »
I don't remember too much about the Carlbrook workshops... something about a bear trap and a pinata, and then it all goes blank.


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« Reply #1058 on: April 13, 2006, 11:13:00 PM »
Old info.
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« Reply #1059 on: April 14, 2006, 08:31:00 AM »
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"Old info."


It may be, but it's still relevant.  Spin off after spin off.  Set up with the same basics (especially the damn seminars), some of the same staff as other abusive facilities.

So many programs open up under the guise of being the 'kinder, gentler' program.  When you start with the basics of changing someone's behavior or ideology against their will, it's dangerous.

Virtually the same package with a slightly different wrapper.
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« Reply #1060 on: April 14, 2006, 08:57:00 AM »
THe fact that SOME of the staff came from programs with methods which you might not approve has no bearing on Carlbrook. If the founders of the school and the senior staff set up a different model, these people are very capable of buying in and changing the way they operate.  Once again, you are so stuck in the past that you don't understand that things are not static. People learn- programs change- not every school that opens is just another one of the old ones.  So what if someone worked at Hidden Lake? Perhaps they strongly disagreed with the methods there and wanted to be part of something different.  There are only a certain number of high quality, dedicated emotional health professionals in this industry, and Carlbrook has attracted the best of them (except for Glenn Bender).
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« Reply #1061 on: April 14, 2006, 09:05:00 AM »
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If the founders of the school and the senior staff set up a different model, these people are very capable of buying in and changing the way they operate.

What model would that be?

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Once again, you are so stuck in the past that you don't understand that things are not static. People learn- programs change- not every school that opens is just another one of the old ones.  So what if someone worked at Hidden Lake? Perhaps they strongly disagreed with the methods there and wanted to be part of something different.  There are only a certain number of high quality, dedicated emotional health professionals in this industry, and Carlbrook has attracted the best of them (except for Glenn Bender)."


The basic premise and methodology of behavior modification is what scares me.  There may or may not be outright physical abuse, I have no clue.  I haven't heard of any so right now I'm inclined to believe there is not.  That does not mean that no damage is done.  Mucking around inside someone's psyche has inherent dangers.  Carlbrook may well be kinder and gentler, I don't know.  What I do know is that these seminars (they've been called a variety of things throughout the various programs but these really are basically the same) are very often more damaging than actual physical abuse.
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« Reply #1062 on: April 14, 2006, 09:24:00 AM »
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Mucking around inside someone's psyche has inherent dangers. Carlbrook may well be kinder and gentler, I don't know. What I do know is that these seminars (they've been called a variety of things throughout the various programs but these really are basically the same) are very often more damaging than actual physical abuse.


This is true.  I've seen the damage caused by this type of unfettered "regression therapy" marathon sessions.  It is especially damaging to the developing mind.
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« Reply #1063 on: April 14, 2006, 09:30:00 AM »
I like Glenn Bender.  He was my favorite person at Carlbrook.
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« Reply #1064 on: April 14, 2006, 09:31:00 AM »
Until you have a REAL understanding of the Carlbrook workshops, why don't you stop opining? You don't KNOW how they are conducted. You are basing your opinion on textbook information about a type of regression technique and you have no idea if this is how the Carlbrook workshops operate. And, no, there doesn't appear to be anyone willing to enlighten you. .
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