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Offline Deborah

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« Reply #210 on: August 01, 2005, 07:51:00 PM »
***You might notice that no one from ST has ever said your stories aren't true.

What I notice, is that yes, in this very thread they have:
http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?to ... 190#120038

Parents- you would be better off getting advice from http://www.strugglingteens.com than from here. This site is a militaristic group of disgruntled teens and young adults (with a few disgruntled adults thrown in who can't get past their teens) and the advice is not reliable.
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« Reply #211 on: August 01, 2005, 08:02:00 PM »
"advice is not reliable" does not equate to "stories are not true".   Deborah, you've killed whatever brain cells you might have once had.
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« Reply #212 on: August 01, 2005, 08:06:00 PM »
I've looked at her posts, folks and there is absolutely no proof that Deborah ever had any brain cells!
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« Reply #213 on: August 01, 2005, 08:08:00 PM »
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On 2005-08-01 16:50:00, Anonymous wrote:

"Oh boy, that last post was a great example of insightfulness and biting humor combined(the emotocons add a nice touch for those who have a hard time with both ideas and words)."


Aren't you snide.. I feel bad for your child and family, I really do. This game will be more fun once we have identified who you are. Have you posted on struggling teens before? If you have, the publically post IP addresses attached to each of your posts. You didn't actually think it was that hard for me to obtain your IP here, did you?  :rofl:
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« Reply #214 on: August 01, 2005, 08:10:00 PM »
Look, just stop feeding the ST trolls, apprently they just insult people. They dont really debate anything. Apprently the admins and Lon can't teach the parents humanity or common sence, so just don't worry about it any more. These people are behaving worse than their children, and really really need to learn how to discuss, because they cant do it here, and very few of them can do it on ST.
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our walking down a hallway, you turn left, you turn right. BRICK WALL!

GAH!!!!

Yeah, hes a survivor.

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« Reply #215 on: August 01, 2005, 08:12:00 PM »
They are just documenting the behavior of a typical program parent. Let them, for all the world to see what horrible people they are. I for one enjoy it very much. They just continue to prove us all right.
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« Reply #216 on: August 01, 2005, 08:13:00 PM »
That's right, compare forced marches and limited calories to sporting events.

I played a number of sports, very physical sports, as did my kids and now my grandson. Soccer, double-headers, football, in 100^ weather and I don't recall one instance of a kid falling over and puking.

Speaking strictly for myself, there may be some useful things taught, like the bow drill exercise which I particularly liked, but... the point is that the means don't justify the ends. It is not rational or reasonable to put kids in harm's way for the few useful things they might learn in the process.

If it's emotional breakdowns/throughs you're looking for, I get the feeling that could'be been accomplished at home if the parents had required them to take out the trash or make any other reasonable contribution to the household.

Perhaps the best that could come from this series is that some parents wake up and realize that they are contributing to the disability of their minor.
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« Reply #217 on: August 01, 2005, 08:15:00 PM »
Not to mention how stupid they look. Every post ends with a bash on fornits. Then they come back for more.  :lol:

How long until they post again.... 3..2...1
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« Reply #218 on: August 01, 2005, 08:18:00 PM »
Come on. We know you CANT resist.  :rofl:
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« Reply #219 on: August 01, 2005, 08:29:00 PM »
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On 2005-08-01 07:15:00, Anonymous wrote:

"You are so full of shit.  I hope you never have kids, because you would be literally shocked to death at how your fairy tale version of the "right things to do" can turn out.  Do you think these parents didn't do many of these things?  It ain't that easy, moron.



Overlordd- I'm disappointed in your rant. You were beginning to make some friends over on the other site.  All that will be destroyed now with your immature swearing and anger.  Too bad I can't post it over there- but it is too ridiculous to be appropriate.    "



Actually he was expressing some raw emotions. Until we allow kids like him to express themselves there will be no helpful dialouge. get past the swearing and see that he feels attacked. He's a kid for crying out loud.
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« Reply #220 on: August 01, 2005, 08:43:00 PM »
But Webcrawler,

Emotions are simply not allowed outside the confines of a prison, woops..program. They have zero tolerance for anger, in others that is. It's scarey. One of the reasons they send their kids away. They don't have to hear it. Then they sit around in their 'Let's all be nice', heavily monitored support group and pretend that they're all beyond anger.
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« Reply #221 on: August 01, 2005, 08:49:00 PM »
I have a question for all you Fornitscators.
When IS it acceptable parenting to send a kid away?  Is a normal college prep boarding school OK if the kid wants to go there?  What about an 8 weeks summer program (music, camp, sports whatever)? What if the kid has a serious addiction?  Is in-patient treatment like Betty Ford or Hazelden OK?  
Or- are all these examples of letting someone else parent your kid?  When you send a kid to a boarding school to give him or her a superior educational opportunity, you are turning over a lot of the responsibility for your child to the faculty and staff in charge.  Is this a bad thing?  So-if you know that your kid has a serious emotional problem, why are you a bad parent for putting him or her in an emotional growth program where intense therapy is offered?
I don't get where the line in drawn.
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« Reply #222 on: August 01, 2005, 08:52:00 PM »
Deborah, you brilliant psychologist you-  anger is driven by some other emotion. It isn't a matter of not "tolerating" anger.  It is a matter of getting at the root cause of that anger- whether it be fear, hurt, frustration.....  Usually this requires quite a bit of therapy and a willingness to dig deep inside. These programs seem to cultivate that willingness to dig- peer pressure helps with this. No, it isn't always pretty, but it is necessary to wade through some pain to get to the other side.
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« Reply #223 on: August 01, 2005, 08:53:00 PM »
Because family problems and issues stemming from them should be addressed as a family.
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« Reply #224 on: August 01, 2005, 08:55:00 PM »
"Because family problems and issues stemming from them should be addressed as a family."

And that is an answer to WHAT???
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