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« Reply #195 on: August 01, 2005, 03:57:00 PM »
O Lordy, perhaps you didn't read what I said.  I didn't say has anyone posted anything ever from this site onto ST, because there are a number of instances where you proclaimed your particular bias and agenda and that information was posted at ST.

I said has anyone ever posted honest to goodness stories of abuse from here onto ST just so the 'ST parents' could all laugh at your pain.  No.  That would be wrong.  I'm just asking here for the same respect.

You might notice that no one from ST has ever said your stories aren't true.  They may well be, and if they are it's a shame.  The point is that there is effective care out there for self-destructive children (as there is for self-destructive adults), for children and adults with demonstrated clinical mental health needs.  I'm bewildered that you believe that legitimate therapy is automatically abuse.
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« Reply #196 on: August 01, 2005, 03:58:00 PM »
This has become just a bunch of name calling. No one can judge someone's parenting ability from a few posts OR by the fact that they sent a kid to an emotional growth program.  You seem to think you have all the answers, when, in fact, you are operating from one sole, erroneous premise- no teen should be sent to a program.  It happens that my teen is doing quite well since he left his program and would never waste his time on a board like this. This has become annoying and pointless- sort of like playing a tennis match with a blind person.
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« Reply #197 on: August 01, 2005, 04:16:00 PM »
If you don't want to be here, leave. It's pretty simple.

You get no pity of misunderstanding from me. If you wish to be more clear, explain yourself better instead of :cry: about it.
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« Reply #198 on: August 01, 2005, 04:52:00 PM »
Look back over these threads since Brat Camp went on the air---growing numbers of parents posting here---spelling out how it makes no sense to let kids run amok---disputing the party line here that all programs are evil.

Meanwhile---like people rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic----the site regulars try to convince themselves that all these new posts are coming from one anonymous troll associated with ST. Too funny!

Brat Camp is the vehicle that's going to bring these programs mainstream folks---cry about it all you want---your complaints are about to get caught in a popular wave that will reduce the impact of your whining complaints even further
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« Reply #199 on: August 01, 2005, 04:55:00 PM »
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« Reply #200 on: August 01, 2005, 05:08:00 PM »
Yeah but---see Deb--most people have never heard of the Child Welfare League or whatever it's called---just one more bureaucratic complaint group I bet.

And a good percentage of those who've heard of it don't care about their bureaucratic opinions---and will opt for making their own determinations as parents about what to do with their children.  Groups like this have lost credibility because they have bitched and moaned too much about little things and they never seem to back up parental discipline---they're obsolete

You don't get it---but I imagine with time you'll catch on--then you'll really have something to whine about!
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« Reply #201 on: August 01, 2005, 05:19:00 PM »
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"You don't get it---but I imagine with time you'll catch on--then you'll really have something to whine about!"


And what exactly are you whining about.. whining about other people whining? LMAO get a life.
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« Reply #202 on: August 01, 2005, 05:21:00 PM »
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"Look back over these threads since Brat Camp went on the air---growing numbers of parents posting here---spelling out how it makes no sense to let kids run amok---disputing the party line here that all programs are evil."


There hasn't been any change at all, expect this forum has a lot more use now. Sure, there are a couple parents that come by here, and we all know where they are from.

It's wonderful how you state these things in a forum with THOUSANDS of posts telling you exactly the opposite, and a hanful which agree with you.

Who is delusional here? YOU!
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« Reply #203 on: August 01, 2005, 05:32:00 PM »
I have been watching Brat Camp for a few weeks now and found this forum after searching.

Our teenager also talks back to us, doesn't finish all his homework on time, and has started wearing dark clothing. We are worried he might start ditching school, hanging out with the wrong kids, start smoking pot and eventually lead himself down the path to suicide, drugs, death and jail.

Thanks to ABC for a show like Brat Camp. I had no idea you could send your kid off like that, to another state to be punished. I am a single mother who has a very hard time disciplining my child. I like the idea of having professionals handling this for me.

I would like more information on programs please. But I think Brat Camp is too easy and too short for my child. I want it to last several years, and I'd rather have him away from girls and temptations.

Has anyone here sent their own child away?
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« Reply #204 on: August 01, 2005, 05:44:00 PM »
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« Reply #205 on: August 01, 2005, 05:53:00 PM »
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On 2005-07-25 13:34:00, dougm wrote:

My first hike, we need to scale a small rock face, basically about 100 ft of steps. I fell over a few times and threw up. I was reassured by my peers that this was normal, and the counselors would make us continue until we reached our destination, regardless of fatigue level.


Well, let me assure you that falling over and puking is NOT normal! It's a sign of possibly serious illness or injury. Doug, the only difference between you and some of the kids who didn't make it is LUCK! These dumb bastards have repeatedly marched kids to death, insisting that they were just faking to get out. I understand you were there voluntarily, right? And how many days did it take to convince them that you weren't faking?

They serve so that we don't have to. They offer to give up their lives so that we can be free. It is, remarkably, their gift to us. And all they ask for in return is that we never send them into harm's way unless it is absolutely necessary. Will they ever trust us again?

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« Reply #206 on: August 01, 2005, 07:33:00 PM »
What were you thinking, Dou---did you really think that you were the best authority on your own experience and what it meant to you?  

Don't you realize that you have to clear your interpretations about your life with all-knowing people at this forum.

You may BELIEVE that your program helped you---but only truly objective and rational types, with no ax to grind---like maybe Antigen or Deborah---can really tell you what your program was about and what effects it actually had on you
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« Reply #207 on: August 01, 2005, 07:37:00 PM »
Where's Devlin been through all this?  Did he exhaust his reportoire of 3 words?

Good post below-  of course none of us are qualified to know anything about parenting and none of the teens can possibly be right if they think they needed the program to which they were sent.  

While falling over and throwing up isn't ideal, it sounds very similar to many athletic events in which many of us participate!  I have seen a lot of pride on the faces of young people coming out of wilderness programs. In many ways, they have accomplished things they have never had an opportunity to accomplish before. Being pushed and stretched- by TRAINED staff- is not a bad thing.

But-what do I know?  We all should defer to the Gods of Fornitcation or whatever this pathetic site is.
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« Reply #208 on: August 01, 2005, 07:41:00 PM »
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"We all should defer to the Gods of Fornitcation"


YES!  :roll:
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« Reply #209 on: August 01, 2005, 07:50:00 PM »
Oh boy, that last post was a great example of insightfulness and biting humor combined(the emotocons add a nice touch for those who have a hard time with both ideas and words).
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