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« Reply #180 on: August 01, 2005, 11:31:00 AM »
Funny in a sort of horrible way like when I heard Charles Manson on some documentary---his interview conversation just sort of drifted from fairly normal into a psychotic rant over just a few minutes.  Overall his use of language and his omission of nasty-speak was a step up from Overlordd though

Your "friends" over at ST: get a clue Overlordd---they think you're a joke over there too, it's called "humoring the crazy person"
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« Reply #181 on: August 01, 2005, 12:03:00 PM »
Is that it? Is that all you got? Comparing me to Charles Manson? I mean come on, debate with me, argue with me, respond to me, but comparing me to charles manson is so damned pointless its fucking insulting, not because you compaired him to me but you wasited my time to chastise you.

And doing the right this has always worked out well for me, thank you oh so much.
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our walking down a hallway, you turn left, you turn right. BRICK WALL!

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« Reply #182 on: August 01, 2005, 12:30:00 PM »
See what I mean---he's great!!
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« Reply #183 on: August 01, 2005, 12:53:00 PM »
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On 2005-07-29 21:03:00, AtomicAnt wrote:

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On 2005-07-29 20:39:00, Anonymous wrote:


"I predict that within 6 months you will be sending your son to a program.  You will not be able to manage him at home, and his drug use will greatly increase.  Perhaps wilderness is not the right place due to his anxiety disorder, but there are very good reasons why the kids can only communicate by letter.  The family dynamics are usually a big part of the underlying problem, and need to be removed from the equation before progress can be made."




What a crock! The whole point of NOT removing a kid from the family is because the family dynamics are part of the problem; AND MUST BE ADDRESSED. Family therapy is the best way to address these issues. Removing a kid, changing him, then dumping him back into the dysfunctional family solves nothing. Rehab specialists have known that since the 1960s.



What is the deal with allowing dysfunctional and perhaps abusive parents the priviledge of blaming everything on the teen and sending him/her away to be fixed, while they sit at home smug and guilt free thinking they 'did the right thing?'



The real reason for cutting ties with the parents is to deny the teen the support system. He is easier to break if his parents are not there to protect him. It is easier to manipulate the parents if the program can screen the letters and do damage control by calling the parents and misinforming them that their child is just lying and manipulating. The child cries for help and the program tells the parents not to interfere or they will mess up the kid's progress. Say what you like, but it is the perfect set up for abuse. It is a pedophile's (or sadist's) dream come true.

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Makes me think about the place I was in and when we "earned" the right to talk to our parents it was only for 5 minutes and we could only apologize for a specific incident in the past. We could not communicate about anything else and our parents were told to tell on us if we did and we were told to tell on them if they went off the path. I don't see how such controlled dialouge was helpful to either one of us.
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« Reply #184 on: August 01, 2005, 01:17:00 PM »
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On 2005-08-01 07:15:00, Anonymous wrote:

"You are so full of shit.  I hope you never have kids, because you would be literally shocked to death at how your fairy tale version of the "right things to do" can turn out.  Do you think these parents didn't do many of these things?  It ain't that easy, moron.



Overlordd- I'm disappointed in your rant. You were beginning to make some friends over on the other site.  All that will be destroyed now with your immature swearing and anger.  Too bad I can't post it over there- but it is too ridiculous to be appropriate."


You know, Overlord, I can't say I have been too happy with a lot of your posts about ST people being okay. But if you are capable of pissing of some program parent THIS much-- you are okay in my book!  :wave:
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« Reply #185 on: August 01, 2005, 01:22:00 PM »
"It's pretty obvious we only have ONE program troll over here."


Guess again, junior.
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« Reply #186 on: August 01, 2005, 01:32:00 PM »
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On 2005-08-01 10:22:00, Anonymous wrote:

""It's pretty obvious we only have ONE program troll over here."





Guess again, junior."


OH Good, another friend!  :wave:
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« Reply #187 on: August 01, 2005, 01:34:00 PM »
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« Reply #188 on: August 01, 2005, 01:35:00 PM »
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On 2005-08-01 10:22:00, Anonymous wrote:

""It's pretty obvious we only have ONE program troll over here."





Guess again, junior."


Hey and at least we know you fucks read our responses.. I can't say I do more than scim your long rantings.. but thanks for the laughs anyways. I'll see you over at ST.
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« Reply #189 on: August 01, 2005, 03:21:00 PM »
This thread was going very nicely until a Struggling Parent threw a verbal molotov cocktails into the discussion:

Parents- you would be better off getting advice from http://www.strugglingteens.com than from here. This site is a militaristic group of disgruntled teens and young adults (with a few disgruntled adults thrown in who can't get past their teens) and the advice is not reliable.

Parents- if you have questions on specific programs, post on strugglingteens and you will get honest and thorough responses- from people who actually can construct a sentence.

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I agree that there are exceptions, but your ignorance and anger are clouding what is left of your brain.

You are a moron.

OK- I get it. You weren't ever in therapy. It's all clear now. You need to be!

H E L L O, idiots! We did EVERYTHING possible.

That would not---in my books at least---include you---somebody who lost control of her own kids to "others" and who now fights a futileamd ego-driven battle to prove that those "others" made a wrong choice---you are the last person to whom I would come for guidance in raising my kids.

You are so full of shit. It ain't that easy, moron.

Funny in a sort of horrible way like when I heard Charles Manson on some documentary---his interview conversation just sort of drifted from fairly normal into a psychotic rant over just a few minutes. Overall his use of language and his omission of nasty-speak was a step up from Overlordd though
Your "friends" over at ST: get a clue Overlordd---they think you're a joke over there too, it's called "humoring the crazy person"

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Disrespect is disresepct. If you trolls from ST think that your expressions of disrespect are any less disrespectful than the comments that have been made to you, then you are sadly mistaken. It?s precisely this double standard that drives some kids as far away from their folks as they can get. Perhaps you?ll learn more about that if you stick around, cause I for one will point it out at every opportunity. Get off your high horse and interact or go back to ST where you can pretend to be perfect and that all would be perfect, if your kid would just submit to your irrational fears and attempts to control... oh yes, and your double standards.


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« Reply #190 on: August 01, 2005, 03:33:00 PM »
Has anyone from ST posted your stories over there just to poke fun at your pain?  Didn't think so.  There's your double standard.
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« Reply #191 on: August 01, 2005, 03:37:00 PM »
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On 2005-08-01 12:33:00, Anonymous wrote:

"Has anyone from ST posted your stories over there just to poke fun at your pain?  Didn't think so.  There's your double standard."


And don't think we will stop. I love laughing at you pathetic parents who can't raise a kid.  :rofl:  :rofl:  :rofl:
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« Reply #192 on: August 01, 2005, 03:41:00 PM »
yeah actually some one did post what I said here over there, and guess what. I stood up for what I said. YOu should do the same
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« Reply #193 on: August 01, 2005, 03:42:00 PM »
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On 2005-08-01 07:15:00, Anonymous wrote:

"You are so full of shit.  I hope you never have kids, because you would be literally shocked to death at how your fairy tale version of the "right things to do" can turn out.  Do you think these parents didn't do many of these things?  It ain't that easy, moron.



Overlordd- I'm disappointed in your rant. You were beginning to make some friends over on the other site.  All that will be destroyed now with your immature swearing and anger.  Too bad I can't post it over there- but it is too ridiculous to be appropriate.    "






I don't see how saying that a parent should listen to their kids and get to know the kid's friends and his parents is in any way "fairy tale," but I guess when you have a parent who calls a complete stranger on the internet "a moron" and saying "you are so full of shit" you are really dealing with an immature adult.
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« Reply #194 on: August 01, 2005, 03:49:00 PM »
To this ST troll, you live in fairy tail land if you DONT send your kid to a program. Koo Koo  :silly:
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