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« Reply #30 on: July 28, 2005, 11:19:00 PM »
When is the petition going to be delivered? Over 300 now. That's not bad.
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« Reply #31 on: July 29, 2005, 08:24:00 PM »

One of the greatest delusions in the world is the hope that the evils in this world are to be cured by legislation.
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« Reply #32 on: July 29, 2005, 08:29:00 PM »
I think we need to demand that our government help our american children enrolled in these abusive,dangerous schools.

all of our kids deserve the attention and energy that is being spent on the Alabama girl missing in the foreign country of Aruba.  The same energy need apply to the Jamaica facility and thechildren enrolled there.

BOYCOTT Jamaica.The tourist need to stop going until all of are kids are removed off that island and brought home.
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« Reply #33 on: July 29, 2005, 09:09:00 PM »

He, who has nothing, and who himself belongs to another, must be defended by him, whose property he is, and needs no arms. But he, who thinks he is his own master, and has what he can call his own, ought to have arms to defend himself, and what he possesses; else he lives precariously, and at discretion.
http://press-pubs.uchicago.edu/founders/documents/a1_8_12s4.html' target='_new'> James Burgh 1774

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« Reply #34 on: July 30, 2005, 04:24:00 PM »
DP- you are inspiring!

Antigen- I sure hope all that wheel spinning did not alienate the people like you've said- I can't imagine why on earth that would be the case.  Far as explanation for why I support the bill- I don't think that matters.  I already signed- its important for others to see why they should support it and sign.  If you're saying I should explain the bill to them, then that's different- in that instance I think the name says it all.  thnkx for the advice on outside the forum activities, i do realize that is an option- if I had more time.  Additionaly I attend a school that is full of cummuters (hence minimal campus activity) and most poor students that come from working class families- they have little empathy for a cause that involves mostly indiiduals outside of their class (even if this is not exclusively so).  I made a small attempt at one point-   thnx anyway.

I was going to send petition in this Monday but I'm working with Allison Pinto PhD. from USF to spread the word around her circles- then after that I'll send it out.  I've sent my letter, I hope you're all making your calls sending your letters too, even if its likely this bill won't see light of day- gotta start somewhere.

Seems to me many people have been far too damaged and become inactive, thus tacitly consent to these programs and what they have done to them
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« Reply #35 on: July 30, 2005, 07:08:00 PM »
Kat,
Great to see that i am inspiring someone.
I think that antigen had a point with the things that she said to ye and meant well. I just don't think that she thought it all through before she had sent what she typed. She is still "good people" though, even though I do not know her personally I have heard that about her through some reliable sources. Also, I know what ye mean about spreading the word around campus. It can be very hard to hold peoples attention about these kind of things especially if they have never experienced things like this personally themselves.
I also agree with you that "The programs" have beaten a lot of survivors down so badly that they don't know how to get back up from all of it.
This is the reason that I keep going and keep fighting, not only for myself but for the ones that cannot do it and cannot get back up and for the kids that it is now happening to as we speak.One of the reasons I feel that the federal petition has taken off now like it has is b/c I have been non stop promoting it. I have plastered it literally on some very key sites on the net, and have been emailing friends and family to sign and pass it along to whoever they know as well.
I also employed the help of the democratic party and also the moveon.org people.
I am hoping that HR 1738 petition will reach 400 signatures by early next week. At the rate it has been going it looks like it may just do that.
Since this is a federal petition we really need a couple of thousand signatures for them to take this seriously and actually investigate this.
If we work hard and do the foot work I feel the rest will take care of itself.
Thanks for your input again!
Take care of yourself and I hope that ye are having a good day.
-DP

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« Reply #36 on: July 31, 2005, 01:52:00 AM »
About 350 so far - not too bad. Hopefully this will at least get to a vote by the house.
It could at least make a dent in this very unregulated industry -where those who try to educate the public are shot down and sued maliciously. It will definitely take an act of Congress to open up the eyes of the public.
I hope that everyone here does something to help with this legislation.

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« Reply #37 on: July 31, 2005, 12:17:00 PM »
TSW - Please also take a few minutes and write these gentlemen as suggested in this post:


Post URL: http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?to ... =10#114566




We who support this bill know darn well it's not the all-mighty answer, but it's a start.

I personally am in contact with Congressman Miller's office and I know for a fact that if this bill is not set for hearing it will not make it to the floor. It has to make it's way to Chairman Hyde, and that hasn't happened yet. I called Hyde's office the other day. So until these gentlemen hear from us this thing is going no where. I strongly urge you to sign the petition and send your letters.

So please send your letters to:

Chairman John Boehner
Committee of Education in the Workplace
1011 Longworth HOB
Washington, DC 20515

and to:

Chairman Henry Hyde
House International Committee
2170 Rayburn HOB
Washington, DC 20515

Let them know your personal experiences and why you feel this should pass.
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« Reply #38 on: July 31, 2005, 09:05:00 PM »
:cool:

How often, or on what system, the Thought Police plugged in any individual wire was guesswork. It was even conceivable that they watched everybody all the time. But at any rate, they could plug in your wire whenever they wanted to.
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0451524934/circlofmiamithem' target='_new'>George Orwell, 1984

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« Reply #39 on: August 01, 2005, 07:10:00 PM »
359 today and climbing!
See, we can all accomplish this together! Let's do it!
regards,
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A government resting on the minority is an aristocracy, not a Republic, and could not be safe with a numerical and physical force against it, without a standing army, an enslaved press and a disarmed populace.
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« Reply #40 on: August 01, 2005, 10:14:00 PM »

Wicked men obey from fear, good men from love.
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« Reply #41 on: August 02, 2005, 05:49:00 PM »
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On 2005-07-19 23:06:00, Deprogrammed wrote:

"and also..let's not forget this one:

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« Reply #42 on: August 04, 2005, 05:00:00 PM »

This I believe: That the free, exploring mind of the individual human is the most valuable thing in the world. And this I would fight for: The freedom of the mind to take any direction it wishes, undirected. And this I must fight against: Any idea, religion, or government which limits or destroys the individual.
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« Reply #43 on: August 07, 2005, 05:33:00 PM »
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Patient memoirs are a kind of protest literature like slave narratives or witness testimonies.
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ned=us&q=G.A.Hornstein&btnmeta%3Dsearch%3Dsearch=Search+the+Web' target='_new'>G.A.Hornstein

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« Reply #44 on: August 11, 2005, 01:03:00 AM »
please continue to sign the petition and pass it on....
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