getting abused at the whitmore

[Anonymous]

and Tory...i pity you. Out of any one i would think that you would be one of the ones to also come forth and tell the truth. You are a very wise person, no doubt about that.

Do you truly think that lyin about what happened with Joey anda ll the other crap to cover for Cheryl and MARK was the right thing to do? When is it for the right time for an honest man to lie? do you remember that question you asked me???  i thought about it long and hard. I think the answer should be no. Especially if the whitmore is  such a  "Loving Family" like you guys loved eachother soo much.
If they were really a family they would do whut was best for eachother instead of burying the truth with a bunch of crap which has made it worse. Since Cheryl is so big on her "Karma" theory...it will come for her , meaning she will somehow realize that she will have to take all of the accountability for the actions she did to others and let what happen go on and on.

yEAH I HAD my good times there and bad ones too. I have taken the good and left the bad. You don't need to be there any more Tory, go out and conquer your real dream > peace corps or whutever. I know u have a special gift of helping people cause u were really the only one there who helped me truly and i luv you for that. You're almost 18. Go on with your life and realize that they have you trapped too. think about it.

[Cayo Hueso]

On 2005-02-15 12:39:00, Anonymous wrote:

"Cayo Hueso, have you not figured out that the "VOLUMES" of kids on this site are really only 2 or 3 kids, that most of children who leave Whitmore do so with a more optimistic view of life. You know, you really should visit the Mansion. You might be surprised."

This is what I actually wrote:

Really?? Have you read any of the posts here from kids that are either currently in there or fairly recently out?? It speaks volumes about how they're being taught to "express themselves".

http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?to ... t=20#81624


I said that the posts from however many kids SPEAKS volumes about what they're being taught in there. Although I personally don't believe its only 2 or 3 kids I don't know for sure.  

Here's a question that's never really been answered.  Why, if Cheryl cares so much about these kids, is she allowing them to take on the burden of defending her?  We all know she's reading these posts....why can't she come here and defend herself?  Why does she feel she needs to use these kids to do it for her?

Forgive, O Lord, my little joke on Thee and I'll  forgive Thy great big one on me.
--Robert Frost, American poet

[Anonymous]

On 2005-02-27 18:31:00, Anonymous wrote:

"Gypsy is TORI DEGARMO :smile: "

Don't know who these people are, but there is a person with the same last name (DeGarmo) listed as a "parent volunteer" for PURE.

http://helpyourteens.com/about_us.html

[Anonymous]

If you read these postings, it seems clear that it is probably Tori using the name Gypsy.

PURE's roll appears to just keep the beds full at Whitmore, and make the referral fees, not to chat back and forth in this teenage bickering, as heartbreaking as some of the diaglog is.

It does seem strange and almost likea  bad business decision to me anyway that a few referrals fees seem so be so important to PURE, who keeps sending kids to Whitmore, some even  by "escorts" (that's a nice sounding word now isn't it?)when the Sudweeks are still under investigation for child abuse, sexual abuse and other charges.  If I were in this business of sending kids to a treatment program (not that I'd ever consider doing this for a living)--I'd sure back off from this place until I was assured that all the criminal investigations were OVER...just to be on the safe side. And if for no other reason, just to satisfy myself that for sure, I wasn't putting any kid in any danger. But, that's just my opinion...and no one asked me, now did they?

[Joyce Harris]

Replying to Anonymous:

You said: "If you don't like it, don't put your kid here."

We placed our daughter at Whitmore based on a lot of misrepresentations in the literature that the Sudweeks had on the internet, and in their brochures about Whitmore. We also listened to what Mark Sudweeks, Tim Lowe, and Sue Scheff from PURE told us about Whitmore--and most of it was UNTRUE.  So we had no way to know if we "liked it or not--except what was based on a bunch of lies."

You said that kids were writing negative things on this site just to "get revenge."  Just what do you think kids have to get revenge about?  The definition of revenge in Websters is: retaliation for an offense or injury.  So it stands that to seek "revenge," these kids had to have been hurt badly in someway to begin with.

You also stated that in a FAMILY that "brothers and sisters fight."  That may be true; BUT the parents in a normal family DO NOT have several siblings gang up on one sibling and beat him or her mercilessly.  And brothers and sisters in a normal FAMILY do not engage in sexual activities that are approved of by the parents--that is called INCEST.

You are attempting to defend the indefensible.

[Cayo Hueso]

On 2005-02-15 15:58:00, Anonymous wrote:

Have you every met Cheryl and Mark?

No thanks, I've had to deal with my share of cult leaders already.

What do you really know?...and why are you out to get them?

I'm not out to get them.  I am out to expose them however.  

Whitmore is not perfect for every family and if there are parents who don't like it, then don't put your kids there.

Joyce addressed this point quite successfully.

 

But stop making it so difficult for the kids who do go there.

How are we making it difficult?  And why arent' Cheryl and Mark here defending themselves?  Why do they put the burden on you kids to do that?

 

They have a right to take advantage of the opportunities Whitmore has to offer.

They have a right to be duly informed as to what really goes on inside there.

I might be wrong, but don't families have arguments....don't brothers and sisters fight...?

Yes, but they're usually not instructed by their "parents" to beat on other kids.

And, I do know the comments on this website are only 3 kids and a couple of parents of kids that caused alot of problems at Whitmore.

I'd be raising hell too if I was promised therapy and an education for my child and was then provided with NEITHER.

 

But, the world is full of bad seeds. Whitmore just seemed to get more than its fair share!"

Whitmore IS the bad seed!!!

I believe in God, only I spell it Nature.
--Frank Lloyd Wright, American architect

[Anonymous]

The investigating authorties may want to talk to the so called adopted daughters.Sexual crimes cross many boundaries.

[Anonymous]

Which "so called adopted daughters" should the authorities talk to anon?

[Anonymous]

The daughters being scapegoated to have negleted the animals in Canda.

Why playing dumb? You know better than I about the daughters.

[Anonymous]

OK. The daughters Mark Sudweeks tried to blame for the horse abuse up in Canada.  That would be his and Cheryl's daughters, Shayla and Trinity. The other is Darlene, the foster child that they lie and say they adopted.

I guess one would have to ask these three if they have been abused mentally, emotionally,  physically or sexually by Mark and Cheryl Sudweeks, only they would know.

And yes, abuse does cross all boundaries.

[Anonymous]

I understand Mark and Cheryl Sudweeks have two minorn children of their own living at the Whitmore Academy among all this mess.

One is a 17 year old girl and the other is an 11-12 year old boy.

Understand they get this fine quality education, get to be involved in these "group sessions" and view all the beatings, eat this nutritious food, and wathch their mother behave in public like a raving maniac, and get to watch their father acting out too.

Wonder why all those social workers wandering around during this investigation didn't take notice of this?

Maybe these two kids need to be sent off to a REAL BOARDING SCHOOL instead of living in this mess.

[Anonymous]

The stories of abuse and neglect that the former students of Whitmore are telling their parents just make a person heartsick.

[Anonymous]

If the Sudweeks show not respect for thier own kids, how can Whitmore parents expect them to repect the students?

[007burd]

What is the deal with you  rich people?  You have way too much money.  Is this what you do in order to raise your kids, send them to a $40,000.00 a year boarding school because your don't want to deal with them or have them interupt your country club parties and political fundraisers?  Why don't you become less self involved and greedy and spend more time with your children and raise them to be good, productive people in society.  It is interesting how many wealthy people have dysfunctional lives and families.  Most of you people are hooked on drugs and have no morals.    Hardworking middle class people like myself who do all they can to be productive and become educated will pay the bill for your children's incarceration.  Get control of your children, and do it now.  The average American is getting sick of your problems and complaning.   Money really can't buy happiness.

[Anonymous]

Why thanks double O 7
Think you solved it all!
Have all those rich folks just give their money away---problem's solved!
What's your bank account number. Can just send all that nasty ole money to YOU!