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Were you more disappointed that Bill Clinton cheated on his wife or were you more disappointed in his taste in women?

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cedu

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CEDU's website 1996
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I watched Pulp Fiction last night and I couldn't get over how this scene was so analogous to our RMA predicament.

This clip only has the intro. Go rent it and watch the whole scene through.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vV4IBRic ... re=related

Opening scene: Marcellus and Butch fist Fighting on the street and by sheer bad luck end up in a Pawn shop while fighting/wrestling.

Upon a student's arrival to RMA he's clearly engaged in a intense 'fight' with issues in his life and parents (they lied or had you kidnapped to get up there). We as individuals were engaged in our own personal  'fight' that 'spilled' into a strange bizarre location (Bonners Ferry) that we were dumbfounded and uncertain of how we ended up there

Scene 2: Pawn Shop owner points a gun at both of them and tells them to stop fighting.

While being processed on day 1 RMA pointed their cult gun at us and said, "stop being you, Strip and agree to No drugs, no fighting, no sex".

Scene 3: Pawn shop owner ties them to chairs and calls Zed.

After being processed we were essentially mentally and physically tied to RMA's chair of cultish insanity. We sat there bound everyday awaiting the arrival of 'power staff'.

Scene 4: Zed and the gimp arrive.

This reminded me of the dread of being in a propheet with 'power staff' aka  Carmen/Stacy/Caroline etc. Espicially the begining of the propheet. The build up, the anticipation of something horrible.

Scene 5: Zed starts to rape marcellus and Butch escapes

We felt like we were being roughed up and abused every day (raped). The escape scenario we always hoped for but never got. This is what makes this disturbing part of the movie great - the escape/payback.

Scene 6: Butch escapes and once he's about to leave he decides to go back and kill Zed even though Zed is harming Butch's mortal enemy from 20 minutes ago.

Again, the escape payback scenario we always dreamed of. Also, the pity we felt for other students (who we may not have liked) as we watched them get demolished by Caroline.

Scene 7: Butch & Marcellus Kill Zed

The culmination of the payback scenario.

Let's start to get this organized by creating a concise concrete list of crimes committed. Let's keep this post to the facts only. We can post on other threads about our thoughts.  Remember some of these are alleged crimes. We need former students/staff to provide detailed information so that we can eventually have an attorney/investigator review these for their legitamacy. At that point we will submit them to the appropriate D.A. in California & Idaho.

1. Pre - Cedu
Crime: Homicide
Staff: Russ Decker

2. During - Cedu
Crime: Sexual assault on Cedu student. Giving alcohol to minors.
Staff: Caroline

Crime: Providing cigarettes to minors.
Staff: RMA

Crime: Mental / physical abuse. Child endagerment. Concealing criminal information regarding crimes comitted upon and by students. Product misrepresentation, fraud and deceipt (unethical business practices - including charging parents for services/products not rendered).
Staff: CEDU EDUCATION. (Mel Wasserman and all headmasters & family heads).

3. Post - Cedu
Crime:  Drug & sexual relations with former students
Staff:  Caroline Wolf & Randy Eide

so i think the house really needs to slow down

A friendlier RMA specific version....



Raps

Do you often feel exhausted from lengthy group activities, meetings and projects?
Can anyone say "dreading monday raps - all monday morning?"

Does your group publicly humiliate or criticize members?

Does your group use frequent public testimonials, confessions, or sharings that reinforce the group’s mission or agenda?

Do you often find yourself doing more and more things in the group or because of group peer pressure that you would not have done on your own?

Does your group discourage doubts, criticism or ideas that differ from their belief system?

Are doubts viewed as a lack of faith, dedication, commitment or disloyalty?

Have "your thoughts" become "the enemy?"

Do you feel pressured to attend meetings, events, lectures, seminars? And do you feel guilty if you don’t attend?

Dan Earle, Headmasters & "power staff"

Do members of your group feel specially chosen, superior, exclusive, elite?

Do you follow a particular individual or belief system that requires unquestioning obedience and loyalty?

Are your leader’s ideas or belief system considered beyond reproach or sacred?

Does your group have a totalitarian structure: a strict, top-down centralized control?


Isolation / Home visits
Do members seek approval or get permission from group leader(s) for personal life choices?

Workshop/Propheet secrecy

Is your group secretive to outsiders about its inner workings, teachings, activities or beliefs?


18 year old student's with a trust fund

Does the prospect of leaving your group seem scary, difficult?

Does your group criticize, shun, abandon or demean individuals who leave the group?

Do you feel the need to leave in secret?

Have you been told something bad might happen if you leave?
Do you feel pressured to give a portion of your income to the group, or spend money on courses, books or special projects?

Are the group’s financial needs more important than your own economic well-being?

Does your group equate purity and goodness to being in your group, and impurity or evil to those outside your group?

Do you place your group’s mission or agenda above your own goals and ideals?

Do group interests come before your own interest?

Agreements

Does your group have a system of punishments and rewards for behavior?

Voyagers

Do you see less and less of your family and friends who do not belong to your group or who do not subscribe to your group’s belief system?

Is communication within, into and out of your group controlled or censored in any manner?


Cedu doctrine

Does your group/belief system think they have/are the only or highest truth, or have the solution for the world’s problems?


Do you find yourself thinking in a we-they, us-versus-them mind set?

Does your group have its own unique words, cliches, slogans, chants, prayers and doctrinal phrases that reinforce the group viewpoint?


Post Graduation

Do you feel the need to save or convert others to your belief system or ideology?

Do you wonder if you have been in a destructive group?

Do you have difficulty forming new friendships and intimate relationships?

...have low self-esteem, poor self-image or loss of identity?

...have difficulty making simple decisions and choices?

...often feel depressed, anxious and nervous?

...feel isolated, lonely, guilty, cynical?

...feel like you are just now growing up, becoming a mature adult?

...often feel anger and rage towards the group?

...have nightmares or unpleasant dreams?

...find it difficult or impossible to stop mental or other group ritualistic practices?

Am I being I or me right now?......

Holy shit.

I been checking in here for awhile (and never posted).

It just dawned on me...Imagine if you had the sense of something slighlty above teenage mentaliy when you got sent there. You could have very easily conveyed the truth to your parents that they were getting financially raped.(This is however, impossible because we were in a bona fide bonner-ferrian-quasi-rich-kid-cult and no student (that wanted to graduate)with that knowledge would have discussed it).

Oh well... we were just 16 trying to make the best of every day.

Who knew C. Wolfe's double d's would be right in our face on day 1 screaming....."you dirty little druggie - why don't you admit you want to fuck my tits. You are now northern Idaho dereliction - Smoosh tonight or face certain armegedon. You will put up your beatsheat on Saturday night. We will convert you into a subliminal and give you your weekly stipend of $1.50 (that you spend on sourballs like a meth addict) whilst we drain your parents finances like a sheep at slaughter".

All the while Mel Wasserman is visiting his concentration camps - bolstering his emotional growth world domination tour whilst wolfing down RMAzing burgers (made my enslaved teens such as myself) so that his 60inch wastline and multi-million dollar wallet is maintained. What a damnnnnn cult.

Holy shit. What a raquet. I wonder what his fucked up wife is doing now that he is running some jewish afterworld cult.

At least we were sent there with quasi-prison sentences as opposed to the fucking derelict wannabe hippies and self righteous bastard staff members of 88-90 who choose to go there every day and preach that criiiiiiiizzzzzzzapppp.