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The Troubled Teen Industry / WWASPS is a SAVIOR for Many CHildren
« on: April 23, 2005, 04:36:00 PM »
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On 2005-04-22 23:45:00, Anonymous wrote:

"Were any of these facilitators licensed psychologists or therapists. Sounds pretty dangerous and damaging to me...."


No, the only adult was Jeannie who is a former staff member of Cross Creek. Then the rest of the staff were girls who had already been through the training. The trainings were done on the weekend so their wasn't even a therapist at the school.

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The Troubled Teen Industry / WWASPS is a SAVIOR for Many CHildren
« on: April 23, 2005, 01:47:00 AM »
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On 2005-04-22 19:39:00, Nihilanthic wrote:

"Those seminars somehow KEEP sounding like calculated attempts to manipulate, if not brainwash."


We didn't call them "trainings" for nothing. We were being trained how to act and respond in our own little world, somethings you would never say to someone outside for they would never understand what you are talking about.

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The Troubled Teen Industry / WWASPS is a SAVIOR for Many CHildren
« on: April 22, 2005, 03:37:00 PM »
I had to dance in front of everyone for two songs, write and say a five minute speech on being Miss Teen USA, strut to one song and answer questions from everyone about what its like to be Miss Teen USA. This just made me feel like the best person in the world, NOT. You feel good for the moment but that passes and you go back to being who you are or just pretend like you are the greatest person in the world for the rest of the time you are their so you can get out.

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The Troubled Teen Industry / WWASPS is a SAVIOR for Many CHildren
« on: April 22, 2005, 02:59:00 PM »
There was only ten of us in the training and when our song was played we were being kind of cradled off the ground by everyone holding us up with their arms.

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The Troubled Teen Industry / WWASPS is a SAVIOR for Many CHildren
« on: April 22, 2005, 02:56:00 PM »
You coundn't pick anything. In the second family training we got a family song but hell if I remember what it was. I was also Miss Teen USA for the part were we had to dress up and be pretend to be that person. Some of the other people in the training were the Pointer Sisters, Banamarama, mimes, Jonathan Livingston Seagull and others I don't remember.

We had name tags that said what our problem was that Jeannie came up with. Mine was Guess Who's Talking some of the other girls were Double Doubter, Coulda Shoulda Woulda, Stuck in Neutral, Run Run Run Run Away, Doubt and Depressed, dis-connected, Outside-In, and Approve of Me. When we got to a point when Jeannie thought we had overcome our obstacles and were letting go we got to take off our name tag and tear it up.

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The Troubled Teen Industry / WWASPS is a SAVIOR for Many CHildren
« on: April 22, 2005, 01:04:00 AM »
I still have my "contract" that says I am a Beautiful, Intelligent, Powerful Young Woman who is Carefree.

All of the "staff" signed the back and it says "The Rose" which is the song that Jeannie (our head lady) picked out for me. Everyone had them hanging on their bulletin boards at SRA, like this piece of cardboard changed our life forever and we would be the greatest people in the world because we knew who we were. As soon as you get out no one gives a shit what it says or who you are.

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Spring Ridge Academy 97-99
SUWS 99
Dancing Moon Ranch 99-00[ This Message was edited by: plomly22 on 2005-04-21 22:05 ]

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EdCons and referring organizations and agencies / Ed-Consultants
« on: March 15, 2005, 10:19:00 PM »
My first educational consultant who referred by parents to SRA was

Yvonne Perier Jones, Ph.D.
Educational Referral Services
(206)323-1838
Specialties: School, Special needs
The address I have for her is old.
I did meet her once while I was at SRA when we had a formal dinner with a bunch of ed-cons.

The second ed-consult who referred my parents to DMR was

Linda Shaffer
(208)263-8394

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The Troubled Teen Industry / Spring Ridge Academy - Any feedback?
« on: March 02, 2005, 10:03:00 PM »
I went to SRA for 15 months 97'-99'. I would not recommend sending your daughter there. I will grant you that everyone has a different experience and not all were bad. Things have changed since I was there like they now have 64 girls they was only 46 when I was there and there was 5 phases now there is only four.

The program expects perfection which is really hard and very stressful. They have a high staff turnover, I had three different therapists while I was there. They have "seminars" or as we called them trainings which a lot of people will tell you are not good experiences. I my opinion it is a form of brainwashing.

I was diagnosed with depression for most of my life but it was after going to SRA was I diagnosed with Borderline Personality Disorder because I started cutting on myself and pulling out my hair while I was there.

If you have any questions please feel free to ask and I will try to answer to the best of my knowledge.

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The Troubled Teen Industry / Copper Canyon Academy , AZ & The Academy at Sisters, OR??
« on: February 18, 2005, 11:54:00 PM »
One other thing I would like to add is never bring up money. My parent's did with me. I thought what the hell you are the ones who sent me away and didn't want me at home. Don't blame me for using all of your money. I figured my parents spent over $160,000 in 2 and 1/2 years. Which in my opinion was a waste of 95 - 100% of it.

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The Troubled Teen Industry / Copper Canyon Academy , AZ & The Academy at Sisters, OR??
« on: February 18, 2005, 09:56:00 PM »
If you have never been sent to one yourself you have no idea what it is like. I will agree that some people have good experiences. The feeling of rejection by your parents is horrible. I had a feeling before I went there that I wasn't going to be able to get out. My mom claims that I never asked which is a crock of crap. The first letter I wrote, she wrote back saying that my therapist said I was doing better this therapist saw me maybe once and left a week later.

One of the hardest parts about these programs is trying to be perfect. You have to make your bed perfectly, clean spotlessly, get all A's and B's in school, and be happy. The first work hour I got was for not taking a shower everyday, which how I was suppose to know that rule was beyond me when it wasn't in the rule book and no one ever told me. This is in no way like the real world. It is total shock to go from being with the same people everyday who talk, act, and dress the same to the outside world where people don't understand what you have been through.

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The Troubled Teen Industry / Copper Canyon Academy , AZ & The Academy at Sisters, OR??
« on: February 17, 2005, 05:08:00 PM »
I was put in therapy when I was 9. A good therapist that your daughter will connect with can be a long process and you have to keep trying. The first person I found who I could talk to was a psychiatrist in the first psych hospital I went to when I was 15. I still do not trust my parents because they sent me away.

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The Troubled Teen Industry / Copper Canyon Academy , AZ & The Academy at Sisters, OR??
« on: February 17, 2005, 03:41:00 AM »
I was not a student at Copper Canyon, but I do know the director of counseling Linda Cathcart and therapist Sequoia Smith. They were both former therapists at Spring Ridge Academy when I was there in 97' and 98'. The programs are almost exactly the same. I was never a patient of either of them, thankfully. The majority of the girls who had Sequoia did not like him. He didn't seem to know what he was doing. I had a big problem with the staff turn over, I had three different therapists while at SRA. I think its hard to start over with a new therapist every few months while you are trying to move up to higher phases. The rules about letters, phone calls, and visits are very strict and I do not recommend a place where they are restricted at all.

I do not believe the "seminars" as they are called are helpful in any way and would never want anyone to have to go through them.

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / Straight vs. Prison, In-patient psych treatment, Army, etc.
« on: January 30, 2005, 11:56:00 PM »
I preffered in-patient psych treatment over any of the programs I went to. The people actually treated you with respect and didn't try to make you think a certain way.

I went to three different psych hospitals and the third one I went to I didn't care for beacuse there was only one other person there the first time I was there which was kind of wierd, but I got to watch TV all day long. I met some cool people in psych.

The staff at the psychs were way nicer and not out to get you in trouble when you messed up on one little thing. The therapist were nicer to and listened to your problems not made more for you.

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CEDU / Brown Schools and derivatives / clones / Just wondering...
« on: January 19, 2005, 11:48:00 PM »
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On 2005-01-18 23:28:00, Anonymous wrote:

"I don't remember much, but one memorable thing was something about a sinking boat that we were all supposed to be on, and there was only one lifeboat.  We had to choose one or two of us from the group who gets to live, and the rest in the story would die.  Two at a time we would go around the circle of people, and tell each person our vote on whether we think they should live or die."


I remember this exercise from the trainings I went through. I started laughing when our instructor told us what we were suppose to do. I think she and the staff were taken by supprise because no one had ever laughed at this before. I don't think anyone in my training cried. When I staffed this training everyone was crying. I thought what the hell is going on here, people are taking this way to seriously. I was almost voted into the lifeboat and I would have if I had voted for myself! Like I would ever vote for myself.

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / Late Night Ramblings (support please)
« on: January 18, 2005, 03:24:00 AM »
I know how you feel.

Even though I get along with my parents we don't see eye to eye on them sending me away. My mom credits it with saving my life although I tried to kill myself while I was at DMR and a month before my 18 B-Day. I will never forgive them for sending me away or most of the people that worked there.  

I have become way more self consience and am afraid to have friends. The only friend I have is a girl that I was at DMR with who lives here in Seattle. I hate telling people about my past and wish I could forget the two and a half years I spent in these places. I have tried hard and forgotten for a couple of minutes. Although I do have over a hundred daily reminders in all of the scars from cutting on myself, which I might add I didn't start doing until I was at SRA. And about a month after I started doing that I started pulling out my hair which I still do to this day.

The main thing I have realized that has become of my going to these places is how strong I have become and if I really want something I know I can get it without anyone elses help.

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