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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / Still searching...
« on: July 25, 2006, 01:49:36 AM »
I'm still searching for people who were in Straight Springfield the same time I was (March 1990 - June 1991)...  If you were, and especially if you remember me, hit me up...  I don't wish to dwell on the past, but rather find out how you're doing now...  As for me, I have good days and bad days like most everybody else.

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / Re: The $tr8 life...
« on: July 25, 2006, 01:36:56 AM »
Quote from: ""starry-eyed pirate""
I didn't go to high school.  Not really.  I went to $tr8 instead.  I was pulled out of the middle of 10th grade and basically didn't see the light of day for about a year an' a half or so!  I copped-out 4 times, including once off 'a' 1st phase on my 64th day, but they always hunted me down and brought me back.

No charges, no representation. just imprisonment and mental distress.

Never was able to be friends with my old friends again.  By the time I got out of $tr8 for good they were all gone and I was way too fucked up anyway.  

I remember how angry I was, about day 15 or so, as I sat on front row fully comprehending the betrayal by my parents, and my country.  The rage that had no where to go.  The loneliness that overwhelmed me as I began to realize that no-one was going to help me.  

America, land of the law, not of the spirit.


Hmm, sounds a lot like my story...

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / NATIONAL-LEVEL TV SHOW LOOKING FOR SURVIVORS
« on: December 04, 2004, 12:34:00 PM »
I believe Pietra was being sarcastic...

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / NATIONAL-LEVEL TV SHOW LOOKING FOR SURVIVORS
« on: December 03, 2004, 11:26:00 PM »
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On 2004-12-03 16:28:00, Anonymous wrote:

"Notice how suddenly all the "people" who were claiming that this was bogus have SHUT UP?? :lol: "


*sigh*  If only...

To the last Anon who posted:

While your advice regarding statutes of limitations is shrewd, it applies only to people who are interested in filing lawsuits in states that have such statutes.

From having been on and off these forums for several years, and having communicated with some of the people who post here outside of these forums, it is my belief that fewer people here are interested in pursuing legal action regarding things that happened in the past as they are in educating the public to prevent similar travesties from happening in the present and future...  The latter of which is Wes's aim in coordinating efforts for a possible upcoming talk show episode.

You say that you "have checked several records and find NO evidence there is any show whatsoever."  Have you contacted Wes?  Have you gotten the package of materials from the show that other, non-anonymous and thus more credible posters to this and similar threads have reported getting?

I am reluctant to bash you because, as I stated before, some of your advice could be well applied by individuals in certain circumstances.  But I don't understand why you are basically bashing Wes, and Ray Bradbury, two people whose efforts against Straight, its predecessors, and its spawn, are well-documented and well-intentioned.

Why wouldn't someone affiliated with a talk show contact someone like Wes Fager, whose website speaks for itself, when trying to recruit panelists?  To me that's just common sense.  What you are doing, well, that's just nonsense.

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / NATIONAL-LEVEL TV SHOW LOOKING FOR SURVIVORS
« on: December 03, 2004, 07:08:00 PM »
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    BE VERY CAREFUL WHAT YOU GIVE TO WESLEY FAGER.  



    THE INFORMATION YOU GIVE MAY BE USED AGAINST YOU IN WAYS THAT YOU CAN'T KNOW AND WAYS THAT HE WILL NOT DIVULGE TO YOU.
    After all Wes Fager has done to expose Straight, its predecessors, and its spawn, how dare anyone claim that Wes could be using any information given to him against them?  Obviously you have never looked at this man's extensive work, nor have you had the pleasure of dealing with him personally.
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    FOR EXAMPLE, THE INFORMATION THAT SEVERAL SURVIVORS WERE GOING TO GIVE AT THE MORGAN, COLLIN, AND GILBERT WAS FORTUNATELY HELD BACK WHEN IT WAS DISCOVERED THAT MCG NEVER HAD ANY INTENTION OF TAKING THE CASE.
    I know nothing about this particular case, but I do have some knowledge of the legal industry and its processes.  Is it not possible that the firm in question decided, either before or more likely after reviewing information obtained in discovery, not to proceed with the case?
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    Why isn't there a DIRECT contact for a "national level" show?!
    Humm, maybe they don't want to deal with the likes of the riffraff that post here.
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    My story aint all that spectacular ...like I say I saw more shit happen to people around me I did enough to keep from getting sat on hehe...
    Ditto...  Hell, I'd love to take advantage of the free travel and hotel accomodations, but that ought to go to someone with a better tale to tell than I.  
    :wave:

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / Poll about Alcoholics Anonymous
« on: December 03, 2004, 06:26:00 PM »
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On 2004-11-24 08:13:00, artman11111 wrote:

"The solution lies in my not attending these forums here at fornits.I have out grown it and it serves no useful purpose in my life today."
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"i have grown bored of you and of this useless banter at fornits"

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On 2004-11-29 11:07:00, artman11111 wrote:

"I do read some of the goings on here but i no longre have a commment to add.

You people are sick,and i refuse to be a part of this or any other discussion here at fornits."

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On 2004-12-01 09:36:00, artman11111 wrote:

"I dont believe its in mine or anyone's best interest to attend here,though i must say,some people here are great for a laugh,and though I often dont care for what i read here,i keep comin to fornits. Maybe its me who is sick !"

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On 2004-12-01 09:41:00, artman11111 wrote:

"I dont think this place is in my best interest."

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On 2004-12-02 11:55:00, artman11111 wrote:

"I think i am done here... This serves no purpose..."

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On 2004-12-03 11:59:00, artman11111 wrote:

"i wont be coming here anymore... theres nothing to discuss."


I don't know you, Art, and I hope you won't take me using your quotes as a personal attack, but rather as an illustration of how AA's "keep coming back" philosophy can be detrimental.  You must realize that many, if not most, of the people who post here do not share your opinion of AA.  This seems to frustrate you, and yet you "keep coming back" despite yourself.  It is a vicious cycle...  Reminiscient of the alcoholic who keeps returning to drink even though he knows it is bad for him...  And of the 12-stepper who keeps returning to the program even though it is no longer doing him any good...

If you don't like something, stay away from it.  If a 12-step program helps you stay away from that something, great.  But know that a 12-step program could very well be that something that you need to stay away from...  Especially if your feelings about that program are anything like your feelings about Fornits.

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Thayer Learning Center / 14 Year old Dies at THAYER LEARNING CENTER
« on: December 03, 2004, 05:04:00 PM »
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On 2004-12-02 16:05:00, Timoclea wrote:

"Why is it that the only people we get who got sent to a program that praise the programs are people who have been out for less than five years or work for a program as staff?"


That is easy: it takes a while for the brainwashing to wear off.

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The Troubled Teen Industry / Write to Dr. Phil!!
« on: December 03, 2004, 04:59:00 PM »
What is "Dr." Phil a "Dr." of, anyway?  All I have been able to figure is that he has a PhD in BS...

Oh, and his message boards don't support the 1st Amendment...

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The Troubled Teen Industry / Write to Dr. Phil!!
« on: November 24, 2004, 07:24:00 PM »
Okay, I just posted the following to the appropriate message board on Dr. Phil's web site (http://boards.drphil.com/WebX?14@@.f068cb3); hopefully it will make it past their moderator.  I got a lot of my references from the message forums here at Fornits -- thanks.

I feel for Terri and David, but I cannot believe that Dr. Phil suggested that their troubled teenage daughter be sent AWAY when the root cause of her problems is an ATTACHMENT disorder (Reactive Attachment Disorder (RAD)) -- and to Provo Canyon School, no less! Provo Canyon has a documented history of child abuse and is currently being petitioned to cease operations. (There is a very good article on page nine of the PDF document located at http://students.washington.edu/~ruckus/ ... 0_web.pdf; the petition can be found at http://www.beyondbusiness.net/closepcs.htm. Testimonials from some Provo Canyon alumni can be viewed by clicking on the link "The Undersigned" on the petition page.)
While Terri and David's daughter is probably too old, and possibly too dangerous, for many of the at-home treatment strategies suggested on the RAD website at http://www.radkid.org/getting_help.html (strong sitting, snuggle time, etc.), I believe that she is a good candidate for Eye Movement Desensitization and Reprocessing therapy (EMDR). I strongly suggest that individual and family counseling, EMDR, craniosacral therapy (CST), and all other outpatient treatment strategies be attempted before committing such a child to any inpatient institution, boot camp, specialty school, or the like... And Provo Canyon should be avoided at all costs!

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The Troubled Teen Industry / Petition to close the abusive Provo Canyon School is gaining
« on: November 24, 2004, 07:23:00 PM »
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On 2004-11-24 13:18:00, Anonymous wrote:
Dr. Phil is sending a child to Provo Canyon today.


This is very bad.  I just posted the following to the appropriate message board on Dr. Phil's web site (http://boards.drphil.com/WebX?14@@.f068cb3); hopefully it will make it past their moderator.  Thanks to the posters to this thread who provided me with many of my references.

I feel for Terri and David, but I cannot believe that Dr. Phil suggested that their troubled teenage daughter be sent AWAY when the root cause of her problems is an ATTACHMENT disorder (Reactive Attachment Disorder (RAD)) -- and to Provo Canyon School, no less! Provo Canyon has a documented history of child abuse and is currently being petitioned to cease operations. (There is a very good article on page nine of the PDF document located at http://students.washington.edu/~ruckus/ ... 0_web.pdf; the petition can be found at http://www.beyondbusiness.net/closepcs.htm. Testimonials from some Provo Canyon alumni can be viewed by clicking on the link "The Undersigned" on the petition page.)
While Terri and David's daughter is probably too old, and possibly too dangerous, for many of the at-home treatment strategies suggested on the RAD website at http://www.radkid.org/getting_help.html (strong sitting, snuggle time, etc.), I believe that she is a good candidate for Eye Movement Desensitization and Reprocessing therapy (EMDR). I strongly suggest that individual and family counseling, EMDR, craniosacral therapy (CST), and all other outpatient treatment strategies be attempted before committing such a child to any inpatient institution, boot camp, specialty school, or the like... And Provo Canyon should be avoided at all costs!

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The Troubled Teen Industry / Write to Dr. Phil!!
« on: November 24, 2004, 06:49:00 PM »
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On 2004-11-24 15:37:00, Nihilanthic wrote:
So, why is Dr. dumbass here sending her AWAY to fix an ATTACHMENT disorder?


I'm wondering the same thing, Nihilanthic.  I perused the "What to Do" section of http://www.radkid.org/ and found information about this:

"EMDR, an acronym for ?eye movement desensitization and reprocessing,? is a clinical treatment that has only recently been found to be of help to some children with reactive attachment disorder."

EMDR sounds like a much more viable -- and safer -- alternative for this troubled child than Provo Canyon!

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The Troubled Teen Industry / Write to Dr. Phil!!
« on: November 24, 2004, 05:41:00 PM »
I found a web site about RAD (Reactive Attachment Disorder): http://www.radkid.org/

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The Troubled Teen Industry / Sex
« on: November 24, 2004, 04:54:00 PM »
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On 2004-11-24 12:38:00, Anonymous wrote:
Let me get this right.  You told him sex was okay as long as he used a condom but when he followed your guidance you sent him to a Mexican boot camp?  So what if your husband freaked out?  What are you a doormat?  Seems like you and your husband have some serious communication issues but your son should not be the scapegoat.

Settle down, Dr. Phil.

Number one, we don't know all the particulars of this woman's situation.  She could be a non- or partial- custodial parent.  Most, if not all, of these  boot camps/specialty schools/treatment programs  require the consent of only one custodial parent; that consent is difficult to reverse.  I'd wager that the fact that this boot camp is located outside of the U.S. further complicates matters.

Number two, she wants to communicate with her husband with the help of these forums:
 
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On 2004-11-24 09:39:00, Anonymous wrote:
Im compiling statements from here, to present to my husband.I hope he reconsiders this.


This lady has had something unfortunate and seemingly unnecessary happen to her son, and she is taking steps to fix it.  Hindsight is always 20/20, and yes, perhaps she and her husband could have communicated better before her son got sent away.  What's done is done, though, and it doesn't make sense to berate her when she is here looking for help.

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The Troubled Teen Industry / "SUCCESS" STORIES
« on: November 23, 2004, 02:47:00 PM »
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On 2004-11-23 07:23:00, Anonymous wrote:

"What isn't a money making industry?"


Fornits Home for Wayward Web Fora

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / Poll about Alcoholics Anonymous
« on: November 23, 2004, 02:45:00 PM »
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On 2004-11-23 10:48:00, froderik13 wrote:

"I heard that AA can be a great place to pick up hot chicks...any truth to that?"


Nah, froderik, most hot chicks I know go to bars...   :razz:

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