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The Troubled Teen Industry / hi erica's mom
« on: November 13, 2007, 08:30:46 PM »
saw you browsing the forum.


HI!

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Web forum hosting / New Sue Emoticon
« on: November 13, 2007, 01:23:36 AM »
please put this emoticon on the boards.. I'd like it to be named :sue:
 as well

http://forums.offtopic.com/images/smilies/bukkake.gif [/img]

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Hyde Schools / Did Sumner Hawley have sexual relations with students?
« on: November 05, 2007, 08:34:36 AM »
You vote..

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The Troubled Teen Industry / Non profit advice
« on: November 04, 2007, 11:13:59 PM »
I'm considering setting up a non-profit for giving kids, of all backgrounds, advice on how to get away from abusive parents, facilities, programmes, and psych hospitals.

I'd like to know how to fund an org that focuses on the following:

Emancipation from parents
Suing parents, programs, shrinks, and other arsewarts.

anyone ever set up a nonprofit? I haven't and wouldn't mind some pointers.

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Web forum hosting / Final Solution for Admins
« on: October 30, 2007, 07:33:16 AM »
It was a hard fought campaign. Many lives were lost.. terrible havoc was wreaked..

but today fornits is free from Tryanny!

Today I struck a blow to the heart of all admins!

As of now the only admin remain is Ginger.

psy, deborah, froderik, dynamic korea, jolly rogers, web diva

had the admin final solution administered.

Go in peace my children.. no more will we hear the bleats of the liars known as the who or the ccm cunt as we no longer have admins.

And someone deadmin my ass.. I'm getting tempted to change the whos user title.. Again..
lols!

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The Troubled Teen Industry / New Better Manifesto
« on: October 25, 2007, 01:53:41 AM »
Who are we to attack those who believe in the experiences they went through? A young man or woman who shows up on fornits and claims to have had a good experience is quickly labeled the following:

A) Brainwashed
B) Troll
C) Karen In Dallas in Disguise

With these accusations they are visciously attacked with porn, called all sorts of names, and called traitors.

I've done it before.. to my own shame.

You see I no longer see it important to classify programs as either good or bad. Abuse happens in programs, schools, churches, homes, regulated facilites, public bathrooms, water parks, and just about every single place imaginable. To me the greater issue lies beyond abusive programmes that are privately owned or even good programmes that are privately owned.

The distinction no longer matters to me and to those who feel they had a good experience I encourage you to discuss them.

What matters to me is that I come from a country where dogs have more rights than kids. It amused me to watch the GAO hearing and hear the bit about dogs having more rights and protection than kids. I actually told my group once that hunting dogs have more rights than children in the State of Alabama. I'll be sure to send the congressmen who scored some votes off my material a bill.

It bothers me that a kid can be sent away for treatment without the benifits of due process. It bothers the hell out of me that kids are sent away with no chance to appeal. No chance to explain their case with the help of a representative.

I believe some states, New York if I'm not mistaken, actually has a court for pets.

And we live in a country where kids can be shipped off without a chance at a fair hearing, appeals, and access to advocates?

So that is my thing and I encourage those who feel they have had a positive program experience to share them. Your insight is just as valuable as anyone elses.

Do be prepared for the scat porn and other moronic crap though. Just the nature of the beast.

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Best part of it is the one person instigating all of this is laughing their ass off at everyone.

To the Troll:

Best ever to date! Two thumbs up!

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The Troubled Teen Industry / Congrats CCM Girl
« on: October 25, 2007, 12:05:01 AM »
I may not like the way you act sometimes or the way you treat others but I have to respect the fact that you refuse to be broken. I remember when I first showed up you were all about the protestin' and such. Yet the very minute you willingly spoke out about Heritage you were savagely attacked.

Yeah.. I was one of the people who went after you. I did my best to shut you down. Despite that you are slinging the shit as good as you are getting.

So there you go..

My apologies for posting some nasty shit about you way back when.

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The Troubled Teen Industry / Brainwashing
« on: October 21, 2007, 05:37:36 AM »
Sorry folks no longer is this an acceptable excuse for you being a programmie.

Just admit it.. you are a sadistic asshole with a seriously defective personality that needs to be rectified with a bullet to the back of your head.

The only real question..

Hollow points or armored piercing rounds?

Some damn thick programmie heads out there...

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Open Free for All / Storming Joe Aropio at it again!
« on: October 13, 2007, 08:04:15 AM »
http://http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/10/09/health/main3347931.shtml?source=RSSattr=Health_3347931

On one hand who the hell wants TB but on the other damn.. talk about excessive...

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The Troubled Teen Industry / Holding parents accountable
« on: October 08, 2007, 11:48:44 PM »
I'm finding it all very difficult to believe that all these parents are "brain-washed". Some of the discussions going on in the over the gw thread remind me of a story my grandfather told me about Germany after WW2. It goes like this:

Gramps: Pass me anothe beer.

Me: Ok but tell me more about the war.

Gramps: Wasn't any Nazis left in the whole damn country after we kicked their asses.

Me: Why did the Allies kill them all?

Gramps: Hell no.. they were all either "tricked" by Adolph and his gang or just pretending to be a Nazi to get by.

Me: Why did they fool Hitler to begin with?

Gramps: Sons a bitches didn't have a lick of sense in them and wanted a bully boy to give them a tune to dance to.



Moral of the story here, illustrated by my crotchety gramps, is parents on this forum are making some very quick claims to being brain-washed. I think we are slinging this word around like candy and in the process letting some of these people off the hook. It is for this reason I've devised the "Shithead Parent Manifesto".

SHITHEAD Parent Manifesto:

Parents I will only be nice to you to help win your child free of whatever program you incarcerated them in.

Parents I will only continue to be nice if you refrain from sending your child to a second programme and apologize to your child for his or her wrongful incarceration.

Parents I will only be nice if you take it upon yourself to address your total lack of parenting skills which more than likely resulted in your child's struggles in the first place.

Parents I will no longer fall for this flimsy excuse of you claiming brain-washing. Brain-washing is an unwilling process that involves a great deal more than just a few phone calls and seminars. In all reality what you experienced is your own sadism, gullibility, or ignorance.

Some of you parents have taken it upon yourselves to break your kids free of the programmes in a very short span of time and have admitted your mistakes. My hat goes off to you and you will retain my good will.

The rest of you parent let it be known that from this day forward I now fully support any legislation that calls for the charging of parents for child abuse for sending your child to an abusive programme.

In conclusion:

I no longer support the notion that brain-washing occurs so freely.

More often than not the kids affected by these programs are due to the result of sadism, on the parts of their parents, and or ignorance. I've seen to many cases where parents actively wanted their children to be punished. I remember to many occasions where it seemed like the parents enjoyed hearing about their kid's punishments.

Yes these programmes prey on ignorance, but it is every single parent's responsibility to protect their children. Failure to properly investigate these placements are the sole responsibility of the parent. Blame can never be placed on a unscruplious ed con when it is the parent's sole responsibility for their children. Many parents have acknowledged this fact and my hat goes off to them for their honesty.

Others have not..

They suck.

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Ladies and gentlemen I bring to you news of something that really shouldn't be a surprise. Our esteemed Congressperson George Miller is going to be holding hearings regarding abuse in private programmes. This committee will be hearing witnesses to shed light on the abuses found in private facilities. I've just learned, via an anonymous source, survivors will not be testifying in front of this committee.

What this implies my fellow rabble rousers is that your story isn't important enough to George Miller. The hardships, pain, agony, and sheer hell of your program experience just doesn't much to Mr. George Miller. At this up and coming hearing in front of Congressman Miller's committee your voices will not be heard. I find the irony of the situation staggering.

Here we have a man presenting legislation to increase the funding, fifty million dollars worth, to ensure licensing of programmes. No where in this legislation does it call for the abolition of unlicensed programmes. No where in this legislation does it even attempt to define what exactly consists of a programme. In this legislation you will find no attempts made to safe guard the rights of children either. At best this legislation, in my opinion, is a hollow shell.

The same sort of hollow shell that was first presented to congress in the Nixon administration. It was back then the funding for SEED was approved by congress. Funding for a programme based on synonan of all places. Remember synonan at all anyone? I seem to recall that Synonan at best can be described as a deranged cult. With the collapse of the SEED we saw the spawning of Straight.

Straight the same government approved, funded, and supported programme that incarcerated how many young men and women? It gets even better. Straight was fully licensed in the state of Florida. From what I understand it was fully licensed in other states. One only needs to think back to the story of Ginger Warbis to know that she was forcefully extradited back to the state of Florida on behalf of Straight after fleeing for her freedom, life, and what was left of her sanity.

This new bill is an empty vessel. It in no way furthers our cause. Here we are fighting to keep children safe. This bill allows those programmes under license to skip along their merry way. That treasured license will no doubt be cold comfort for the parents, friends, and family of the young men and women who die at the hands of those licensed programmes. Perhaps the funerals of the falled children will have a flag draped over their coffin in the pattern of the programme's license? I worked for two different programmes for nearly four years.

Both of these programmes were, and are, licensed by government. Three Springs of Alabama has not only been shown to be abusive by myself, but other staff and young men and women have stepped forward with the same sad claims. Three Springs of Wayne County Georgia suffered a tragic death due to dehydration and yet this programme was allowed to continue on. Eckerds, specifically Camp E-Kel-Etu of Silver Springs Florida, killed a young boy named Michael Wiltky(spelling?). Both of these companies are licensed and there are so many more programmes that are licensed who are abusive or have killed young men or women.

SAFE of Orlando
Benchmark
Peninsula Village
Youth Care
Aspen Educational Group
Elan
Hyde
Carlbrook


Remember though none of your stories are important enough to be heard by Congressmen George Miller and his little committee. Survivors from the above organizations, all licensed of course, and places like WWASP will recieve no voice. Your examples will be unheard by our representatives.

The examples of young men and women killed, abused, injured, and left mentally scarred are so endless my very existence is in danger of imploding to even try to recount all the occurances. Because we are being ignored, more importantly the young men and women who have survived these places are being ignored, I'm hoping some or all of you will join with me to try and stop this legislation. I see no benifits stemming from Congressman George Miller's legislation. I can only see more blood, tears, and dead children coming away from all of this.

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The Troubled Teen Industry / My Program.. The Anti-Program
« on: September 27, 2007, 10:43:14 PM »
I've been learning to Scuba dive here in Cambodia. It honestly has been the most exhilarating part of my vacation to date. I was riding back on the dive boat yesterday after my underwater navigation dive for my Advanced Open Water qualification and I couldn't help but think how awesome it would have been to have my old Three Springs group along.

I propose the Anti-program...

This program is centered around a selection of activities designed to be fun and engaging. I've always known the best results from any group of kids comes when you teach them something fun.

Meh.. to bad.. would have been good fun..

I imagine JW, KH, TJ, and maybe RI would have been up on the roof of the dive boat arsing around. Good times though and no harm no foul.. just don't spill any of my beer.

Would have been cool though if their parents could have come along to participate. Their first dive together could have been a memorable experience. The after dive hot dog roast on the beach could have been a great time for the families to chill out and just be families.

Sad deal.. the programmes just don't teach anything really of use, nor do they get  past the punitive aspects. Tragic that these families aren't given the chance to chill out together and to do some cool stuff like Scuba diving.

Naptime for me.. I can't go diving again today.. damn hurricane or something like that forced a cancellation.

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The Troubled Teen Industry / St. Percy's Home For Wayward Wizards....
« on: September 27, 2007, 10:53:42 AM »
As per request of ginger:



..........................................................
 St. Percy's Home for Wayward Wizards
Chapter 1

    * -The only path for a wizard is in the service of the five ideals.-
      Dr. Miles Sinclair


I never thought my life would be contained in brown paper bag. Yet, sitting in front of me on the table is a brown paper bag that contains the only effects that I was allowed to bring with me. Going from sleeping blissfully in my bed to the conference room of a residential treatment center has a wildly disconcerting quality all of its own. The bare stark walls only accentuate the inhospitable faces of the supervisors and counselors who sit in the room with me. Funny how they had been all smiles and lollipops up until my parents had left the room. So much for living a quiet existence beneath the notice of the Department of Magical Affairs.

I'm a rogue wizard. I have hid my magical abilities from my parents and the Department of Magical Affairs for most of my life. The Department of Magical Affairs tracks all use of magic on North America with a diligence that can best be described as extremely thorough. My sort of magic is a bit different than the rest the wizards hiding out in North America. Some people would call me a sorcerer, which is a natural wizard of sorts that doesn't rely on a wand. Such a thought isn't exactly illegal, but its definitely frowned upon by conventional wizard society. I rejected the norms of conventional wizard society much to my parent's dismay. To them worst yet is my other affliction.

Not only am I a natural wizard, but I'm a firm believer in the use of blood magic. Nothing so tacky as stealing the blood of another, but using my own blood to enhance the power of my spell. Had my parents found me casting a simple levitation spell or something equally boring they might have not cared. More than likely they would have rejoiced and dragged me off to Rodeo Drive for a shopping expedition to get me kitted out for one of the lessor schools of magic. Rather than finding me working my magic of a levitation spell they found both of my arms covered in my own blood and every single piece of my furniture in my room levitating. This probably explains my abrupt departure the floo network in not so gentle care of the escorts.

Looking over at the tall dark looking escort I can see he is watching me. His task is nearly complete as he is waiting for my parent's to finish signing the paperwork. Until then he waits quietly with his wand drawn and ready. Not being one to let him escape without at least a parting shot I say, “Never thought I'd be drug away by a fellow wizard.â€

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The Troubled Teen Industry / Local Fornits Chapters
« on: September 27, 2007, 09:07:34 AM »
I'm feeling slightly inspired by the grassroots thread. In a rogue action all of my own, and to annoy ginger, I'm going to promote the new local fornits chapters.

The purpose of these local chapters is for us to put into action many of the  concepts that we discuss on these forums. Mind you I strongly recommend the actions put into play are legal ones.

First Each Chapter will be required to present a flobbergizen. A flobbergizen is a short document requesting recognition from the friendly admin staff here at fornits.

This document, the flobbergizen, will need to be brief and to the point. Please refrain from going all magna carta on my pale white ass. If you do attempt to turn in a dead Russian author's version of a flobbergizen I'll personally fly out to where you live and leave a bag of burning dog crap on your porch.

Here is a sample flobbrgizen:

To Fornits Admin Staff:

We, the pimps and hoes of Newark, humbly request recognition of our local chapter of Fornits. In return for presenting you with an annual tribute we acknowledge that our protection from the scourge of TSW will be shield us from bags of flamming dog turds. Also we acknowledge that said recognition will earn our local chapter a mention on the fornits home page.

Our annual dues are:

0 dollars..

Our ability to locally harrass and impede the unlawful incarceration of children:

unlimited..

Signed:

Snoop Diddly Dingus


...


discuss above proposed idea minus the weak attempt at humor.

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