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Former student sheds light on Heritage Boys Academy | light, academy, park - News - The News Herald
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Former student sheds light on Heritage Boys Academy
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Attorneys say investigation was misled
June 13, 2010 07:10:00 AM
S. BRADY CALHOUN / News Herald Writer

HILAND PARK — As a student, Jeremy Crunk hated it at Heritage Boys Academy.

But looking back, the 22-year-old U.S. Army sergeant believes the year he spent at the school changed his life for the better.

“I was just a mad kid,” Crunk said last week, a few days after law enforcement shut down the facility amid abuse allegations.

He was angry, Crunk said, because his father was away from home a lot because of work and other home life issues. He never got into any criminal trouble, but he often ran away from home. At 16, he still was considered a freshman in high school and was home schooled. If his mother had not placed him in Heritage, Crunk said he probably would have a criminal record.

“That place set me up for success,” Crunk said.

The Bay County Sheriff’s Office and Florida’s Department of Children and Families removed 17 boys from the facility earlier this month, and investigators arrested 58-year-old Clayton C. “Buddy” Maynard, 20-year-old Russell Maynard and 40-year-old Robert Unger, charging each with one count of aggravated child abuse and five counts of child abuse. A fourth man, 22-year-old Marcus Kurbatoff, was arrested and charged with resisting an officer as authorities were arresting Maynard and Unger.

Investigators said the boys at Heritage have been beaten with sticks until they bled and that there was scarring and permanent marks on some of them. Authorities added that some students are believed to have been held down and choked. The school’s website, which has been offline since sometime after the arrests, promised that students will be treated with military-like discipline and will learn military drill instructions and formations along with Christian teaching.

Local attorney Waylon Graham is representing Russell Maynard; Jim Appleman represents Clayton Maynard. Both attorneys pointed out that the academy takes in the worst juvenile offenders, youths who are on their way to criminal careers and lives behind bars.

The school is “a last-ditch effort to save them,” Graham said. “Their motives were very pure. They wanted to try and help these kids.”

Appleman said the criminal investigation was misled by one student, who school officials describe as very troubled.

He and other students “basically lied and turned their backs on the people who were trying to help them the most,” Appleman added. “We’re going to prove that in a trial.”

Corporal punishment was supervised, documented and academy officials got blanket permission from each parent to use the punishment while their child was at the school, Graham said.

Records at the Sheriff’s Office showed the agency had investigated issues at the facility in the past. DCF officials said they also had looked into the academy several times but found no evidence of wrongdoing until the arrests June 4.

 

Student’s account

Crunk’s experience with Heritage began in 2004, when he awoke in his bed one morning to find himself surrounded by Heritage students and faculty. They had handcuffs and told him that he was coming with them. Crunk said he went quietly but added that if he had not been faced with overwhelming odds, he probably would have run.

Adults and other students watch the new students at the facility very closely to prevent escape attempts, Crunk said. He believes the reports of students being held down happened when children were attempting to run away.

“A lot of kids don’t want to be there,” Crunk said. “A lot of them would just fight.”

Students were given corporal punishment, Crunk said. It happened only when they refused to do chores, were disrespectful or attempted to run away.

“Pretty much you had to be not trying,” he added.

The adults explained that under Florida law they could give the students a total of five swats. The adults usually administered corporal punishment several hours after the incident, and they were always in control, Crunk said. The students were told to put on a pair of sweatpants and were then punished.

He described it as a “half-swing” that was “pretty firm.” It was hard enough to cause bruising, Crunk said, but the only time he saw anyone bleed was when a student put his hand between the stick and his backside. Crunk said there was little to do at the academy and described it repeatedly as being “locked down.”

He threw himself into his schoolwork, which was self-directed and Christian-based. As a 16-year-old freshman, he entered the academy a year behind, but by the time he left he was ahead. He graduated high school and entered college before his 18th birthday. He has two years of college and is still doing as much as he can while serving in the Army. Crunk said he hopes to one day work for the FBI as a hostage negotiator.

After a year in the facility, Crunk convinced his mother to come and get him. He was tired of being there and of not being able to talk to girls, he said.

“I was tired of being cooped up,” he added.


 
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 jayhawk

10:17 AM on June 13, 2010
 
Hmmm, I am really curious as to how this one turns out. Everything seemed so cut-and-dried (in media reports and BCSO communiques) after the arrests. Now one defendant has a local darling of the legal community (Graham) serving in his defense, and the other is defended by the former state's attorney (Appleman).

There might be more here than what the sheriff believed when the arrests were made. If so, it would seem these two would have a defamation case against someone. If that turns out to be true I'm sure Graham and Appleman will have no trouble filing the lawsuits.
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zeldo1

11:10 AM on June 13, 2010
 
Well Jayhawk, isn't it funny that this kid is confirming all of the facts the Sheriff's Office has released. They show up at his house with handcuffs, force him to leave, beat him until he has bruises, and he said he saw bleeding from the bruising.

I don't see a whole lot of defamation when everyone seems to have the same story. Waylon and Jim will try to turn this on the kids, and their pasts, as opposed to what the case is really all about.
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tedsnyder

5:30 PM on June 13, 2010
 
Hey zeldo1, you need to read that article again. You have mis quoted and mis represented what that young man said. First, please note that he was praising the school.
Then note that everything he said took place was legal and nothing in his statements suggest a Florida law was broken. You obviously have never dealt with rebellious people if you think using numbers to overwhelm someone is bad. That my friend is common sense.
 

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calicocreek

8:14 AM on June 15, 2010

Sounds like it was a successful program for Jeremy Crunk. HOWEVER, there are those that appear to have been abused at this facility. I am glad to hear that there was some positive stories coming from the boys home. BUT, I still do not condone the abuse of ANY child, troubled or not.
I don't see any defamation here either. The facts will be presented eventually.
When the child who left the facility was known to be missing, staff should have immediately reported the youth as missing to law enforcement and we wouldn't be where we are right now. Instead, it appears they sent a posse of other youth to bring the boy back. Just doesn't sound right.
Something smells bad about this place.
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grandmother55

10:32 PM on June 16, 2010

I hope they speak with the boys who spent time prior to this happening. Hopefully they will step forth. Sad to say though a few were brainwashed into believing getting beaten is acceptable. I hope they are investigating the families that live on that compound. What about all of those children. I know people that live there. Ive always said it is a cult. If it walks like a duck and quacks its a duck. Cult,
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sunnydel

10:20 PM on June 18, 2010
One thing to keep in mind might be that the boys that have never told the truth to anyone in their lives, and now that they are, the adults and some of you out there are not trusting what they are telling us.
I was born and raised here in the south and I got my fair share of whippings. But there is a BIG difference between that and what the home was allegedly doing to these trouble youth. Discipline in one thing and beating a child into submission is another!
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(June 22) -- The Connecticut man who tried self-amputation after his arm got stuck in his boiler says he contemplated suicide during the two days he was trapped in his basement and attempted to say goodbye to his loved ones by writing a note in his own splattered blood.

In an interview broadcast today, Jonathan Metz, 31, described the terror and intense pain he felt, and said he considered using the blades he cut his arm with to end his life.

"About half way through this ordeal, you know, maybe that's the best way to get out of this terrible situation," Metz recalled thinking, during an interview broadcast today on NBC's "Today" show. "And that's really when some of the more important things in my life came to the forefront -- my family and friends.

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"I guess I came to the conclusion that it would be selfish -- that I had a lot to live for," said Metz, who is engaged.

Metz, who lost his arm in the accident earlier this month, took "Today" viewers on a tour of his basement.

After returning home from his financial services job at The Travelers on June 7, Metz went into the basement of his West Hartford home to clean the soot in the boiler, a job he was doing before his parents came to visit and a task he said should have taken 10 minutes.

He reached into the boiler to retrieve a tool he had dropped, and his left arm got stuck between the shoulder and elbow. He tried to pull his arm out, but the funnel-like fins of the boiler tightened their grasp.

'If I could maintain a cool head from the get-go, it's possible I could have gotten my arm out, but my knee-jerk reaction was yank, yank, yank," he told NBC.

He said panic isn't an adequate word to describe what he was feeling when he realized he was stuck. He saw dripping blood and his arm start to swell.

"Terror, I think, maybe would be a better word because I could see what was happening," he said.

With his arm stuck, Metz said, he could neither sit down nor stand up, leaving him in a position that prevented him from being able to rest and think clearly. "If I had been able to sit down and think things through, it certainly would have made the thought process more coherent."

He started to scream, and kept at it for "a combined 48 hours," he recalled. But, he noted that he had winterized a small basement window with caulk, making it airtight and soundproof. His cries for help grew more desperate.

"My first pleas for help were, 'I'm stuck. Somebody come in and come down and help me,'" he said. "When it became clear the arm was dying, that's when the pleas turned to, 'I'm dying down here. Somebody please help me.'''

He was confident that somebody would realize he was missing and that help would arrive. But after 12 hours, he could smell his rotting flesh, infection was taking over, and he decided the arm was dead.

He wondered "What would MacGyver do?" and looked around his basement, where he likes to make furniture, to see what could help him. But the saws and a drill were all out of reach. "That's the thought process -- something down here has to be able to save me," he said.

Metz said he spent six hours psyching himself up to cut his arm with blades from his nearby power tools.

"It started with prayer and thinking about the people that I'd be leaving behind, thinking about my dog upstairs who had also at that point gone three days without water," he said. "I thought about my parents visiting the next week and how traumatic it would be for them to come into the house and find this scene."

He made a tourniquet from his shirt, and though his arm went numb, he felt great pain.

"I would say about 90 percent of the cut was surprisingly pain-free," he said. "The pain was in having to look at it and see it and see what I was doing to myself.

"It really wasn't until I got to kind of the underside of the arm where the nerves are really concentrated where the pain became so ... I can't even describe the pain."

He said he was in shock and realized that, given how much blood he had lost, he couldn't finish the job.

"I was so convinced that I was going to die that I began actually, in the blood splattered on the boiler, trying to write a note to my family and my fiancee," he said.

While Metz spoke in a matter-of-fact manner, he got emotional when he described being unable to free himself.

Drifting in and out of consciousness, he recalled, he used his shoe to drink some dirty boiler water, which he said gave him a mental boost. Then he got back to work.

"After lapping some of that up I grabbed the blade and resumed cutting and got through the bone and got through most of the flesh and that's when I ran into a little bit of a problem, which was the bundle of nerves running under the underside of my arm.

"I tried cutting a little bit more, hit another nerve and again lightning bolt-like pain and that's when I just said, 'I can't do it. I can't finish this cut,'" Metz said, sounding close to tears.

Alone for the next 18 hours, he considered suicide. But by June 9, his friend went looking for him, and called authorities when Metz didn't answer the door. Crews freed him with heavy equipment and the amputation was completed.

"Before I knew it, we were zooming down the interstate on the way to the hospital," Metz said, and he looked up to see an EMT.

"I remember him looking down at me and saying 'Jon, it's going to be OK. We're bringing you to the hospital,'" he recalled. "I will never forget that. He was like an angel kind of looking down at me. It was really awesome."

Doctors said Metz's decision saved his life.

In the "Today" show interview, Metz went down to the basement, where the boiler had been replaced.

"There was a sense of relief," Metz said of the first time he went back there "seeing the boiler that had cost me my arm was totally, completely gone."

Doctors hope to fit Metz with a prosthetic arm by the end of the month. For now, he says he's learned a lot about himself.

"I don't know that I'd ever really admit it or believe it, but I did learn that I have more strength than I guess I would have thought."

Well here you are my dear "troll" your very own Thread. Now everyone can witness how your all over me. Which is kind of "icky" because your definitely not my type.
Here is your post that you were threadjacking on Oscars thread, out of respect for the thread I put it here, please do continue Felice. Everytime you threadjack I will post it here so folks can see how much of a selfish jerk you can be.
 

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Is Martydannobennikrugliclaire-bott credible?
I would like to remind this thread of the Moral Policing of a Avatars Cartoon Croch that happened.

:on phone: hold on I.R.A. is pissed.....shamrock removal not good enough............


Felice wrote:
Look Mr. Assistant to the Gott-Bott low life piece of Waste Management.
You will never be half a Gottlieb and that aint sayin MUCH.
Untill you shut your fuckin abusive trap of a mind I am on you like white on rice....got that?
Have fun. I will pursue you all I like MOTHERFUCKER!!!!!!!! :poison:
( if you weren't a short chubby ugly 45 yr.old troll who is very unstable, maybe I would "get it" but I don't take you seriously, sorry)

Quote from: "Whooter"

Wow, Just the tip of the iceberg?

According to a draft report commissioned by the U.S. Department of Education, in compliance with the 2002 "No Child Left Behind" act signed into law by President Bush, between 6 percent and 10 percent of public school children across the country have been sexually abused or harassed by school employees and teachers.

Extrapolating data from the latter, she estimated roughly 290,000 students experienced some sort of physical sexual abuse by a school employee from a single decade—1991-2000. That compares with about five decades of cases of abusive priests.
Such figures led her to contend "the physical sexual abuse of students in schools is likely more than 100 times the abuse by priests."

Some of the most recent cases of school sexual abuse include the following:

•  In 2002, a California high school teacher ran off to Las Vegas with one of her 15-year-old students;
•  The same year, a Louisiana teacher was accused of having an affair with a 14-year-old student;
•  In the Bronx, one teacher was charged with the statutory rape of a 16-year-old former student;
•  In March, a 20-year-old Anderson, Ind. choir aide was charged with allegedly raping a 16-year-old female student—the two had a consensual relationship for three months before the girl asked to break it off;
•  A week earlier, an Indianapolis Public Schools substitute was caught having sex with a 15-year-old student in a vacant classroom;
•  A Washington state teacher was convicted of 10 counts of sexually exploiting minors by persuading them to pose nude for him—he then uploaded some of the images to a Web site;
•  Also in Washington, state officials say 159 coaches of girls sports have been fired or reprimanded over the last decade for sexual misconduct;
•  An investigation found more than 60 instances in the last four years of Texas high school and middle school coaches losing jobs as a result of allegations of sexual misconduct.

Link

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Thanks good info....

Danny

http://www.netaddiction.com/

Internet Addictions break up marriages and strain friendships.Internet chat rooms cause social disorders in teens and adults.Online Affairs

"The Center for Online Addiction offers hope and valuable resources to those seeking treatment for Internet addiction. Internet addiction is a type of compulsive disorder and as an organization, we are specifically dedicated to helping people who suffer from this new form of addictive behavior."

Founded in 1995, the Center for Internet Addiction Recovery has been devoted to helping those who suffer from Internet addiction. The Internet has impacted the world and provided many benefits to its users. At the same time the Internet has had negative ramifications. Some people are preoccupied with using the Internet, are unable to control their use, and are jeopardizing employment and relationships. The concept of "Internet addiction" has been proposed as an explanation for this uncontrollable, damaging use of this technology. Symptoms are compared to the criteria used to diagnose other addictions and research has characterized Internet addiction as an impulse control disorder most comparable to pathological gambling because of overlapping criteria.

A Growing Epidemic

Studies on Internet addiction originated in the US by Dr. Kimberly Young, who presented the first research on Internet addiction in 1996 at the American Psychological Association’s annual conference held in Toronto in her paper “Internet Addiction: The Emergence of a New Disorder”. Since then, studies have documented Internet addiction in a growing number of countries such as Italy, Pakistan, Iran, Germany, and the Czech Republic. Reports also indicate that Internet addiction has become a serious public health concern in China, Korea, and Taiwan. Treatment centers have emerged across the US and abroad.

It is difficult to estimate how widespread the problem is. A nationwide study conducted by a team from Stanford University’s School of Medicine had estimated that nearly one in eight Americans suffer from at least one sign of problematic Internet use.

Internet addiction is now considered a serious disorder being considered for inclusion in the upcoming revision of the DSM-V.

Signs of Internet Addiction

Dr. Kimberly Young has likened Internet addiction to addictive syndromes similar to impulse-control disorders on the

Axis I Scale of the DSM.

The entire scale: Multi-axial system
Wiki: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diagnostic ... _Disorders
The DSM-IV organizes each psychiatric diagnosis into five levels (axes) relating to different aspects of disorder or disability:
    * Axis I: Clinical disorders, including major mental disorders, and learning disorders
    * Axis II: Personality disorders and mental retardation (although developmental disorders, such as Autism, were coded on Axis II in the previous edition, these disorders are now included on Axis I)
    * Axis III: Acute medical conditions and physical disorders
    * Axis IV: Psychosocial and environmental factors contributing to the disorder
    * Axis V: Global Assessment of Functioning or Children's Global Assessment Scale for children and teens under the age of 18

Common Axis I disorders include depression, anxiety disorders, bipolar disorder, ADHD, autism spectrum disorders, phobias, and schizophrenia .
Common Axis II disorders include personality disorders: paranoid personality disorder, schizoid personality disorder, schizotypal personality disorder, borderline personality disorder, antisocial personality disorder, narcissistic personality disorder, histrionic personality disorder, avoidant personality disorder, dependent personality disorder, obsessive-compulsive personality disorder, and mental retardation.
Common Axis III disorders include brain injuries and other medical/physical disorders which may aggravate existing diseases or present symptoms similar to other disorders.

She developed the Internet Addiction Diagnostic Questionnaire (IADQ) to diagnose the disorder. Meeting five of the following symptoms were considered necessary to be diagnosed.

1. Do you feel preoccupied with the Internet (think about previous online activity or anticipate next online session)?

Ursus hmmmmm........

2. Do you feel the need to use the Internet with increasing amounts of time in order to achieve satisfaction?

Ursus do you get satisfied.

3. Have you repeatedly made unsuccessful efforts to control, cut back, or stop Internet use?

I don't think so. Anne you must have because for a couple of months when I first arrived you were not here sweetie.

4. Do you feel restless, moody, depressed, or irritable when attempting to cut down or stop Internet use?

I have noticed, I thought it was because I have not had a drink in awhile.

5. Do you stay online longer than originally intended?

Anne did you ask your boss if it was OK.

6. Have you jeopardized or risked the loss of significant relationship, job, educational or career opportunity because of the Internet?

Ursus would your wife approve or husband or whatever you are, do they tolerate your longevity on the Web.

7. Have you lied to family members, therapist, or others to conceal the extent of involvement with the Internet?

Who wants to get honest about this. (NO need for all you single and lonely people to comment)

8. Do you use the Internet as a way of escaping from problems or of relieving a dysphoric mood (e.g., feelings of helplessness, guilt, anxiety, depression)?

Now you can comment all you single lonely people and folks like Anne who lie about her weekends to impress people.

Other Symptoms Include:

• Failed attempts to control behavior

Boy I have to admit this one has got me written all over it.

• Heightened sense of euphoria while involved in computer and Internet activities

Ursus this is where you come in.......I often see it when you finally think you have whooter creamed.

• Neglecting friends and family

Well now who wants to admit this.....Felice.

• Neglecting sleep to stay online

Che, first step is to admit it.

• Being dishonest with others

Sharon over and over.....

• Feeling guilty, ashamed, anxious, or depressed as a result of online behavior

Art this is you but you will not admit it....also my friend Matty boy.
 

• Physical changes such as weight gain or loss, backaches, headaches, carpal tunnel syndrome

Wait a minute I can use that as a excuse, "carpal tunnel syndrome". Ginger I found another syndrome and this one is going to stick. (pun what....)

• Withdrawing from other pleasurable activities

Pile what say you.......

:shamrock:  :shamrock:

Hate to see this. I wish we could eradicate this drug.

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Danny

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I am sorry you folks could not handle this thread I have moved it elsewhere.
Thanks for trying though.

P.S.
If you must continue with the correspondence please do. I didn't know so many folks had something to say.
Che and Pile thanks very much for your contributions, I hope to see more of you on other threads I publish. I
believe we really have something here.  

Danny