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Nihilanthic:
--- Quote ---On 2005-07-19 08:46:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Actually, I believe they are hell raisers. They're out of control. If you can't see that then I think you're not being realistic. I do believe that many kids can receive help in other ways. Doc's, other programs, therepy, etc. However, when your kid threatens to hit you on numerous occasions, stays out all night whenever they want, and brags about getting fuc*** up, then these are serious problems. You can't believe that untreated they'll all be dead or in jail within 5 years. Even if the camp didn't help them in the long run with they're problems, what they're getting is the least punishment for what they've done to those that love them. That's what they get. If someone wouldn't kick the sh#t out of them, then let them hike. There should be consequences for their actions shouldn't there be?"
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--- Quote ---Lexie used to be a good girl who rode horses and excelled in school, but when she was 11, Lexie was molested by someone she trusted. She has since suffered from depression, become verbally abusive toward her parents, given up horseback riding and started failing in school. Lexie's parents sent her to SageWalk hoping she'll learn to deal with the secret that still haunts her.
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Am I the only one who thinks youre a fucking moron here? BTW, punishment itself is pointless. It doesnt fix any problems if they actually have any, and causes more resentment than it discourages further behavior problems.
But hey, if you wanna be trapped in the dark ages and put punishment before therapy and call an abused child a 'hellraiser', whatever, youre free to be a moron in the US of A!
P.S. THEYRE BEING TEENAGERS YOU FLIPPIN IDIOT. Before all this shit started up in the 1970s, parents had to learn to DEAL WITH IT. Why cant you? Theyre going to act the way theyre going to act. Punishment doesnt do anything but make them resent you. And how the fuck do you know they'll be "Dead or in jail in 5 years", Nostradumbass?
The mystery of the beginning of all things is insoluble by us, and I for one must be content to remain an agnostic.
--Charles Robert Darwin, English naturalist
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Anonymous:
No, you are not the only one who thinks this way Niles. This is the root of the problem, and why the industry exists in the first place. Too many parents think their kid is 'broken' and needs to be fixed.
Anonymous:
AND are ignorant/suckered enough into thinking somehow camping [wilderness programs] or being locked up in private jail [wwasp, provo] will somehow help. It is so insane, it's hard to imagine it goes on everyday all day long. This is a daily nightmare for thousands of teens unfortunately. :cry: :sad:
Anonymous:
"Am I the only one who thinks youre a fucking moron here?" says Nihilanthic.
I am not the same anon to which this mental giant is directing his analysis--- but sadly, I imagine that there are other posters who probably agree with him in sayinf that this poster is "a fucking moron".
I don't.
In fact, I don't think that the anon's interpretation is off base at all, although I don't know the merits of the particular program featured on the television program.
But to argue that it's just being a teenager to threaten your parents, to disrespect your own body by random sexual encounters, to disappear overnight as a minor, well, no, maybe that is Nililanthic's idea of a normal adolescence but it is not mine.
I am a whole lot more comfortable thinking that the average parent who faces this kind of self-destructive behavior will be able to decide whether or not the child involved needs to be in a setting away from home than I am in thinking that a poster like Nihilanthic can assure the family of the right approach.
Especially after hearing his interpretation of what it means to be a normal adolescent.
Anonymous:
You are wrong. If you had been through it, you'd know. Obviously you haven't been. You are speaking in theory. I am speaking from my own experience. You are not convincing anyone here, maybe you are trying to convince yourself? Do you have a child in a program?
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