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Anonymous:
And your experience is everybody's else's, right?
No, my friend, life doesn't work out so simply as that.
I am perfectly willing to believe that you had a bad time of it, don't presume that this means you get to define all programs or the experience of all kids.
Antigen:
--- Quote ---On 2005-07-19 12:38:00, Anonymous wrote:
Antigen, I see from your posts that you had a very traumatic experience yourself with incarceration in a program. Please be open-minded enough to realize that this is your experience in a particular setting. Other places and other people's stories can be and I believe, are very very different.
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Here are some of the circumstances that made my experience traumatic:
First and foremost, betrayal by my parents. They lied to me, repeatedly, to get me into the program and to a cop to try to have me returned to the program.
They told the parents to disregard any complaints as manipulative lies, then proceeded to do all the things they told them we'd lie about.
They kept us isolated from the outside world; no breaks from the constant stress, no reality checks.
They used every kind of humiliation and emotional abuse imaginable in order to break kids down, turn them against each other and, ultimately, turn them from inmates to guards.
These are just some of the things I keep hearing these kids complain about today. Show me a program that doesn't do those things.
It is one of the most beautiful compensations of life, that no man can sincerely try to help another without helping himself.
--Ralph Waldo Emerson
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Anonymous:
The bottom line is you can't cure adolescence by keeping kids under lock and key until they turn 18 and can no longer be forced into an institutionalized-style program.
Troubled parents, not teens, are what drives this industry.
:flame:
Anonymous:
--- Quote ---On 2005-07-19 17:12:00, Antigen wrote:
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On 2005-07-19 12:38:00, Anonymous wrote:
Antigen, I see from your posts that you had a very traumatic experience yourself with incarceration in a program. Please be open-minded enough to realize that this is your experience in a particular setting. Other places and other people's stories can be and I believe, are very very different.
--- End quote ---
Here are some of the circumstances that made my experience traumatic:
First and foremost, betrayal by my parents. They lied to me, repeatedly, to get me into the program and to a cop to try to have me returned to the program.
They told the parents to disregard any complaints as manipulative lies, then proceeded to do all the things they told them we'd lie about.
They kept us isolated from the outside world; no breaks from the constant stress, no reality checks.
They used every kind of humiliation and emotional abuse imaginable in order to break kids down, turn them against each other and, ultimately, turn them from inmates to guards.
These are just some of the things I keep hearing these kids complain about today. Show me a program that doesn't do those things.
It is one of the most beautiful compensations of life, that no man can sincerely try to help another without helping himself.
--Ralph Waldo Emerson
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Yep, nothing has changed. Teens guarding other teens in exchange for more favorable treatment from THE PROGRAM.
Pretty god-awful way to grow up.
Anonymous:
--- Quote ---On 2005-07-19 17:12:00, Anonymous wrote:
"And your experience is everybody's else's, right?
No, my friend, life doesn't work out so simply as that.
I am perfectly willing to believe that you had a bad time of it, don't presume that this means you get to define all programs or the experience of all kids. "
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I was asking what your interests are in the program? Why are you here?
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