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« Reply #15 on: April 21, 2005, 07:01:00 PM »
Is a mental construction, like language, money, and the government.
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« Reply #16 on: April 21, 2005, 07:22:00 PM »
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On 2005-04-20 19:28:00, RTP2003 wrote:


"The war in Iraq was NOT over WMDs, but you knew that.  You thought it was over oil.  Not true.  Remember a couple of years ago, when the news was reporting about the looting of Mesopotamian artifacts from Iraqi museums?  Well, THAT's the reason for the whole goddamn war---there was an original copy of the Necronomicon in a vault in one of the museums, and George and Rummy wanted it for themselves so they could do some weirdo black magic at the next Bohemian Grove meeting at Mt. Shasta.  Not to worry, though--I was drinking with Cthulhu and Nyarlathotep earlier today, and they assured me that they don't like Georgie or Rummy any more than I do.  By the way, Cthulhu says "Rlygh, mhgytrrhft Shub-N'Gurr'at'H".  





More fun to come,





RTP2003





"I don't practice what I preach 'cause I'm not the kind of man I'm preaching to"








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RTP2003 has his own chapter in the Book of Weird, and it's illustrated, too."


Oh wait would like anybody like me to make tshirts ,like that say something like thewarwasntoveroil.com?? who wants a t-shirt :lol:  :lol:  :lol: "


only if it's signed by rtp
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« Reply #17 on: April 21, 2005, 08:26:00 PM »
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""Deliver me from the hands of aliens whose mouths speak falsehoods....""


Wow--it really says that.  I'll PM you RTP, I want more info on your cult.
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« Reply #18 on: April 22, 2005, 02:36:00 PM »
The Red Temple Cult that can be spoken of is not the true Red Temple Cult



A Primer on the Spiritual Use of Salvia Divinorum

     This brief primer is intended for those of us who are interested in using
the entheogenic plant Salvia divinorum entheogenically, to "generate (an
awareness of) the Divine within."
     We can conceptualize 'the Divine' in many ways, and the term 'Divine'
evokes a variety of reactions, some positive, and some negative.  We can
easily substitute other terms for the Divine (e.g., ground of being, life
force, the Great Spirit, Tao, Brahman, universal energy, etc.) which will in
no way change or diminish That which is within us; take your pick, make
up a new name for God, or just let Him/Her/It be nameless and let it go at
that.  
     The power of entheogens such as Salvia divinorum lies in their ability
to help us go beyond conceptual thinking about divinity; we can directly
experience the divinity within us, if we want to.
     The Mazatec people of Mexico who use Salvia divinorum as a
medicine and religious sacrament have a word for this something-that-
lives-in-all-of-us-as-us:  the Inyimano, or soul/heart/life.  
     This life within each of us, this universal Inyimano, is our true self,
life itself, God, the Great Spirit, universally and eternally alive.  Salvia
divinorum, when used wisely, can help reacquaint us with the Inyimano.  
Salvia divinorum is a religious sacrament, a tool of the shamans, a
powerful medicine, and must be used carefully, with great respect.  The
Salvia plant spirit teaches and heals when approached humbly with an
open mind and pure heart.

Guidelines on the Wise Use of Salvia Divinorum
     Salvia is a powerful sacrament, and should be used with respect,
reverence, and the purest intent.  Frivolous use of this entheogen can be
extremely unpleasant.  We must be receptive to the truth, and have
sufficient maturity to be able to recognize, and benefit from, the profound
revelations Salvia can catalyze.  Such inner journeys require great
courage, for they take us to territory usually unknown to us.
     Assuming we have already read the important safety guidelines, the
descriptions of effective techniques, as well as much useful--and
fascinating--background information about Salvia divinorum found at
http://www.sagewisdom.org (particularly the Users Guide and the FAQ, found
at this site), we can go right into a few suggestions to help ensure that
our Salvia experiences are as spiritually rewarding as possible.

About Using the Substance Salvia
     The oral, or sublingual methods (holding quid, blackwax extract, or
tincture in the mouth) are preferable, if for no other reason than the
relatively long duration of the experience.  The effects of Salvia taken
sublingually emerge gradually, giving us an opportunity to adapt to shifts
of perspective.  Smoking Salvia tends to produce brief, abrupt effects with
less time to adapt or to incorporate the experience.  Start with small
quantities of sublingual Salvia and gradually increase the amount for
entheogenic breakthrough.  Try ½ gram dried plain leaf quid and work up
from there until desired results are obtained.  It's essential to follow proper
technique to achieve results.  Each physiology is different.  
     Fresh leaves contain more than just salvinorin-A.  Whenever possible,
use fresh leaves, deep green and filled with energy.  There is powerful
magic in fresh leaves.
One fresh leaf, chewed as a quid, is a good way to start, and for some of us
one leaf may be more than enough.  We can add more leaves, one at a
time, until the Salvia energy manifests in us to where we have the vision
of the Inyimano.    
     Growing Salvia divinorum and chewing the fresh leaves is the
approach used by Mazatec shamans, and is considered the most traditional
and respectful way to use it.  Cultivating Salvia helps ensure that it will
always be available for us.  Just as Salvia grows freely and gives us the
sublime gift of our own true nature, we can bestow the gift of the plant
Salvia upon each other.  Salvia gives us so much.  The least we can do to
reciprocate is to tend our Salvia plants and give them away far and wide so
that Salvia will always survive, sharing its life and blessings with us
forever.

About the Mindset
     The mindset that works best for spiritual experience with Salvia is
humility.  
     Our conscience should be clear.  We should strive to be on good terms
with everyone.  Forgiveness heals damaged relationships, even if it can be
only unilateral at first.  We are always in each other's shoes, a fact Salvia
makes abundantly clear.    
     Becoming as unencumbered, undistracted and unburdened as possible
helps with the transformation we undergo during the Salvia experience.  
Salvia can reveal unexpected solutions to our problems, and provide
answers to questions that we didn't think to ask.
If we seek wholeness, the Salvia experience can help us return to
wholeness.
     Keen self-awareness, the capacity to dispassionately experience one's
sensory, emotional and mental activities, is important when a powerful
plant energy such as Salvia is taken in.  Nonattachment to a particular
perspective is essential, as Salvia opens us up and changes our perspective
profoundly.  
     An attitude of gratitude for life itself is of immeasurable benefit.  
     We should be as open-minded and free from preconceptions as
possible. We are looking for firsthand experience of the truth of our being;
second-hand knowledge, no matter how compelling the source, is still
second-hand.  There are, however, second-hand sources that are useful in
developing a mindset ripe for transformation from a culturally-
conditioned-self-awareness to True-Self awareness:  the Upanishads, the
Tao Te Ching, the Sutras, and other inspired written works have a mind-
expanding effect when read
with a receptive mind, getting us to ask, as did the authors, 'Who Am I?'  
     We should be physically comfortable. When we are in a condition of
relaxed receptiveness we will be able to better handle the influx of the
formidable energy Salvia
unleashes.  
     A healthy lifestyle helps provide a foundation of well-being that will
serve us well both during the Salvia experience and afterward as we
continue to mature spiritually. The Salvia experience can inspire us to
make changes in our way of life.
     Our intent is our destiny, with or without entheogens.  What we want,
we will get.  If we want to see the truth and merge with the truth, if we
want to heal and be healed, Salvia can be very helpful.

About the Setting
     Perfect solitude is the best setting.  With cautious use of Salvia,
starting with very small amounts, we can gradually work up to reach the amount
where our journey is optimized.  The setting should be safe, secure, out of
sight and out of earshot, quiet and comfortable.  An hour or two of free
uninterruptible time is enough.  Sit with spine comfortably straight, with
perineum planted solidly on firm chair or cushion, or lie down.  Have a
mat, sofa or bed nearby for supporting the body when it becomes
completely relaxed in the course of a strong Salvia experience.  The
revelations of the deep Salvia experience are at times visceral and
intimate.  We should be in a place where we can be free in every respect,
with no constraints of mind or body.  Baring body as well as soul is
sometimes required as the realization of our true being unfolds.
     Using Salvia outdoors, in a natural setting, is wonderful. The
perception of the Inyimano in every living thing is enhanced with Salvia,
becoming an ecstatic communion with the natural world.
     Having a trusted, mature, nonjudgmental individual to serve as a sitter
is prudent, especially when our response to Salvia is not yet known.  The
sitter should be as unobtrusive as possible so that the journey may unfold
without distraction.
     Being in a quiet, dark, comfortable room with no safety hazards is the
gold standard of settings for entheogenic experiences with Salvia.  We are
in a very special, sensitive, heightened state of being when the plant spirit
of Salvia takes us over.  Think of the entheogenic Salvia journey as a hunt
for the truth:  the truth is subtle and elusive, and will slip away if
approached aggressively, impatiently, demandingly.  Be receptive, and be
ready to recognize the living truth when it appears in its overwhelming,
undeniable power; in this moment, we realize that Salvia really hunts us, if
we are ready to be captured.  Let go and surrender to the Inyimano.
     A good setting helps make us receptive to the subtle, profound lessons
Salvia provides.  Taking care to have an optimal set and setting will make
all the difference when it comes to having a meaningful entheogenic
experience.  As Salvia divinorum facilitates becoming one with the
surroundings, we should be in the environment we would most like to
become one with.

About Ritual
     Ritual involves both mindset and setting.  We all have our own way of
preparing for an encounter with deep reality, e.g., with meditation, prayer,
placement of objects of veneration, burning incense.   Planning Salvia
experiences around auspicious times such as the solstices, equinoxes, and
particular phases of the moon can be beneficial.  Practicing the rituals of
the earth-centered religions may be helpful.  We should do whatever
works for us to invoke a humble, receptive mindset to prepare for the
Salvia experience.

About the Experience
     Words are inadequate to describe the changes that happen to our
awareness during the Salvia experience.  The changes must be
experienced firsthand.  The changes can be profound.  The changes
involve our livingness, our life force.  Total surrender to the changes is the
best approach, letting go and letting the life force take over.  The deep
Salvia experience is one of reunion with nature, with life itself.  We leave
the culturally-conditioned human perspective and identity behind, and take on
the perspective and identity of life.  This is both a humbling and a liberating
experience.

About the Aftermath
     A genuine entheogenic experience, whether brought about by life-
changing event, near-death experience, deep contemplation or entheogenic
substances, will change us in ways we could never imagine.  
     The shift from conditioned identity to universal identity makes
demands on us that we must be prepared to accept.  The entheogenic
breakthrough is wonderful, but it's the follow-through in daily life that
matters, how we are in the moment, in every relationship.  
     The Salvia experience empowers us through the direct experience of
our inmost nature.  This empowerment, to be meaningful and beneficial, is
for us to apply every day, in 'ordinary' consciousness.  The quality of our
being determines the quality of our expressions; our expressions will
change others, just as others' expressions have changed us.
     Even in the midst of a culture enthralled by words, conceptual thinking
and materialism we can help spiritualize it by working *through* words,
concepts, and material technology, even though these things in themselves
are lifeless distractions, not the living truth.  
     After we find the Garden of Eden within, it's up to us to help restore the
Garden of Eden without.  Cultural transformation begins with us.
     The spiritual rebirth facilitated by the Salvia experience gives us an
opportunity to reclaim our innate innocence and purity, our true nature, if
we want it.  To remain in this blessed estate requires dedication to, and
expression of, unconditional love, courage, integrity and honesty:   living
the sacred life.  After we have been truly blessed we bless others by the
way we are.
     The body is indeed the temple of the Holy Spirit.  Practices which
enhance the free flow and balance of life force such as Tai Chi, yoga,
meditation, massage, stretching, deep relaxation and being physically
active helps enhance health, well-being and longevity.  Salvia helps
remind us to be free in the body, enjoying and honoring the divine being.  
     Spiritual cross-training is a good idea.  Learn, and practice, some of the
many spiritual disciplines:  core shamanism, meditation, chanting, Sufi
dancing, yoga, to name but a few.  Salvia is an enormously useful adjunct
to any spiritual discipline.  
     While it is certainly true that 'what comes out of our mouth defiles us,
not what goes into our mouth' our diet should be based on considerations
of sustainability and compassion for all sentient beings; veganism is an
excellent way to survive, whenever possible.  Plant energies are healthy
and, especially in the case of Salvia, heal and nourish the spirit.  
     Salvia facilitates a spiritual awakening within us. The prevailing
culture is a de facto conspiracy intent on keeping us attached to
assumptions, pleasures and possessions, distracting us through mass media
and ubiquitous mental and physical constructs.  This
culture is destroying the biosphere while it separates us from each other
and the natural world.  Entheogenic experiences release us from this
cultural imprisonment, and enable us to experience our true nature.  Help
restore the biosphere and our individual and collective wholeness by
creating a sacred and sustainable culture that follows the green path of life.  
     We see with the eyes of life.  Life recognizes life, and life loves life.  
To be life itself, recognizing and loving life in every form, is freedom and
immortality, our life's work and our perfection.

     Swaying in bliss, raised up in slow serene strength, we enjoy the
flowing freedom, as knowing loving tendrils of the Living One.    


The Future of the Sacrament Salvia Divinorum
     There is much fear and ignorance in our prevailing culture regarding
entheogens, which are viewed by many people as dangerous to the
individual and to society.  By using Salvia and other powerful entheogens
sacramentally, we will show by our example that wise use of entheogens
can help make us better individuals, and thereby help make a better
society.  
     Even though Salvia is currently legal, there is no guarantee this will
always be the case.  Discreet, mature, respectful use of Salvia is the best
way to help keep Salvia legal.
     This is a critical time for Salvia, for us, and for the planet.  The
salvation of the world lies in a widespread, radical change of perspective.
Salvia enlists us to be spiritual revolutionaries, to be the life spirit's
agents of change.  Salvia, and the life spirit vision, is to be shared far and
wide.  We would do well to grow Salvia and share it freely, far and
wide.  Our species will be transformed, one member at a time, by the
grace of the life spirit.
     Just as the indigenous people who first discovered Salvia divinorum
managed to preserve this precious gift of life through centuries of religious
and political oppression, so shall we.
     May the healing revelatory power of Salvia divinorum be always with
us.
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« Reply #19 on: April 22, 2005, 02:59:00 PM »
American state-sponsored corporate capitalism is a RUSE......you can have just as much "security" hitting the road and selling t-shirts and bumperstickers as you can working 9-5 in corporate Amerika.....
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« Reply #20 on: April 22, 2005, 04:28:00 PM »
FINAL TRANSMISSION PENDING

STAY TUNED
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« Reply #21 on: April 22, 2005, 09:54:00 PM »
::bump:: a dee doo dah
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« Reply #22 on: April 26, 2005, 03:31:00 PM »
THIS IS A PRELUDE TO THE FINAL TRNSMISSION>

channeled by a prophet of the Red Temple Cult, unbeknownst to him.....


Praise be to IxTab, Goddess of the Hanged

Praise to Humwawa, Lord of Destruction

"In his house in R'lyeh, dead C'thulhu waits dreaming...."



Current events...Hunter Thompson, and now James Arthur...amanita
James...argh...

I can relate to the dislike of the soundbite...I remember in my
second year of college watching Nixon on TV talking about how "we
are not bombing Cambodia" and the guy next to me saying..."that's I
lie, I just came back from Thailand and I was loading bombs on
planes running missions over Cambodia"...

But this guy is much, much worse...than anything I remember out of
the Nixon administration...these are pretty much the same guys that
even Nixon was disgusted with (note his comments about his visit to
Bohemian Grove)...

At this point, I really don't think there's much "safety" in silence
or non-violence either...if the powers decide to make you a
sacrifice, you're a sacrifice...it doesn't really matter about your
politics...these guys are major power players doing left-hand-path
magick to keep their pyramid scheme running...if they can use
you...they will...stay smart...stay out of the way...

And who are you going to speak truth to?  It's pretty obvious for
anyone who wants to take the time to look, that some pretty powerful
people...Bush laughs at his White House dinners while saying to his
rich friends, "You are my base" (and what does "Al Qaeda"
mean???)...that have done some pretty nasty things...many in the
Senate and the House know it...many in the military and the
intelligence communities know it...who is going to do anything? All
the fat cats are just scurrying around trying to grab as much as
they can before the whole shebang goes up in smoke...for the little
guy...

Yeah...Salvia can help put some perspective on things...hey...it can
be an "end of the world" experience...lol  Vote with your garden...

On the other hand...it just might all have to go anyway...maybe this
is the nature of the Nature...cycles of yin and yang...Ometeotl's
light and dark...

Peace, Nunnatsunega
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« Reply #23 on: April 27, 2005, 07:52:00 PM »
Praise to Ah Pook, the Destroyer, Lord of the Outcome of Battles.....

Praise to Nyarlathothep, Black Goat of the Woods with a Thousand Young.....

I am the Seer of Visions at Midnight of the New Moon.  My weapon's name is Kills From A Distance, and it's Name's name is Suddenly.....
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« Reply #24 on: April 27, 2005, 08:16:00 PM »
There are many different types of aliens.  Many are extraterrestrials, many are time travelers, many are extradimensional beings.  Here are a few:

Grays--genetically engineered race, responsible for cattle mutilations and abductions.  They want genetic material so as to save their race from extinction due to genetic drift (caused by cloning themselves too frequently).  Cloning is their only form of reproduction other than hybrids with other races.  About as efficient as the US Army.  Kind of afraid of us, because we developed nukes and space flight before we unified as a species.


"Celestial" Aliens/Beings of Light/Angelic---these aliens are NOT COOL.  They are fucking dangerous, and have been fucking with humanity since prehistoric times.  They won't wipe us out because of a "prime directive" of their Galactic club, but they will fuck with us plenty.  They are responsible for the development of most Earth religions, which they hatched as a social engineering project to get us away from science and critical thinking, and as a way to divide humanity along artificial lines.  These guys often show up and spout Utopian bullshit, claiming to be from the "Brotherhood of Venus" or some shit like that.  They are NOT to be trusted!!!!  

"Satanic" aliens---these guys look like medieval representations of demons--kind of reptilian, with horns, fangs, and sometimes batlike wings.  Don't be deceived by their appearance however, they are really good guys who just want to party with us.  They like the multitude of drugs and psychoactive plants found on our fair Earth, and like hanging out with humans, whom they find interesting.  They have been slandered throughout history by the "Celestial" aliens, with whom they have been at war for millenia.  They are the ones who "turned on" our ancestors to the use of psychoactive drugs as a means of seeing beyond the jive that the "Celestials" foisted upon humanity.  The legend of Eve and the Serpent are a vague reminescence of this happy occasion.  They are harmless and playful, and a valuable ally against the insidious "Celestial" aliens, who seek to keep us down (literally--they don't want us to go to space) and ignorant so as to subject us to their own whims.  The satanic aliens are the only ones you can trust.  Those metal bands you listened to werer right---Satan is your friend.....
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« Reply #25 on: April 28, 2005, 12:33:00 AM »
S U B M I T O B E Y S U B M I T O B E Y
P A Y A T T E N T I O N D A M N I T Y U
S L E E P D O N T R E S I S T L O V E U
U K Y O U S A M A S H E I S Y O U R G O
D A N D C R E A T O R O F A L L L I F E
E A T O K O N O M I Y A K I T O L I V E
Y O U N E E D I T T O S U R V I V E T O
S U R V I V E R A N M A M U S T M A R R
Y U T S U C H I Y A N A N D A L W A Y S
R E M E M B E R T H E S P A T U L A I S
H O L Y A N D T H E E V I L O N I S N U
T S U B A S A I S A P E R V E R T B O Y
P U R P L E B L U I S H I S T H E O N E
T R U E C O L O R F E E L Y O U R M I N
D B L A N K G E T E P I L E P S Y W A T
C H P O K E M O N F O R E V E R T A W Y
S U B M I T O B E Y S U B M I T O B E Y
P A Y A T T E N T I O N D A M N I T Y U
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« Reply #26 on: April 28, 2005, 01:37:00 PM »
I never met an alien till I moved to Florida...
Here I mave met Cubans, Mexicans, Puerto Ricans, Hatians, Guatamalans.......Damn the aliens are taking over.... ::jawdrop::  ::jawdrop::  ::jawdrop::

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« Reply #27 on: April 28, 2005, 02:41:00 PM »
Welcome to their continent...unless your an indigenous person also.
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« Reply #28 on: April 28, 2005, 02:49:00 PM »
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"Welcome to their continent...unless your an indigenous person also."

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« Reply #29 on: April 28, 2005, 11:34:00 PM »
Africa
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