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The Seed-------Did Art Barker succeed?
Anonymous:
I too was kidnapped & held against my will, but the experience definitely made me stronger rather than permanently traumatized.
I moved out on my own at 16... finished high school... completed an AA degree at a community college... then a BA from a state school three years later.
Worked for five years as a firefighter ... was licensed as a paramedic for ten years ... became a professional skydiver...
Became disabled as a result of a line of duty accident and went back to graduate school to earn an MS degree...
By the time I made it to therapy at 40... Being kidnapped and placed in The Seed at 15 was the least of my traumas ... I had hundreds of images of dead & dying people burned into my brain... Watched close friends die violently... My therapist compared my level of trauma to people that had served several tours of duty in a combat zone.
I highly recommend therapy, if you are still angry about your teenage experience... There are some really effective imagery therapies like TIR, EMDR & other desensitization protocols that will allow you to be happy again.
You have a choice... You can continue to be a victim or you can choose to move on & be happy. Effective help is available...if you seek it out.
Anonymous:
EMDR- the windshield wiper treatment (“The hysterics treating the hysterics”)
Really glad you found the help you needed and that all of the bad stuff got “wiped” away for you.
BTW, hyposensitization is effective in treating issues like phobias, not trauma.
Good luck on that suppression and compartmentalization withstanding in the long term
n' thx 4 sharing.
Anonymous:
I succeeded in life not a program succeeding me. Being brainwashed is not succeeding. How ever if one dug deep enough to find happiness, then they are not happy, as being happy comes natural. Hopefully you are not confused to what happiness really is, because it is inside you not what you make self to be. I do hope all have the happiness they so deserve. As for back to whether Fart Barker succeeded, I would say a big NO. It shows daily how he did not succeed, but how he ruined lives. That to me is far from succeeding, unless his success consists of abuse, a big huge NO in my eyes. Nothing will ever change that, and I personally do not ever want that in my life to change. I would never put success in front of that freak.By the way, I was clean when dragged in there, I ended up witnessing all types of drugs and the crap they talked about during those rap shows were disgusting for any child to have to listen to. Vulgar and evil is all it was. Still praying for the day that idiot leaves this planet. People like that ruin the world. Fear is not what this world needs. Love however is, so NO he was not successful. Except for being a failed human being. Happiness is in you, it never leaves, being happy is easy, smile and be thankful for everything in life.I am way happy I did not get stuck in there for longer then some I have been reading about, and I am HAPPY that at almost 14, I was given the power to run from that dreadful place, and make it on own. I did succeed , a 13 year old ran, and became more powerful then that fool could ever want to be. Can read up yourselves how he did not succeed in articles on the Internet, I have to say I would not know of this fools back ground myself if I did not read it myself. Really makes me laugh when people say he succeeded, when all he did was abuse, steal, cheat, lie, his way through anything. Anyone at all thinking this soul succeeded is so brainwashed, and brainwashed is not being you, so you could not be Happy if you are brainwashed. :peace:
Cyndeelouwho:
Many program abductees go on to have successful lifes after that abuse situation. It is a built in survivor mechanism and that is how I view past program victims, as survivors. I think a lot of folks who were abused by progams like the seed went into careers that were considered dangerous or where they put their own lifes in jeopardy to aid others. I worked in search and rescue and fire fighting for the National Park Service and did rock climbing recreationally. I think any therapist would agree that this could be related to the past trauma as well. We were torn down and made to feel like our life was worth nothing. Only to be rebuilt in the fantastical, manical world of the seedling. These techniques are not uncommon for other Synanon based "rehab" programs. Barker stole his experimental concepts from other programs and disquised it as a drug rehab. Problem I have is by calling it a drug rehab, you would think that some experience might be involved. You would also think that drug use should be a qualifier for the abductees. You don't give power to those who are there through court orders or to a guy with zero experience in anything having to do with rehabilitation. Barker had no qualified background to be doing what he claimed he could. He was a fraud and a master manipulater. He conned his way through life and allowed his ego to come first. Lots of creepy people are like that, Manson, Jim Jones, Ted Bundy.
Just sayin
susan:
--- Quote from: "Cyndeelouwho" ---Many program abductees go on to have successful lifes after that abuse situation. It is a built in survivor mechanism and that is how I view past program victims, as survivors. I think a lot of folks who were abused by progams like the seed went into careers that were considered dangerous or where they put their own lifes in jeopardy to aid others. I worked in search and rescue and fire fighting for the National Park Service and did rock climbing recreationally. I think any therapist would agree that this could be related to the past trauma as well. We were torn down and made to feel like our life was worth nothing. Only to be rebuilt in the fantastical, manical world of the seedling. These techniques are not uncommon for other Synanon based "rehab" programs. Barker stole his experimental concepts from other programs and disquised it as a drug rehab. Problem I have is by calling it a drug rehab, you would think that some experience might be involved. You would also think that drug use should be a qualifier for the abductees. You don't give power to those who are there through court orders or to a guy with zero experience in anything having to do with rehabilitation. Barker had no qualified background to be doing what he claimed he could. He was a fraud and a master manipulater. He conned his way through life and allowed his ego to come first. Lots of creepy people are like that, Manson, Jim Jones, Ted Bundy.
Just sayin
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Agrees, just saying too, kinda scary some of the stuff I have been reading about other places that took off from the seed, scary to know so many lives are out there scared and being abused. Like it does not stop, they made so much money profiting that every time they close one place down another pops right up. ( you really have to be a sick soul to want to make money in this manner)When no one at all is allowed to profit off of souls, then maybe there will be a place that actually helps rather then forces, and forcing someone like myself will just make someone run, that is what I did, and thankful I did. (oh and I went through the motion there for almost a year) I can not see how anyone at these places thinks it helps anyone, if one they are forced to be there, ( I am not talking court ordered) I am talking taken in tricked lied to rolled up in a carpet what ever way they so think they can get away with. Thing is if you do this to someone, trust me they will eventually find a way away from such B.S. I had to take on a job at almost 14 to survive when I should have been in school. That is what they do to souls in those places, they take away from them is all. And please someone tell me how the fudge any drug rehab helps someone that is not even on drugs, but is forced to lie and say they did drugs? Success is when one knows self.Success is when you have the instincts to run from brainwashed addicts that want to profit off of you. I have to say, if it was not for this forum, I would never have read the truth about those idiots that only profited off of young souls who should have been in school not some blimp hanger. Thanks sis for writing , you always did make sense to me. What ever one goes through in life just remember it is your life not someone else. Be good to yourself that is the one soul that you should honor. :peace:
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