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Jimmy Cusick:
Maybe im schizophrenic because I have mixed feelings about the seed and my experience there. For years I hated  Art and many of the staff members. None of that remains as I have somehow forgiven them and have come to look at my upside down experience as an adventure. A drug free adventure into the universe of Arty Barker attempting to be a successful recovering alcoholic. Did he indeed succeed at saving kids? Not according to some of the folks that write on these pages. It is my humble opinion that he saved my life when it needed saving. For that I'm grateful.
A man that walked in Art's path is likely to be controversial, people from all walks of life have both loved and admired him as well as hated and disdained him. Seeing Art chauffered into the Seed in the maroon limo caused some resentments but look at what the guy accomplished------I was a hopeless, helpless kid from a dysfunctional family (I'm writing a book about that) and he forced me to do a 180 and straighten out my life. As they say drugs were only a symptom of underlying problems and the answer to my emotional troubles were found at the seed.
Did Art Barker take from me? Yes. He took my loneliness, my parental hatred and my anger and replaced them with caring staff, real friends and a newly developed atittude towards life.
So my friends , there you have it, my adventure in a nutshell.

Antigen:
Here's my gripe w/ Art &Co. about that. In the end it was a scam, just like any other cult or snake oil sales pitch.

The Seed convinced many that what they had learned there, the Seed way of dealing with things, was a very good preparation for life in the real world. It was not. And the only answer to failure in any respect was always more of the same. So, like the misfortunate morphine addicted housewives of the Victorian era, the worse you feel, the worse things go for you, the more of the "medicine" you take.

I just figured out sometime around the fall of `82 that I had had just about all the help I could stand. I quit taking the cure and everything really did get a lot better.


Black markets will always be with us. But they will recede in importance when our public morality is consistent with our private one.


Eric Schlosser, Reefer Madness
--- End quote ---

Fran:
After reading the last few posts...I have to say I am glad I left the seed for good in early 75. Though I graduated the program in May 73...I was made to feel I had to go to oldtimer meetings(programemed that BIG BROTHER (seed staff members) were going to find me if I didn't go)...finally one day I stopped going. It was a huge relief. I finally took control of my own self.
I now realize why all these years when people have tried to talk me into business type pyramid schemes with all this motivational talk and hype...I ran the other way. The programming and meetings must have sub consciously reminded me of the seed all those years ago.
I despise any one controlling me or having power over me. Whether it is in the work place or social gathering etc.
My brother tried to get me to go to one of his cult religious meetings THE WAY many years ago and I made every excuse I could find never to attend...knowing that I never want to put myself in a position where I do not have control.
Anyone feel the same way?

Anonymous:
Yeah he succeeded, He turned me into a commie and Krushev didn't bury our asses. :smokin:

GregFL:
You know, I am begginning to question what exactly you are smoking in your postings...

 :grin:

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