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The Seed-------Did Art Barker succeed?

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Anonymous:
The seed was horrible, you staff members as you called yourselves should be taken to court along with who ever is still around, libby, ect. I was kidnapped held against  my will, and  guess what I still never did drugs to this day, so screw you idiots for glorifying a place that used unwanted kids as a drop off place, and force them to lie and say they ever did drugs so you could benefit and live off of donations and funds, you all are nothing but criminals who took away my childhood, at 13, i should have stayed in school and been a normal freaking kid, instead i had to run away from you fools, and was frightened of my own family for years to come. Only people you helped was your greedy selves, i may not have known back then why you all had that place, but i sure know from what i saw in that place and from my experience at a mere 13, i am 49 now, thats why you all had it, you got funds and and lived well, in return  the children like myself, got shitty food, and koolaid, screw you  criminals from taking from all of us children back then,  i remember looking right into libbys eyes and telling her i swear i never did drugs, she just laughed, i never to this day have ever done drugs, all you did was go around and hurt so many souls, you scared, slapped, kicked, chopped off my hair, spit in my face, and i could go on, never knew others were out there still thinking about this sick place they called the seed, if the seed was a good place it would still be around, you all suck, and i hope i meet up with all of you that are left,i would like to  look at  libby again and tell her i never did drugs. Criminals is all you all are if i find a way to bring this to court i so hope you are ready to hear my story of the seed. Next time do a back ground on parents, because some kids were really straight and  good honest kids like myself.I saw drugs for the first time in my life in that place, mostly listened to some of you staff members talking about taking that shit yourselves, your not fooling anyone about what you all really stood for, i was there, i was one of your victims that got away, lucky me, but shame on you for destroying so many young souls in that place, shame on you for destroying my family, i come from a family of six, maybe you would like to hear also their story. I sure hope you all fear what my brothers and sisters have feared from their experience too.It sure is not humane to lock up a child, for no reason at all, and  force them to say they did drugs, and then keep them captive and taken out of school, and a much healthier happier environment which was my home,not some dirty filthy blimp hanger, where you had a mixer of regular kids not on drugs, and court ordered parole type , all mixed together, like hitler would do, and thanks for allowing young minors to smoke those cancer sticks, what were you all thinking that it would not come back to haunt you????

Anonymous:
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Anonymous:
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You  certainly sound like you are happy and well adjusted now.

I went through the Pinellas program ... I would compare it to a boot camp that made me stronger.

I did learn the meaning of personal responsibility.

Art was an interesting person ... If you look at the number of people that were affected, it would be hard to say that he was a failure...but it all depends on how you define success.

Cyndeelouwho:
To the last poster:

It seems we were in a completely different program. Or maybe it was circumstance. I was a teenager and not a drug user . It was common that if a family member was in the program, all the family should be. I was another body. I was lied to , being told i was going to visit my sister. I never came home. My clothing was gone through and stolen and i was sent to live with strangers. I know to this day, my parents had no idea where I was or where my siblings were. Seems like that should have been illegal. The staff who controlled the place were substance abusers that were court ordered there in lieu of prison. My mother was told I would die, go to jail or be insane if I didn't go there. All lies. My immediate family produced 6 bodies, ages 9-16. I was a good student, worked and was saving money for college. That ended the day I was admitted. I missed nearly a year of school before my father pulled me out. He was out of town working when we were admitted. I graduated from an adult program to catch up and left home at seventeen. The way things were done there still have an impact on me emotionally and mentally. It was cruel, harmful and a nasty place. The fact that cigerettes were OK to give a minor to this day still baffles me. Wasn't that against the law ?

Art Barker wasn't interesting. He was a hack who lied to the State of Florida, lied about his past (he was a common thief and uneducated) and was a failed comic/actor. His ego got in the way of helping others. Sadly, he believed his own lies. Which was probably how it was so easy to sell all those people he dupped.He amassed a fortune with the government sponsered seed money and is now dying in his palatious condo overlooking the intracoastal waterway with views of the water. I remember his presence at the seed, it was a lot like videos I have seen of people like Jim Jones or Rev. Moon.

Our experience seems quite different.

Just sayin

susan:
Fart Barker is about as interesting as my dog's poop, fact is he reminds me a lot of my dog's poop. Wait my dog's poop is better then he is. He is an ugly lying drunk comedian. I will always hate him. If you think that piece of crap is interesting, you should try reading up on true heroes, like my Dad who did take his  kids out of there as soon as he came home. He is lucky my Dad did not know about his back ground, he would have ripped that idiot a second bum. Thank you Cyndeelouwho for sharing, Love you lot's. :peace:  :rose:

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