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earning the right to walk by yourself
GregFL:
I don't know fran. But I can tell you this, in 1973 my bladder was almost full. I remember going days without bowel movements, as does my sister. You had to ask junior staff to go and they always said no the first couple times you asked, then after being walked over you had to disclose what you were going to do, it was written down and then you were watched by an oldcomer while you went.
The whole thing was highly suspect in my best estimation.
Antigen:
In Straight, 1980, they were beltlooping girls too.
Fran, don't worry about holes in your memory of things. It's true that accute trauma can make you ecclipse whole episodes. But, after a short while, you get used to the bathroom routine. That wouldn't explain it. It's more likely that you don't remember a bunch of things because you were not allowed to talk about it or even reference the responses of the people around you for social proof.
If you don't get affirmation, then it's like it never happened. That's how we're designed to operate. That's why all the rigid rules about communication, outside contact, cliquing (not CLICKING, damn it!) and "getting into your head" (thinking).
No unauthorized interpretation! They could have shortened rules rap and given us much needed sleep by condensing a half dozen or so rules into that brief statement. But it only "works" if you don't understand the process.
I have never seen the slightest scientific proof of the religious theories of heaven and hell, of future life for individuals, or of a personal God.
--Thomas Edison, American inventor
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echothis:
Clear how's this for Clear, In 1970 I don't believe most kids there were escorted to the Jiffy Johns. I wasn't ever!!!!
I don't ever remember anyone ever touching me for any reason.
Ya know, I don't believe Art and Co. had a book they went by. If a situation warrented a change in policy that's the direction they went in. Then if there was pressure to change it they would. There was no master plan. Art found a niche in the Seed programme and he milked it I think for some of his own good. Didn't he obtain a Limo at some point? I don't think he had a junker car when I went there.. Love Love....
GregFL:
It is also suspect that the seed started out one way, then wammo, got a cool million from Dupont, a rabid synanon supporter, became like the synanon for a couple years, then slowly went back to its original roots ( a goofy creepy cult).
I really would like to solve this puzzle....
echothis:
That's what I'm saying Greg. There was no Master Plan. I don't know what the synanon belief has to do with anything Art implemented except maybe he took parts of it he learned somewhere and used it in the Seed programme. As he took parts from AA, and then one day he used the pink toilet and bam it was an intense impact. Then from what I understand later-on they used the toilet seat around the neck because maybe sitting a young person on a pink toilet with their pants down around their ankles was looked at as inappropriate. Like Ten till Ten, that was important to the Attitude Adjustments that needed to occur. Sitting on the wooden benches. Some of those things were still implemented till the end because they weren't inappropriate. :grin:
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