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Anonymous:
OK, no official connection but that's when these "theraputic communities" started popping up. It was also at the beginning of Nixon's War on Drugs. This created an atmosphere of fear and contempt and bore the idea of getting tough on druggies. It seems to me a fairly natural evolution of someone with that mindset. Sick and twisted, but natural for them.
Anonymous:
Not to mention that it gave ol' Art the opportunity to be worshipped and adored the way all cult leaders yearn for.
Stripe:
--- Quote ---On 2004-12-10 07:45:00, GregFL wrote:
"On the other side, Stripe, I don't wish Art or any of them anything but the same peace I seek myself. In fact I would love to talk to any of them
Now that wasn't always true. I think once upon a time I would have danced on Art's grave. Not now, I don't begrudge anyone anything anymore.
"
--- End quote ---
Yeah, you are probably right and some day I'll be there. I'm just not there today. Thanks.
GregFL:
--- Quote ---On 2004-12-10 08:15:00, Anonymous wrote:
"OK, no official connection but that's when these "theraputic communities" started popping up. It was also at the beginning of Nixon's War on Drugs. This created an atmosphere of fear and contempt and bore the idea of getting tough on druggies. It seems to me a fairly natural evolution of someone with that mindset. Sick and twisted, but natural for them."
--- End quote ---
There is no question that the synanon was the springboard for the ENTIRE "teen help industry" that has evolved into what it is today.
Once upon a time I credited Art Barker for creating the first synanon style treatment center for non addicted youths. Then I found out CEDU, which is LINEARLY connected to synanon, predated the Seed by about 2 years. Then there was daytop, Elan, Phoenix house, and a host of synanon rehabs springing up everywhere, from one end of the country to the other. All of them were started by synanites.
Then, out of nowhere, with no obvious connection to the synanon, comes the Seed using similar techniques. The Seed was the first program to "treat" large numbers of non addicted kids with AA and synanon style treatment in warehouses. That is Art's legacy...he is the pioneer of the warehousing of america's youth into thought control cults.
So here we are, 35 years later, and we still can't get a straight answer on how and where Art learned of the synanon style of treatment.
Art (or Shelly), John or Cliff, Libby or Suzie, if you are reading this, let us off the hook. We would love your participation here and have some direct questions that only you guys can answer.
Don't we at least deserve to know our own story?
Anonymous:
I really don't understand what is so confusing here. He saw the others that you mentioned and created his own version. Are you looking for some sort of smoking gun?? Does it have to be LINEARLY connected in order for him to have taken what he saw or read about and make it his own?
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