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Offline GregFL

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« Reply #60 on: October 12, 2004, 01:22:00 PM »
And how do you know this Little Nicky?  So far I would say the silent majority are those that don´t want a damn thing to do with even their memories of the seed.

But in absense of a scientific pole that is just speculation based on the people I have spoke to over the past five years when I have spoken to people that were there.
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« Reply #61 on: October 12, 2004, 01:30:00 PM »
1. After several weeks there, an actual "clearing" of my mind -- not brainwashing -- that allowed me to regain a sense of moral conscience. Part of this was getting away from old habits and destructive music.


4. I remember knowing outsiders thought we were in a cult and being brainwashed. We used to think that was funny, because many of us were having the time of our lives,




9. I remember having my first boyfriend (also a Seedling) who respected me and my new-found purity.
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Hmm...nothing cultish  about that,



14. I'm married to a great guy, have five beautiful children, live in a lovely house, am involved in many community activities, and in my church. I think the Seed really screwed me up, don't you?
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You are probably not that much different than the average person.
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« Reply #62 on: October 12, 2004, 01:47:00 PM »
:roll:  :roll: Average people don't have 2 Master degrees. :tup:
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« Reply #63 on: October 12, 2004, 01:57:00 PM »
I?m writing this as a person who once openly rebelled against the Seed and had to come to terms with my decisions and after much thought I have decided to tip my hat to Art and the Seed and I am forever grateful for that time in my life that changed me so profoundly.

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« Reply #64 on: October 12, 2004, 01:59:00 PM »
I just said that about the 2 masters- I'm not the one that did the actual posting.  I'm a guy.
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« Reply #65 on: October 12, 2004, 09:12:00 PM »
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" :roll:  :roll: Average people don't have 2 Master degrees. :tup: "



Okay then I guess you subscribe to the theory that she is somewhat better than the average person.

Is this due to her degree or her status as a seed graduate?
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« Reply #66 on: October 13, 2004, 07:22:00 AM »
::bigmouth:: You guessed wrong.  I simply stated the average person does not have 2 masters.
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« Reply #67 on: October 13, 2004, 01:27:00 PM »
Actually, you replied to this comment
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You are probably not that much different than the average person.
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Your response ( Average people don't have 2 Master degrees) with smiley faces and thumbs up signs  denotes that you feel she in fact is somehow better or different or that somehow her comments carry more weight.

So, again I ask you, is it because she has two degrees or that she is a happy seed graduate?

Would you give as much weight to a practicing attorney or medical doctor that is a program graduate and also highly critical of the program?(hint...they have posted their opinions here).

I think I already know the answer, but fire away.
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« Reply #68 on: October 13, 2004, 03:21:00 PM »
Oh OK now its "Happy" Seed graduate.  I don't care who posts.  Everyone has the right to.  I learn from everyone.  The Seed was not perfect, I'm certainly not perfect.  I was just very proud of her acomplishments, she sounds very positive and she sound very "happy" and very well adjusted.
I'm sorry that you have a problem with someone that sounds sucessful. In my mind there is no dening that the Seed had many sucess stories.  I believe the harder you tried at it the more you bennifited.  Just as in practice makes perfect.  The more effort you put into something the more you get out of it. Simple stuff to me.
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« Reply #69 on: October 14, 2004, 12:36:00 PM »
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 I believe the harder you tried at it the more you bennifited.  Just as in practice makes perfect.  


You must have forgotten the severe punishments, come down on sessions, and refreshers people got for trying so hard they got labeled "super seedling".

The truth is, you were forced to wedge yourself in a tight little box of expectations and requirements others had for you. If you deviated from said expectations adn requirements even just a little you were in big trouble.

Now to some that may have just been a blast, to be manipulated into being a person others thought you should be. To others it was damn cohersive and suffocating and felt like being in an orwellian prison.

The fact that the seed was a destructive mind cult  doesnt change with glowing testimonies. As an example,  There are people  who just loved being in the moonie cult and would tell you that before they joined they were wasting their lives drinking and smoking dope and they found direction and meaning there and straightened out their lives. They may even point to their wonderfull family and college degree they have as proof of the power of said affilition. Testimonials to me are almost meaningless because every group including the KKK, the american Nazi party, right down to your local AA branch will have people ranting and raving about how much they love it.

You can try all day to make a chicken sandwich out of chicken shit, but in the end you still have a chicken shit sandwich.
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« Reply #70 on: October 14, 2004, 02:18:00 PM »
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I'm sorry that you have a problem with someone that sounds sucessful.


Now what in the world would lead you to believe that?  I commented she was probably just like everyone else..certainly that denotes no problem.

Are you under the impression that disagreeing with someone automatically denotes a problem?

Where on earth would you learn such a concept?

...oh wait...I remember now! :grin:
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« Reply #71 on: October 14, 2004, 02:38:00 PM »
Greg-you sound like you need to eat a "chicken shit sandwich" :grin:
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« Reply #72 on: October 14, 2004, 02:41:00 PM »
Seriously - You can be quite the wise ass.
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« Reply #73 on: October 14, 2004, 03:23:00 PM »
Everything I learned in the Seed were positive life affirming lessons, I am  grateful for the Seed   for giving me these gifts at  an early age.  It is so great to hear from people who remember  the Seed for  the great work they did.  Art  and all the staff  were heros, working endless hours to help us get through some rough times.
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« Reply #74 on: October 15, 2004, 03:12:00 PM »
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"Seriously - You can be quite the wise ass."


Thanks for stepping the conversation up a notch.

Seriously you need to improve your communication skills with others.
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